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[wickedwizzard01]

Hugo Santos wrote...

About Mass Effect 3 and the Extend Cut DLC, I only have two thing's to say.

1:-»I will never buy that game;

2:-»I will pretend that Mass Effect series end in the Mass Effect 2.

Bioware made many mistakes in this game in many aspect's. In the youtube we have a lot of videos showing that mistakes. - for this problem I only see two solution's: Create a DLC correcting all the mistakes made, or launch a Mass Effect 4 very soon to correct that mistakes and give us a reason to buy Mass Effect 3.

Sorry to hear but have you seen all the mistakes they made in ME2 also on YouTube?
Its almost as much and as such you get a verry one sided vieuw
But you also miss out on all the great stuff in me3

But then again you are allowed your opinion

[wickedwizzard01]

Oops double post

Modifié par wickedwizzard01, 28 juin 2012 - 04:21 .

[AlanC9]

ME1 had plenty of mistakes too, though I can't remember anyone doing a video of them.

Modifié par AlanC9, 28 juin 2012 - 04:20 .

[wickedwizzard01]

AlanC9 wrote...

ME1 had plenty of mistakes too, though I can't remember anyone doing a video of them.

Damn guess I have to go and post a bunch of them on you tube lol:D

[wickedwizzard01]

Good thing nobody has noticed all the flaws, glitches, inconsistencies in
Dragonfs Dogma yet otherwise YouTube servers might meltdown
But it's soo much fun

[Sarah Knight]

Soulßane wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Soulßane wrote...

Thank you so much for this fantastic DLC BioWare! Ever since I first played KOTOR and Mass Effect 1 you guys have become my absolute favorite game developer and probably will forever be. As RPG's have always been my favorite genre of the gaming industry, no one has succeeded in delivering complete, immersive, living breathing entertainment the way you guys do. Be proud of the work you all put out every single day, because there isn't any other developer out there in the world to me that does better. Thank you for restoring the Mass Effect series and officially completing the story of Commander Shepard.

THE DLC WAS EXCELLENT!!! 

Now all that's left to be answered is the release date for Mass Effect 4 

Besthda did a good Job With Skyrim to   Waiting to get my  hands on dawnguard  hehe   but yes i do agree with you on the endings i was okay with  what they did but they added a few things that i knew was missing but the thing  that Leaves my  only question un answered "is the destroy ending when you   Live" unsure of if a Passing Alliance or other vessel picks Shepard up and Reunites with   their LI  mine ofc was Liara in one file   Garrus in my other 
probs gonna do one for Tali  one for Jack  maybe ash to   i had one for ash but for some reason my old XB  died on me >_<

As much as people say Bethesda is amazing, Skyrim and the Elder Scrolls series are amazing, etc; I have never liked them that much. I understand the idea of exploring the world and being multiple classes at once but those games never pulled me into it. They didn't have completely 3-dimensional characters and stories that rival cinema and novels the way BioWare's games do for me. Plus, I'm more of a linear fan rather than "pick your path every second"...unless we're walking about something like a Rockstar Games game like Red Dead Redemption (that was a masterpiece). Basically, no one beats BioWare in terms of RPG's for me, lol. That's just my opinion.

True i'm the same way  but i do like to expand in my RPG area  "which is most played by my standards at home"

how ever i do play first person shooters and 3rd person  as well Morely  Tom Clancy's rainbow six "grew up around it so i gave it leeway after ubisofts failure at ghost recon future soldier"
but yes  Mass effect and Biowares  View despite the rep that  i have with them "DA2" "hurt me deeply FYI"  because they Removed  the character classes Dalish elfs dwarfs humans etc .

Sure i understand it was supposed to  explain hawkes  Lineage and what not and  Kirkwall  but  i honestly  would of rather been a human  version of an Elf at best  but yea they hurt me deeply removing that entirely on top of it feeling a bit "unsettling and unfinished"  the Game ended to early Even  with the extra DLC

[greggm2000]

seeker1776 wrote...

btw guys easy trick how to see all endings ingame, is when u finish the game, there s still autosave where u re near portal to Citadel, and from that point u only have to shoot husks and marauder, or just marauder when u lower difficulty,and then just walk throught citadel and have dialogues with illusive man

There's an easier way. Just grab the Autosave and rename it to a new savefile name right at the point where you're standing there, about to walk forward and make the decision. That's what I did, after playing through my preferred choice.

