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[the_devils_aid]

Sidney wrote...

the_devils_aid wrote...
They blow up in each video, you cant tell me that they dont. when the asteroid hits a Mass Relay, the break causes a mass release in energy. When the beam hits the first one, we see it begin to break up. we can make the logical assumption that if a asteroid impact does not trigger some sort of fail safe to turn the thing off, a massive energy burst would also not trigger a fail safe, and when the Mass Relay began to break up, it would detonate

Yes..now watch them again. Ntoice that in Arrival an asteroid hits a functioning relay - full of nice juicy energy.

Now at the end of ME3, the crucicle causes the relays to fire of their energy in that beam. The loss of power basically causes the relay to collapse.

Again, a full charaged working relay blows up = huge boom. A Spent relay implodes <> big boom. How hard is it to see that? The Codex can only tell us what we know and at the tije of arrival the assumption was, by all known means, destorying a relay was very, very bad but obviously no one knew about a crucible style power release.

alright, then explain to me why the shockwave looks exactly like the one we see on the galaxy map after arival, just in a different color?

that, the relay does not "implode". that would suggest it collapses in on itself, and it most certainly does not. the peices are flowing outwards.

either way. the EC is suppose to explain we we are not in a galatic darkage, so lets see what space magic they come up with to circumvent physics.

[RebelGeth963]

RukiaKuchki wrote...

the_devils_aid wrote...

Artistic integrity can only be held if the art is hated because of the times, like a black person working with whites in the 1700's, but it holds true to the artists ideals. it cannot be held when a major shift is witnessed from one peice to the next, such as all of ME3 upto the citadel, and everything that happens on said citadel. if anything else, this major shift indicates a change in the artists direction, thus a shift from his previous integrity, and is thus subject to his audience. if the audience doesnt like the shift, the artist has two choices. the artist can ignore the audience and look for a new one, or the audience can admit the problem and retcon the offending project or insure further work stays true to the original integrity.  Bioware, i hope follows the latter, and while i do not expect a retcon, i do hope fursther projects stay true to the bioware i knew the first time i played KOTOR, Dragon Age 1, and ME1 and 2, and most of 3 for that matter.

Do you actually understand what the term 'artistic integrity' means? From your meandering post, I'm going to presume not.

Reposted from one of my ME Wiki posts:


Casey Hudson has about as much artistic integrity as the actor in the following example:
DIRECTOR: You seem a lot more insulted by this material than you should be.
ACTOR: I'm a vibrant artiste surrounded by Philistines.
DIRECTOR: Really, because I've looked at your resume, and I'm not seeing any esteemed productions with prestigious luminaries. Do you even know who Terrence Malick is?
ACTOR: You're a tyrant comparable to Napoleon.
DIRECTOR: You can share with us what makes you too good for this production, or you can swallow your pride and do your damn job. Your call.

[the_devils_aid]

Biobetasucks wrote...

While I appreciate the attempt to address the playing community, I admit to at best cautious optimism.

Quoting the devs and producers is of questionable value since it had been addressed in multiple articles how the previous ending sequence did not appear to match the aforementioned quoted promises by the same.

Still keeping my fingers crossed for this one

im at most expection some additional space fight scenes as we move through earth, with an epilouge explaining how the relays were actually just turned off and that the fleets have FFTL so they can get home inside thier lifetimes.

[hood815]

Anyone know the uk time for origin?

[AlanC9]

the_devils_aid wrote...
They blow up in each video, you cant tell me that they dont. when the asteroid hits a Mass Relay, the break causes a mass release in energy. When the beam hits the first one, we see it begin to break up. we can make the logical assumption that if a asteroid impact does not trigger some sort of fail safe to turn the thing off, a massive energy burst would also not trigger a fail safe, and when the Mass Relay began to break up, it would detonate

Except, of course, that the beam is causing the relays to do something rather than merely blowing them up. Something very precise and controlled.

And again, we see that planets aren't being destroyed. Or rather, the only two planets we see are not destroyed. I suppose that you can still have your planets-destroyed theory if you add some space magic to it to protect those two planets. But since we all know that the theory is wrong, why bother?

Modifié par AlanC9, 25 juin 2012 - 10:59 .

[Valtauran]

masjex wrote...

Cautiously: Nice that its soon but will wait and see it to judge its merits.

Dude, its bloody FREE. lol

Anything free is always good. lol

All i am really hoping for at the very least is some understanding, how it all turned out for your crew, for you, did you settle down with your love interest, did you have any kids (naturally or adopting, depending on if you went with the lesbian or gay romances).

Modifié par Valtauran, 25 juin 2012 - 11:00 .

[AlanC9]

Carlina wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Sidney wrote...

Carlina wrote...

We know (from Arrival) that blowing a Mass Relay up likely results in destruction of the system in which it resides, so that will cause many planets to be vapourised instantly.

