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[Mark of the Dragon]

So i read the faq about the extended cut and I have one question do I have to load the legacy save to experience the EC? or If I start a whole new playthrough of ME3 will I experience it at the end of the game? If you have to beat the game just to reload and replat the last three missions to get the better endings then that is absolutly stupid. I'm one of the few that actually believe in Bioware and the extended cut but if this is the case then it was poorly thought out. Anyway if anyne has any info it would be appreciated!

FYI: This is not a thread to complain about how bioware keeps messing up. I just would honestly like to know.

Iasked this on a thread earlier but the moderator shuut it down and said to come here :/

[prsquared]

Just saw the Destroy extended cut ending on youtube. Kinda liked it. Maybe because I got so used to the awful original ending. Doesn't change the storyline, but it does add some really emotional new scenes.

[Erghiez06]

saracen16 wrote...

cortes007 wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

Erghiez06 wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

Erghiez06 wrote...

...Yeah.. My advice, watch the endings, then sell your game. This Extended Cut is basically BioWare spitting in your face. I actually had high hopes for this.

No. The EC is BioWare giving you what you, the fans, wanted.

The fans wanted a sensible ending to begin with. This is just BioWare trying to repair the damage they themselves had created. 

What "damage"? To you, it's damage, but I thought that the endings were fine just the way they were and are, as do many people out there. For the devs, it's THEIR story, THEIR ending. That they made an Extended Cut at all comes to show you that they do listen to their fans. Next time you make your own video game and fans are in an uproar over YOUR endings, I'll be sure to bring this example up.

Sure they can. But they can't expect to finance THEIR story with MY money. I am sure as hell not going to buy anything from the future Mass Effect franchise for at least 10 years, and I am representing quite a lot of my friends, when I say this:
They did not listen to the fans. We wanted the PLOTHOLES FIXED. Well... didn't happen. On the contrary.
We put trust, money and emotions in Bioware and now we feel betrayed. Not happening again.

What "plot holes"? Everyone keeps throwing those phrases around to the extent that many are making strawmen out of supposed "plot holes". So, why not ask for a refund or demand it?

Here's a thread dedicated to the plot holes that seem to elude you.

http://social.biowar...ndex/10731925/1 

[RamilVenoard]

saracen16 wrote...

fluffywalrus wrote...

Erghiez06 wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

Erghiez06 wrote...

...Yeah.. My advice, watch the endings, then sell your game. This Extended Cut is basically BioWare spitting in your face. I actually had high hopes for this.

No. The EC is BioWare giving you what you, the fans, wanted.

The fans wanted a sensible ending to begin with. This is just BioWare trying to repair the damage they themselves had created. 

The problem is that with so many gamers having played ME3, there's a lot of differing ideas over what's sensible, and what's acceptable.

I mean, myself and my roommate are polar opposites when it comes to this, and I've seen enough evidence to know what there are many camps of people out there who feel differently about the endings. I know I would never buy a Bioware game going forward if they had implemented Indoctrination Theory into ME3. That, to me, would be an immense slap in the face, whereas my roommate would probably declare an annual holiday in Bioware's honor.
I just want some minor aspects explained and the ability to reject the starchild, and perhaps a small bit including my LI, while my rooommate would probably be furious and would swear off Bioware if such an ending was given.

There are a lot of camps. "Sensible" doesn't really hold a consistent value right now

Exactly. BioWare can't satisfy everyone, and they also have a story to make. If everyone pitched in to make BioWare's own story, it will be bland and insipid... not to mention that I don't want some lazy fanboy's own contrived ending shoved down my throat.

But that's what you got anyhow. You got a contrived ending by 2 of the staff, cutting out the entirety of the other writers. And don't tell me it wasn't contrived -- that ending felt forced, forget that I didn't like it for a second. It just didn't feel right. I mean, massive battle over Earth, cut to beam of light that changes every organic and synthetic on a molecular level, cut to Normandy crash landing on a planet somewhere? Just no.

[Obadiah]

Got it on XBox 360. Thumbs up.

Only played from the Marauder Shields section and got a tonne of content.

[sheppard7]

Mark of the Dragon wrote...