[greggm2000]

Raven712400 wrote...

Anglamite wrote...

Raven712400 wrote...

Anglamite wrote...

wickedwizzard01 wrote...

I noticed my LI NOT putting Sheps name on the memorial wall
Guess ther is still something related in the pipelines
Rescue mission??? Or do we have to wait until Me4
To see its conclusion if at all

My LI also didn't put Shep's name on the wall. She wasn't there (Miranda). However, Traynor also did not put my name on the wall, and she's a lesbian, so I think it has more to do with the Control ending than the LI angle.

I have just completed the extended cut by choosing synthysis using a character from a ME1 -> ME2 -> ME3 import with all the DLCs and Liara ended up putting my name plate on the memorial wall just above Anderson's

Which ending did you choose? I noticed in the Synthesis and Control endings the plaque gets put up by someone. In the Destroy option, the screen fades away. It's like they hope you may still be alive, though are positive you are dead in the other two endings. Synthesis makes sense they'd know since your energy was dispersed across the galaxy; you are part of them now. But they'd have no reason to believe differently (from the Destroy choice) in Control..

I think it all has to do with the entire ME trilogy, I have saved the Racni, saved Wrex, completed ME2 with everyone's loyalty including completing all the dlc's,blowed up the collector base, in ME3 I cured the genophage, saved Eve, made peace between the  Geth and the Quarians, saved the Racni queen from the Reapers, did not accept Dalatrass' offer, total Galatic troops at 6200, romanced Liara in all 3 games, always chosing Paragon options. I only did the Synthesis ending, going to do the Control and Destroy later, but Liara did put my name on the wall

If you have sufficiently high EMS (3100+) to get the teaser scene, and you pick the destroy ending, your LI does not place the plaque. Otherwise, she does. As to paragon vs. renegade, I've only played Paragon, so I can't vouch for that bit one way or another.

[Sarah Knight]

falconlord5 wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

falconlord5 wrote...
No. The Catalyst thinks that organics and synthetics are violently opposed, and will destroy each other. Hence his deeply flawed solution.

This.

I always thought that bad guys were supposed to be basing their actions on bad ideas and bad values; isn't that what makes them, you know, bad? How did this suddenly become a problem with the ME universe?

Actually if you Listen Carefully  and picture  Soveriegn   Harbinger and that Reaper on Rannoch   how they talked and put it on the catalyst and the fact that "he said that they  Tried to do  the same thing before but it failed"   how would the catalyst know this when all known   information was  Destroyed? 

only outcome is that its Harbinger  basically saying F U   i'm going to kill you if you choose the wrong choice basically..  i knew  before the EC  when i did the refusal  bam was that  point proven to me.

Not all info was destroyed. That's the point: it got preserved in Reaper form.

Thats my point  The only way that the Catalyst would know is if it was one of the Reapers you can tell when you refuse he says "So be it" and all life that we fought for dies  and Liara's little memory box with all that data saved the next cycle from this problem  that we lost on.

but the kicker is the Catalyst uses  "harbingers voice"    The oldest of the Reapers as its stated in the codex

[falconlord5]

Sarah Knight wrote...

falconlord5 wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

falconlord5 wrote...
No. The Catalyst thinks that organics and synthetics are violently opposed, and will destroy each other. Hence his deeply flawed solution.

This.

I always thought that bad guys were supposed to be basing their actions on bad ideas and bad values; isn't that what makes them, you know, bad? How did this suddenly become a problem with the ME universe?

Actually if you Listen Carefully  and picture  Soveriegn   Harbinger and that Reaper on Rannoch   how they talked and put it on the catalyst and the fact that "he said that they  Tried to do  the same thing before but it failed"   how would the catalyst know this when all known   information was  Destroyed? 

only outcome is that its Harbinger  basically saying F U   i'm going to kill you if you choose the wrong choice basically..  i knew  before the EC  when i did the refusal  bam was that  point proven to me.

Not all info was destroyed. That's the point: it got preserved in Reaper form.

Thats my point  The only way that the Catalyst would know is if it was one of the Reapers you can tell when you refuse he says "So be it" and all life that we fought for dies  and Liara's little memory box with all that data saved the next cycle from this problem  that we lost on.

but the kicker is the Catalyst uses  "harbingers voice"    The oldest of the Reapers as its stated in the codex

Well, seeing as the Catalyst is the collective intelligence of the Reapers, I'm gonna assume that it knows what they know.