We know that smashing an asteroid into one causes it to detonate. We do not know that having it discharge energy to destroy/control reapers causes it to blow up. Actually, we do know since we see them not blowing up.

This. Ye gods, Carlina -- if the planets are blown up then what's Joker standing on in the last scene?

You need to read things PROPERLY, I said likely and "maybe" not DEFINITELY and ALL planets are destroyed.  

Right. So somehow the supernova-level energy release doesn't blow up the system? How is that possible? It's your theory -- give it a shot.

[Valtauran]

AlanC9 wrote...

Carlina wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Sidney wrote...

Carlina wrote...

We know (from Arrival) that blowing a Mass Relay up likely results in destruction of the system in which it resides, so that will cause many planets to be vapourised instantly.

We know that smashing an asteroid into one causes it to detonate. We do not know that having it discharge energy to destroy/control reapers causes it to blow up. Actually, we do know since we see them not blowing up.

This. Ye gods, Carlina -- if the planets are blown up then what's Joker standing on in the last scene?

You need to read things PROPERLY, I said likely and "maybe" not DEFINITELY and ALL planets are destroyed.  

Right. So somehow the supernova-level energy release doesn't blow up the system? How is that possible? It's your theory -- give it a shot.

It was likely a special type of explosion, that wipes out technology or a certain type of technology, most likely reaper technology or AI tech in general.

[MANINTHECREEK]

Does anyone know if the EC will still allow you to see whatever previous ending you would have seen before the EC. I'd assume it would play-out the EC content following the previous ending.?

[G1MEE50K]

Honestly wont change much. I guess people forgot about the huge amount of lies told about how your decisions in the previous 2 games made a huge difference in the games ending.

[Valtauran]

G1MEE50K wrote...

Honestly wont change much. I guess people forgot about the huge amount of lies told about how your decisions in the previous 2 games made a huge difference in the games ending.

Well, they promised alot of things in swtor as well, but they never happend, so i am used to it from them, as long as their stories leading up to the ending is perfect, i am happy, but i just hope this EC gives some closure.

[Robert Cousland]

UK here, EC is not available from midnight.

[Valtauran]

Broxert wrote...

UK here, EC is not available from midnight.

I noticed that, such a pity, its not like it needs packaging or anything, but it seems like they should have said, on the 26th, when we decide it is the 26th. lol

[AlanC9]

Valtauran wrote...
It was likely a special type of explosion, that wipes out technology or a certain type of technology, most likely reaper technology or AI tech in general.

OK. I just don't see how people can figure that the explosion is simultanously controlled enough to hit only particular kinds of device, and yet so uncontrolled that it destroys whole systems.

[LostInReverie19]

We'll see....

[rz02k9]

i can really see the EC backfiring big time i just cant see it fixing the ending. hope it comes to a point where they have to change the ending but that day will never come.

[Valtauran]

rz02k9 wrote...

i can really see the EC backfiring big time i just cant see it fixing the ending. hope it comes to a point where they have to change the ending but that day will never come.

You didn't listen to the podcast did you?

The ending is not being changed, they are adding to it, so that you get some closure and i hope that they do one of those things that show how everyone turned out.

I mean, did Wrex (assuming he survived for you guys) keep his word about the Krogan being more peaceful in their colonization efforts? Did thery infact really recover from the Genophage after the cure?

Stuff like that is what i want to know.

[OneMore1968]

The energy sent to the Reapers' once you make your choice is likely some kind of EMP similar to that used on the Geth ship during Legion's Loyalty Mission or at the end of ME2 when you save the Collector Base.  Now as regards the relays.  If you listen to the kid at the end, his exact words are "Releasing the energy from the Crucible will end the cycle but it will also DESTROY the Mass Relays". 

You know that the vast majority of the known Galaxy's ships are inside the Sol system helping to defend Earth. So, do all those ships manage to get back through the one relay inside that system and back to their own before the relays are destroyed. Unlikely, so we assume they become trapped orbiting Earth. It is a technology that targets just the Reapers', you see that in the cutscene on Earth. Regardless of which choice is made, the Reapers' are no longer a threat. But it was the words from the Catalyst I was working on as proof of destruction.

Now please, can we drop the subject. The entire series was extremely enjoyable, even ME3 for about 90% of the game. Certain aspects did seem rushed but on the whole excellent game.  Let's just wait and see what the Extended Cut offers in the way of closure/explanations etc.

Modifié par Carlina, 26 juin 2012 - 12:07 .

[Valtauran]

Carlina wrote...

The energy sent to the Reapers' once you make your choice is likely some kind of EMP similar to that used on the Geth ship during Legion's Loyalty Mission or at the end of ME2 when you save the Collector Base.  Now as regards the relays.  If you listen to the kid at the end, his exact words are "Releasing the energy from the Crucible will end the cycle but it will also DESTROY the Mass Relays". 

