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[F00lishG]

Oh and guys? Try not to complain as much after, mmkay?

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Reth Shepherd wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

warrior256 wrote...

I'll be honest, I am looking towards the EC with more dread then optimism. I highly doubt that my view on the ending will change, but I am open minded enough to admit I could be wrong. Oh well, here's hoping that the EC somehow manages to solve most of our problems.
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As an addition to what I said, my main reason for doubting the quality of the EC is because Bioware still refuses to change the endings and the podcast makes me think that they do not understand what our problems with the endings are. It's hard to have faith with the odds stacked against this being good.

I agree completely with everything you said.(decided to merge everything into one quote to save space )

Its good to know that Bioware is fixing some problems though, such as clarifying the current ending or the EMS rating.
But the thing I am most confused about is why they outright refuse to add new(different) endings. I mean it would win back a very, VERY good part of the community and help them in the long run, financially and otherwise. 

Anyways, lets wait and see what the EC has to offer....maybe our hopes lie somewhere in that 1.9 GB. 

To the bolded, I have no idea. Even if hurt egos were involved, one would think that SOMEONE would at some point have sat down with a return on investment chart. Do they really believe that "clarity" and "closure" will win us back? In spite of everything that's been said and done over the past three months?

Exactly, I find it a little unbelievable they wouldnt think about doing some new endings, the pros outweigh the cons by a mile. Especially if its just the risk of being ridiculed over something like "artistic integrity"....I mean it does it really, truly matter at the end of the day? No thats stupid lmao, I cant see it damaging them as much as the alternative of no new endings. Not to mention the amount of ppl who'll thank them for unleashing the rest of that integrity anyways.  

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 23 juin 2012 - 02:34 .

[EG NeoMorph]

*inserts game disc*
*waits for ME3 to load while excitedly waiting for the EC*
*wonders why the Earth is still stuck in a black hole*


I think that the Extended Cut sounds like it is just extra cutcscenes with no gameplay... As someone else has said, Dawnguard is out at the same time... Skyrim gameplay vs ME3 extra cuscenes = MEGA WIN FOR SKYRIM.

[incinerator950]

Reth Shepherd wrote...

ElementalFiend wrote...

You guys are being really good sports for doing the Extended Cut. Personally I think all the whining about the ending was bull****. Of course I want more Mass Effect but the ending seemed like a proper one to me.

Either way, I look forward to the new content and I hope the public at large puts on their big girl panties this time.

I certainly plan to! I'm going to put them on, start the loooooooong process of getting a refund, and join in the EA/Bioware boycott. On the plus side, the past three months have made me appreciate Blizzard so much more! <3

Bigger plus side, the EC date is the same release date as the 360 date of Dawnguard for Skyrim.  

[Lurchibald]

AlanC9 wrote...

Manton-X2 wrote...
I don't know about all that.  The "reaction" began a few days after the release when the hardcore guys finished it.  Using Xbox360 sales numbers:

By the second week, their sales numbers were down 80%.  By the third week, the "reaction" was everywhere and the sales were down another 50% of what it had been the second week.  By the fourth week, some stores were offering deep discounts on the game.

Sure, but this isn't too different from ME2, which had declines of 72% in week 2 and 43% in week 3, as opposed to ME3's 79% and 51%. And in weeks 4-9 ME2 sales declined faster than ME3 sales did. After 10 weeks, which takes us up to May 12 for ME3, the ratio of week 1 sales to total sales was pretty much identical for both games --59.1% for ME2, 59.3% for ME3.

I'm not saying there isn't a problem, but these numbers don't show one.

To be fair ME2 didn't drop drastically in price between weeks 4-9 unlike ME3.

[Firewolf99]

Will probably be seeing what the reaction to the DLC is before I buy it. No offence, Bioware, but if it doesn't fix the MASSIVE plot-holes you left in the original endings, Then I'm not going to "fix" my game with a 1.9 GB download. Despite the awe-inspiring amount of content that implies (I'm pretty sure that's more than FF7 and FF8 combined).

[NOD-INFORMER37]

F00lishG wrote...

Oh and guys? Try not to complain as much after, mmkay?

That all depends on whether or not the EC will fix things.

[incinerator950]

Man, I will die laughing if the EC is just like the Evangelion movie that barely changed anything from the final episode.

[Digitalis32]

Simply Awesome!

[NOD-INFORMER37]

magnetite wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...
That all depends on whether or not the EC will fix things.

I think there's something in that podcast that mentions they can't make everyone happy, but if they can make most people happy, I'd say that's a win for them.

I agree, but its still pretty damn confusing why they neglect the idea of new endings completely, it was one of the main complaints.

Heres hoping the EC will make most ppl happy, but idk man....

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 23 juin 2012 - 02:56 .

[Kyerea]

Is the ME: Earth multiplayer dlc also being packaged with the Extended Cut? 'Cause honestly, that's all I care about.

[incinerator950]

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

magnetite wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...
That all depends on whether or not the EC will fix things.

I think there's something in that podcast that mentions they can't make everyone happy, but if they can make most people happy, I'd say that's a win for them.

I agree, but its still pretty damn confusing why they neglect the idea of new endings completely, it was one of the main complaints.

Heres hoping the EC will make most ppl happy, but idk man....

With all the complaints, it should be obvious Bioware did not want to make a replacement ending. 

[mcsupersport]

Looks like Skyrim keeps my playing time and ME gets uninstalled.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

incinerator950 wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

magnetite wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...
That all depends on whether or not the EC will fix things.

I think there's something in that podcast that mentions they can't make everyone happy, but if they can make most people happy, I'd say that's a win for them.

I agree, but its still pretty damn confusing why they neglect the idea of new endings completely, it was one of the main complaints.