[greggm2000]

Anglamite wrote...

EC DLC still doesn't address why Sovereign needed to stay within the galaxy to keep an eye out for space-faring civilization (Catalyst should have known; the Citadel is part of it) or why the keepers needed to send out the signal for the Reapers to return (Citadel is part of the catalyst; the Catalyst could have done it).
Mass Effect 1's events occur because the Protheans changed how the keepers worked. If the Catalyst is what ME3 would have us believe, the Protheans' actions should have made no difference. The Catalyst being, in part, the Citadel nullifies anything done to the keepers. It's an AI that controls the Reapers directly, thereby rendering the keepers and the signal moot.

The ending was, and still is, bad writing. Adding Miracle Whip to a turd sandwich does not a Rueben make.

It's got flaws of course. Those who wanted IT to be true or wanted a very different ending are still not going to be happy... very understandably. I sympathize. And I'm still pretty displeased with the PR face they've put on the ending in the past and the present (= ME3EC interview).... but give credit where credit is due: the EC, for all its flaws, is still a major improvement over what we had before. It's got strong emotional impact. It's good enough that I can say "Thanks Bioware" and mean it, even if I, too, wished that IT was true.

And I look forward to any possible forthcoming post-ending DLC or a post-ending ME4.

[wickedwizzard01]

Sarah Knight wrote...

falconlord5 wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

falconlord5 wrote...
No. The Catalyst thinks that organics and synthetics are violently opposed, and will destroy each other. Hence his deeply flawed solution.

This.

I always thought that bad guys were supposed to be basing their actions on bad ideas and bad values; isn't that what makes them, you know, bad? How did this suddenly become a problem with the ME universe?

Yes noticed all that an so my conclusion was Destroy is the only option to get rid
Of the reapers Once and for all




Actually if you Listen Carefully  and picture  Soveriegn   Harbinger and that Reaper on Rannoch   how they talked and put it on the catalyst and the fact that "he said that they  Tried to do  the same thing before but it failed"   how would the catalyst know this when all known   information was  Destroyed? 

only outcome is that its Harbinger  basically saying F U   i'm going to kill you if you choose the wrong choice basically..  i knew  before the EC  when i did the refusal  bam was that  point proven to me.

Not all info was destroyed. That's the point: it got preserved in Reaper form.

Thats my point  The only way that the Catalyst would know is if it was one of the Reapers you can tell when you refuse he says "So be it" and all life that we fought for dies  and Liara's little memory box with all that data saved the next cycle from this problem  that we lost on.

but the kicker is the Catalyst uses  "harbingers voice"    The oldest of the Reapers as its stated in the codex

[Armymedic75]

AlanC9 wrote...

Armymedic75 wrote...

 But to me and many others this was just yet another slap in the face by bioware and another round of false advertising.

What was false about the advertising? Bio repeatedly said they weren't changing the endings, and they didn't. (Refusal isn't a new ending; in the original game you could refrain from using the Crucible, which led to the same result.)

The claim that they listened to the fans is false

[falconlord5]

Armymedic75 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Armymedic75 wrote...

 But to me and many others this was just yet another slap in the face by bioware and another round of false advertising.

What was false about the advertising? Bio repeatedly said they weren't changing the endings, and they didn't. (Refusal isn't a new ending; in the original game you could refrain from using the Crucible, which led to the same result.)

The claim that they listened to the fans is false

And you, of course, can speak for all the fans? You can say that every fan feels that they were not listened to?

Somehow, I don't think so.

[AlanC9]

Well, if listening to the fans = doing exactly what a particular subgroup of the fans wanted, then I suppose he's right.

[Drewton]

Is there no way to play the EC on first playthrough?

[tymtraveller]

I say "thank you" to BioWare for answering to the fans.  I believe you guys addressed most issues in good faith and definitely listened to the fans who maybe aren't game designers or producers, but who quite obviously were emotionally invested in this fine series (yours truly included).  Sure there are still some details to quibble about, and I will forever be a fan of Indoctrination Theory, but nevertheless, I left the game after the extended ending with a bittersweet feeling, and closure, which I believe was the intention of the designers and writers all along.  Thank you for putting in the extra time, effort, and thought.

Modifié par tymtraveller, 28 juin 2012 - 07:06 .