You know that the vast majority of the known Galaxy's ships are inside the Sol system helping to defend Earth. So, do all those ships manage to get back through the one relay inside that system and back to their own before the relays are destroyed. Unlikely, so we assume they become trapped orbiting Earth. It is a technology that targets just the Reapers', you see that in the cutscene on Earth. Regardless of which choice is made, the Reapers' are no longer a threat. But it was the words from the Catalyst I was working on as proof of destruction.

Now please, can we drop the subject. The entire series was extremely enjoyable, even ME3 for about 90% of the game. Certain aspects did seem rushed but on the whole excellent game.  Let's just wait and see what the Extended Cut offers in the way of closure/explanations etc.

I agree with you, we need to drop it, but the fleets are not exactly stranded, the mass relays only allowed virtually instant space travel between systems, i am sure the drives themselves on the ships can travel faster then light, they can get home, just not as fast as going through the mass relays, but then again, did it say 'all reaper tech?' or just the mass relays? cause if its all reaper tech, then the ships should be wiped out as well, since their ship drives are based on prothean technology, which was based on reaper technology. lol

[rz02k9]

Valtauran wrote...

rz02k9 wrote...

i can really see the EC backfiring big time i just cant see it fixing the ending. hope it comes to a point where they have to change the ending but that day will never come.

You didn't listen to the podcast did you?

The ending is not being changed, they are adding to it, so that you get some closure and i hope that they do one of those things that show how everyone turned out.

I mean, did Wrex (assuming he survived for you guys) keep his word about the Krogan being more peaceful in their colonization efforts? Did thery infact really recover from the Genophage after the cure?

Stuff like that is what i want to know.

i now there not changing the ending im just saying i hope a day comes when thay do change the ending. but i know that day will never come.

[deuce985]

I'm kinda confused on the loading up the "Legend" save. I have it on PC. I look into my save files and see it. When I load the game up, it's not under my save games. However, I do have a save file right before I attack Cerberus Base. It's not the"Legend" save though, it's a normal save I didn't overwrite when I first went through the game...I'm confused on what the FAQ says...

What save game should I load to play the Extended Cut?

 [SPOILERS] After completing Mass Effect 3, a 'Legend' save is created prior to assaulting the Cerberus Base. To experience the Extended Cut DLC, load this save game and play through to the end of the game. The Extended Cut endings will differ depending on choices made throughout the Mass Effect series, so multiple playthroughs with a variety of different decisions will be required to experience the variety of possibilities offered by the new content.


Are they just talking about load the autosave up after you beat the game? Because it drops you back to the Normandy and I'm assuming right before Cerberus...

Modifié par deuce985, 26 juin 2012 - 12:23 .

[ManOfSteel]

deuce985 wrote...

I'm kinda confused on the loading up the "Legend" save. I have it on PC. I look into my save files and see it. When I load the game up, it's not under my save games. However, I do have a save file right before I attack Cerberus Base. It's not the"Legend" save though, it's a normal save I didn't overwrite when I first went through the game...I'm confused on what the FAQ says...

What save game should I load to play the Extended Cut?

 [SPOILERS] After completing Mass Effect 3, a 'Legend' save is created prior to assaulting the Cerberus Base. To experience the Extended Cut DLC, load this save game and play through to the end of the game. The Extended Cut endings will differ depending on choices made throughout the Mass Effect series, so multiple playthroughs with a variety of different decisions will be required to experience the variety of possibilities offered by the new content.


Are they just talking about load the autosave up after you beat the game? Because it drops you back to the Normandy and I'm assuming right before Cerberus...

Yeah, the legend save is the autosave the game generates just before the attack on Cerberus HQ.

[Robert Cousland]

Bioware says, artistic integrity.

I say, Diane Allers.

Checkmate Bioware.

[AlanC9]

Carlina wrote...

The energy sent to the Reapers' once you make your choice is likely some kind of EMP similar to that used on the Geth ship during Legion's Loyalty Mission or at the end of ME2 when you save the Collector Base.  Now as regards the relays.  If you listen to the kid at the end, his exact words are "Releasing the energy from the Crucible will end the cycle but it will also DESTROY the Mass Relays". 

You know that the vast majority of the known Galaxy's warships are inside the Sol system helping to defend Earth. So, do all those ships manage to get back through the one relay inside that system and back to their own before the relays are destroyed. Unlikely, so we assume they become trapped orbiting Earth. It is a technology that targets just the Reapers', you see that in the cutscene on Earth. Regardless of which choice is made, the Reapers' are no longer a threat. But it was the words from the Catalyst I was working on as proof of destruction.

Fixed. While most military vessels are in the Sol system, merchant ships wouldn't be there.

And nobody's saying that the realys weren't destroyed.

[SeeNoEvilHearNoEvil]

Broxert wrote...

Bioware says, artistic integrity.

I say, Diane Allers.

Checkmate Bioware.

Why did you have to say anything? *scratches head*