So i read the faq about the extended cut and I have one question do I have to load the legacy save to experience the EC? or If I start a whole new playthrough of ME3 will I experience it at the end of the game? If you have to beat the game just to reload and replat the last three missions to get the better endings then that is absolutly stupid. I'm one of the few that actually believe in Bioware and the extended cut but if this is the case then it was poorly thought out. Anyway if anyne has any info it would be appreciated!

FYI: This is not a thread to complain about how bioware keeps messing up. I just would honestly like to know.

Iasked this on a thread earlier but the moderator shuut it down and said to come here :/

Two places to start from to get the EC stuff.

If you load up your completed game, you will see some previous save points.

From here:

If you use the one called "Autosave" you will get the full EC stuff.

If you use the one called "Restart Mission: The Citadel: The Return" it will be faster to go through but you will miss some things in the EC but you will see the new endings a lot faster.

[35antonio]

saracen16 wrote...

fluffywalrus wrote...

Erghiez06 wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

Erghiez06 wrote...

...Yeah.. My advice, watch the endings, then sell your game. This Extended Cut is basically BioWare spitting in your face. I actually had high hopes for this.

No. The EC is BioWare giving you what you, the fans, wanted.

The fans wanted a sensible ending to begin with. This is just BioWare trying to repair the damage they themselves had created. 

The problem is that with so many gamers having played ME3, there's a lot of differing ideas over what's sensible, and what's acceptable.

I mean, myself and my roommate are polar opposites when it comes to this, and I've seen enough evidence to know what there are many camps of people out there who feel differently about the endings. I know I would never buy a Bioware game going forward if they had implemented Indoctrination Theory into ME3. That, to me, would be an immense slap in the face, whereas my roommate would probably declare an annual holiday in Bioware's honor.
I just want some minor aspects explained and the ability to reject the starchild, and perhaps a small bit including my LI, while my rooommate would probably be furious and would swear off Bioware if such an ending was given.

There are a lot of camps. "Sensible" doesn't really hold a consistent value right now

Exactly. BioWare can't satisfy everyone, and they also have a story to make. If everyone pitched in to make BioWare's own story, it will be bland and insipid... not to mention that I don't want some lazy fanboy's own contrived ending shoved down my throat.

Same here. Honestly, I liked the ending and I knew that alot of people were going to start flaming Bioware because they were expecting the Indoctrination Theory. I thought the ending was going to be the same has the previous ending but with scenes after showing that Shepard was being indoctrinated.
I believe the main reason of all this complains is that we can't see the result of some decisions in the end (Romances, etc). For example, when I was playing the Extended Cut and I chose Destroy, I was very frustrated that Shepard wasn't indoctrinated and everything was real because I wanted to see Shepard in the end with Miranda (Romance). Well just like the many of you, I wanted an happy ending. And a while after playing the extended cut, I undestood that this was the right ending.

[Zombiedude101]

I've got the PC version of the game, so where can I get the Extended Cut?

[Exterminians]

In 3h more or less will be in Origin.

[RamilVenoard]

35antonio wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

fluffywalrus wrote...

Erghiez06 wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

Erghiez06 wrote...

...Yeah.. My advice, watch the endings, then sell your game. This Extended Cut is basically BioWare spitting in your face. I actually had high hopes for this.

No. The EC is BioWare giving you what you, the fans, wanted.

The fans wanted a sensible ending to begin with. This is just BioWare trying to repair the damage they themselves had created. 

The problem is that with so many gamers having played ME3, there's a lot of differing ideas over what's sensible, and what's acceptable.

I mean, myself and my roommate are polar opposites when it comes to this, and I've seen enough evidence to know what there are many camps of people out there who feel differently about the endings. I know I would never buy a Bioware game going forward if they had implemented Indoctrination Theory into ME3. That, to me, would be an immense slap in the face, whereas my roommate would probably declare an annual holiday in Bioware's honor.
I just want some minor aspects explained and the ability to reject the starchild, and perhaps a small bit including my LI, while my rooommate would probably be furious and would swear off Bioware if such an ending was given.