Heres hoping the EC will make most ppl happy, but idk man....

With all the complaints, it should be obvious Bioware did not want to make a replacement ending. 

I know, but its WHY they dont that makes no sense. 

[ShadowAussie]

Excuses Excuses Excuses lets see a seak preview of a default ending extended version with the extra dlcs you promise. I Traded-In my crappy collectors editon and rather happy about it but didn't get the money I spent on it since I couldn't return it to my local game shop because it had to be sealed which flamed me. I was unhappy with the collectors edition since I purchase the ps3 Australian version and it was horrible it wasnt package as I'd hope like the american collectors and guess what the steelbook is a G1 most good collectors on all platforms usally has a bluray steelbook I think thats kinda of Cheap and disrespectful.

I find this extended ending pointless since there isn't going to be a Harbinger battle. 2 reaper battle are not enough. without a final battle its merely a waste of time making this. in all the mass effect games such as mass effect 1 you fight saren as the final boss, on mass effect 2 you fight the reaper human now mass effect 3 unfinshed with some extended ending that will show a cut of all the reapers dieing. hmp. <_<

Modifié par ShadowAussie, 23 juin 2012 - 03:14 .

[zapphoman24]

Heck yes!!! This just made my day. Four days until this website blows up...for better or for worst.

[Kyerea]

incinerator950 wrote...

Reth Shepherd wrote...

ElementalFiend wrote...

You guys are being really good sports for doing the Extended Cut. Personally I think all the whining about the ending was bull****. Of course I want more Mass Effect but the ending seemed like a proper one to me.

Either way, I look forward to the new content and I hope the public at large puts on their big girl panties this time.

I certainly plan to! I'm going to put them on, start the loooooooong process of getting a refund, and join in the EA/Bioware boycott. On the plus side, the past three months have made me appreciate Blizzard so much more! <3

Bigger plus side, the EC date is the same release date as the 360 date of Dawnguard for Skyrim.  

Dapper Astartes approves.

[Manton-X2]

AlanC9 wrote...

Manton-X2 wrote...
I don't know about all that.  The "reaction" began a few days after the release when the hardcore guys finished it.  Using Xbox360 sales numbers:

By the second week, their sales numbers were down 80%.  By the third week, the "reaction" was everywhere and the sales were down another 50% of what it had been the second week.  By the fourth week, some stores were offering deep discounts on the game.

Sure, but this isn't too different from ME2, which had declines of 72% in week 2 and 43% in week 3, as opposed to ME3's 79% and 51%. And in weeks 4-9 ME2 sales declined faster than ME3 sales did. After 10 weeks, which takes us up to May 12 for ME3, the ratio of week 1 sales to total sales was pretty much identical for both games --59.1% for ME2, 59.3% for ME3.

I'm not saying there isn't a problem, but these numbers don't show one.

I agree .. the numbers look similar, but there was also the price drop that was occuring.  By the 3rd-4th week, you could get the game for $25-$35 at some retailers.  With ME2, I bought my son a copy of the game about 6 or 7 weeks after it released and it cost the same as the one I picked up the day it opened.

Don't get me wrong ... they did not lose money ... they made a crap ton.  But I think that with a good ending and none of the bad publicity (especially when Forbes and other reputable news outlets started to see the merit of the complaints) it could have been epic. 

And we have yet to see what their DLC sales will do.  Until this point, I have bought every ME DLC since the first game came out.  I didn't buy "From Ashes" and I have no plan to purchase it or any others unless something extraordinary happens (and I don't think it will).

For me, they basically turned one of the greatest games I'd ever played into a throwaway multiplayer game that I play at night to blow off some steam for about 30-60 mins before bed.  That's sad.

[ShadowAussie]

magnetite wrote...

I think it has something to do with who owns the game. By compromising with us and keeping with their vision as well as mixing in some constructive fan input then it's a good balance of ideas for this DLC.

However, there was a small group who wanted the entire ending, let alone the entire game redone. Saying that, it kind of makes them feel this is strictly the fans game instead of the people who did all the hard work of creating all this content and such for the fans.

By striking a balance between the creator's desires and the fans' then you have a good formula for this Extended Cut.

small group or more like a large group possible people all across the world that were not happy but cant do much but call EA but instead waiting there money calling. to bad huh I wont even want to play this game. hope dragon age 3 doesnt fall in the same direction

[AlanC9]

BrotherWarth wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

And no, the Stargazer scene didn't prove anything of the sort. It proves that one planet didn't have functioning relays or a functional QEC. It said nothing at all about any other planets in the galaxy.

Nonsense. Why would entire systems be left out of a rebuilding effort?

For the same reason nobody visited Ilos before the Mu Relay was rediscovered. Any rebuilding effort is only going to cross the galaxy at the speed of ships, unless you're linking to a system that still has a QEC. Colonizing the whole galaxy is going to take a while, since ME universe ships aren't very much better than Star Trek ships.

[incinerator950]

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

magnetite wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...
That all depends on whether or not the EC will fix things.

I think there's something in that podcast that mentions they can't make everyone happy, but if they can make most people happy, I'd say that's a win for them.

I agree, but its still pretty damn confusing why they neglect the idea of new endings completely, it was one of the main complaints.

Heres hoping the EC will make most ppl happy, but idk man....

With all the complaints, it should be obvious Bioware did not want to make a replacement ending. 

I know, but its WHY they dont that makes no sense. 

It makes perfect sense.  You don't need a story to justify No.

[SeeNoEvilHearNoEvil]

Sensational!

i just did an insanity walktrough of ME1-3 to take down waiting time and am pretty much at the point to attack the Cerberus base... what a start for summer! Thanks dudes!