[augmented shephard]

AlanC9 wrote...

Armymedic75 wrote...

 But to me and many others this was just yet another slap in the face by bioware and another round of false advertising.

What was false about the advertising? Bio repeatedly said they weren't changing the endings, and they didn't. (Refusal isn't a new ending; in the original game you could refrain from using the Crucible, which led to the same result.)

Refusal was not an option in the original game. 

[augmented shephard]

Armymedic75 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Armymedic75 wrote...

 But to me and many others this was just yet another slap in the face by bioware and another round of false advertising.

What was false about the advertising? Bio repeatedly said they weren't changing the endings, and they didn't. (Refusal isn't a new ending; in the original game you could refrain from using the Crucible, which led to the same result.)

The claim that they listened to the fans is false

I actually thought that it was like going through a huge checklist of everything that the fans wanted. (Obviously apart from the one's that said the whole ending should be changed.)

[augmented shephard]

Hugo Santos wrote...

About Mass Effect 3 and the Extend Cut DLC, I only have two thing's to say.

1:-»I will never buy that game;

2:-»I will pretend that Mass Effect series end in the Mass Effect 2.

Bioware made many mistakes in this game in many aspect's. In the youtube we have a lot of videos showing that mistakes. - for this problem I only see two solution's: Create a DLC correcting all the mistakes made, or launch a Mass Effect 4 very soon to correct that mistakes and give us a reason to buy Mass Effect 3.

If you want to miss out on a fantastic game then that is your choice. How about you actually play the game before forming an opinion on it.

[Armymedic75]

falconlord5 wrote...

Armymedic75 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Armymedic75 wrote...

 But to me and many others this was just yet another slap in the face by bioware and another round of false advertising.

What was false about the advertising? Bio repeatedly said they weren't changing the endings, and they didn't. (Refusal isn't a new ending; in the original game you could refrain from using the Crucible, which led to the same result.)

The claim that they listened to the fans is false

And you, of course, can speak for all the fans? You can say that every fan feels that they were not listened to?

Somehow, I don't think so.

Did I say every fan? no but if that was what was implied I apologize. However the majority of problems that fans have mentioned were not addressed 

[augmented shephard]

This is a nice playlist of different EC variables:
http://www.youtube.c...AF&feature=plcp

[falconlord5]

Armymedic75 wrote...

falconlord5 wrote...

Armymedic75 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Armymedic75 wrote...

 But to me and many others this was just yet another slap in the face by bioware and another round of false advertising.

What was false about the advertising? Bio repeatedly said they weren't changing the endings, and they didn't. (Refusal isn't a new ending; in the original game you could refrain from using the Crucible, which led to the same result.)

The claim that they listened to the fans is false

And you, of course, can speak for all the fans? You can say that every fan feels that they were not listened to?

Somehow, I don't think so.

Did I say every fan? no but if that was what was implied I apologize. However the majority of problems that fans have mentioned were not addressed 

Ah. I understand. You're one of those people, who think 'listens to' means 'do it exactly as we say'. Which we were told upfront wasn't gonna happen, seeing as at least some of the demands required a complete revision of the ending (i.e. no Catalyst).

And again, do you speak for every fan? Many on these forums seem to think otherwise, that their concerns were indeed adressed.

[greggm2000]

Drewton wrote...

Is there no way to play the EC on first playthrough?

Sure you can. If you have the EC installed, it'll use it.

Do buy and install "From Ashes" DLC as well, if you haven't already.

Modifié par greggm2000, 28 juin 2012 - 07:56 .

[Armymedic75]

"Ah. I understand. You're one of those people, who think 'listens to' means 'do it exactly as we say'. Which we were told upfront wasn't gonna happen, seeing as at least some of the demands required a complete revision of the ending (i.e. no Catalyst).

And again, do you speak for every fan? Many on these forums seem to think otherwise, that their concerns were indeed adressed"

No that was not what I was saying. What im saying is that they needed to stay true to the established lore that was developed in the first two games. My own personal opinion is that the game could have ended when Anderson and Shep were bleeding out looking out over earth, and it would have made more sense than what we got. So in other words you are saying that Bioware has the right to give us a crappy ending as long as it fulfills their "artistic vision". Do I as a consumer not have a right to expect a decent product for my money? I dont care about the IT I dont care about reuniting wirh my LI what I do care about is an ending that actually fits with established lore.