There are a lot of camps. "Sensible" doesn't really hold a consistent value right now

Exactly. BioWare can't satisfy everyone, and they also have a story to make. If everyone pitched in to make BioWare's own story, it will be bland and insipid... not to mention that I don't want some lazy fanboy's own contrived ending shoved down my throat.

Same here. Honestly, I liked the ending and I knew that alot of people were going to start flaming Bioware because they were expecting the Indoctrination Theory. I thought the ending was going to be the same has the previous ending but with scenes after showing that Shepard was being indoctrinated.
I believe the main reason of all this complains is that we can't see the result of some decisions in the end (Romances, etc). For example, when I was playing the Extended Cut and I chose Destroy, I was very frustrated that Shepard wasn't indoctrinated and everything was real because I wanted to see Shepard in the end with Miranda (Romance). Well just like the many of you, I wanted an happy ending. And a while after playing the extended cut, I undestood that this was the right ending.

I did not, nor did I ever support IT. I thought it was interesting but it was like a bandaid on a cut that required stitches. AKA, inadequate. Forgive me my cheesy metaphors.

I agree that the results of your decisions should have played a role in the ending of the game. If you destroy and Survive, you should be with LI on Earth. LI shouldn't be running away on the Normandy...  If you are a Mirimancer (I am) she is on Earth anyway, so if Shep is alive, show them together. Etc.  I actually always pick control, so idk what happens during destroy.

[Bawseee]

Just release it for PS3, I wanna get extendo if you can believe that much.

Modifié par Bawseee, 26 juin 2012 - 02:55 .

[saracen16]

RamilVenoard wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

fluffywalrus wrote...

Erghiez06 wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

Erghiez06 wrote...

...Yeah.. My advice, watch the endings, then sell your game. This Extended Cut is basically BioWare spitting in your face. I actually had high hopes for this.

No. The EC is BioWare giving you what you, the fans, wanted.

The fans wanted a sensible ending to begin with. This is just BioWare trying to repair the damage they themselves had created. 

The problem is that with so many gamers having played ME3, there's a lot of differing ideas over what's sensible, and what's acceptable.

I mean, myself and my roommate are polar opposites when it comes to this, and I've seen enough evidence to know what there are many camps of people out there who feel differently about the endings. I know I would never buy a Bioware game going forward if they had implemented Indoctrination Theory into ME3. That, to me, would be an immense slap in the face, whereas my roommate would probably declare an annual holiday in Bioware's honor.
I just want some minor aspects explained and the ability to reject the starchild, and perhaps a small bit including my LI, while my rooommate would probably be furious and would swear off Bioware if such an ending was given.

There are a lot of camps. "Sensible" doesn't really hold a consistent value right now

Exactly. BioWare can't satisfy everyone, and they also have a story to make. If everyone pitched in to make BioWare's own story, it will be bland and insipid... not to mention that I don't want some lazy fanboy's own contrived ending shoved down my throat.

But that's what you got anyhow. You got a contrived ending by 2 of the staff, cutting out the entirety of the other writers. And don't tell me it wasn't contrived -- that ending felt forced, forget that I didn't like it for a second. It just didn't feel right. I mean, massive battle over Earth, cut to beam of light that changes every organic and synthetic on a molecular level, cut to Normandy crash landing on a planet somewhere? Just no.

That's your opinion. I didn't think it was forced at all, just like I didn't think that I was forced to choose whether the Rachni queen lives or dies. There are some things in the game itself that are beyond our control, and we have to accept it, even if it was just part of the ending.

[HazelrahFiver]

sheppard7 wrote...

Mark of the Dragon wrote...

So i read the faq about the extended cut and I have one question do I have to load the legacy save to experience the EC? or If I start a whole new playthrough of ME3 will I experience it at the end of the game? If you have to beat the game just to reload and replat the last three missions to get the better endings then that is absolutly stupid. I'm one of the few that actually believe in Bioware and the extended cut but if this is the case then it was poorly thought out. Anyway if anyne has any info it would be appreciated!

FYI: This is not a thread to complain about how bioware keeps messing up. I just would honestly like to know.

Iasked this on a thread earlier but the moderator shuut it down and said to come here :/

Two places to start from to get the EC stuff.

If you load up your completed game, you will see some previous save points.

From here:

If you use the one called "Autosave" you will get the full EC stuff.

If you use the one called "Restart Mission: The Citadel: The Return" it will be faster to go through but you will miss some things in the EC but you will see the new endings a lot faster.

I'm confused.  You can't simply load up a save before the Cerberus Base and experience the new endings in full?  How could the game even detect the difference?

[wes60620]

Well..... the Ext DLC is released & Playstation Network is taking its sweet $%# time posting it again. Might as well be in Europe!

[Conn156]

this is my view of the whole situation
bioware (or ea) are a mugger and we are a victim, they mugged us, came back and offered us our stuff abck and more as compensation, made us wait for our compensation then finally gave it to us just to mug us all over again, what they originally stole and what they had just given us

[RamilVenoard]

HazelrahFiver wrote...

sheppard7 wrote...

Mark of the Dragon wrote...

So i read the faq about the extended cut and I have one question do I have to load the legacy save to experience the EC? or If I start a whole new playthrough of ME3 will I experience it at the end of the game? If you have to beat the game just to reload and replat the last three missions to get the better endings then that is absolutly stupid. I'm one of the few that actually believe in Bioware and the extended cut but if this is the case then it was poorly thought out. Anyway if anyne has any info it would be appreciated!

FYI: This is not a thread to complain about how bioware keeps messing up. I just would honestly like to know.

Iasked this on a thread earlier but the moderator shuut it down and said to come here :/

Two places to start from to get the EC stuff.

If you load up your completed game, you will see some previous save points.

From here:

If you use the one called "Autosave" you will get the full EC stuff.

If you use the one called "Restart Mission: The Citadel: The Return" it will be faster to go through but you will miss some things in the EC but you will see the new endings a lot faster.

I'm confused.  You can't simply load up a save before the Cerberus Base and experience the new endings in full?  How could the game even detect the difference?

They "reprogrammed" the ending so that it reads the game variables that you have saved thus far.  They pretty much chopped off the end, remade it (the same way but + some stuff) and then reattached it. It works, dont worry.

[saracen16]

Erghiez06 wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

cortes007 wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

Erghiez06 wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

Erghiez06 wrote...

...Yeah.. My advice, watch the endings, then sell your game. This Extended Cut is basically BioWare spitting in your face. I actually had high hopes for this.

No. The EC is BioWare giving you what you, the fans, wanted.

The fans wanted a sensible ending to begin with. This is just BioWare trying to repair the damage they themselves had created. 

What "damage"? To you, it's damage, but I thought that the endings were fine just the way they were and are, as do many people out there. For the devs, it's THEIR story, THEIR ending. That they made an Extended Cut at all comes to show you that they do listen to their fans. Next time you make your own video game and fans are in an uproar over YOUR endings, I'll be sure to bring this example up.

Sure they can. But they can't expect to finance THEIR story with MY money. I am sure as hell not going to buy anything from the future Mass Effect franchise for at least 10 years, and I am representing quite a lot of my friends, when I say this:
They did not listen to the fans. We wanted the PLOTHOLES FIXED. Well... didn't happen. On the contrary.
We put trust, money and emotions in Bioware and now we feel betrayed. Not happening again.

What "plot holes"? Everyone keeps throwing those phrases around to the extent that many are making strawmen out of supposed "plot holes". So, why not ask for a refund or demand it?

Here's a thread dedicated to the plot holes that seem to elude you.

http://social.biowar...ndex/10731925/1 

They're not plot holes. If any of those posters had an attention span that's longer than 2 seconds, they'd realize, for example, that the Citadel was ultimately to be the processing center where the Reapers are created. They didn't believe that the Citadel was in immediate danger b/c the organics didn't know of its ultimate importance vis-a-vis the Crucible.

[Ashira Shepard]

For those of you arguing about the ending: A calm, sensible and literary view of the ending.

It's a bit long. But hey, kills some time waiting for EC to show up on Origin...

[RamilVenoard]

saracen16 wrote...

RamilVenoard wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

fluffywalrus wrote...

Erghiez06 wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

Erghiez06 wrote...

...Yeah.. My advice, watch the endings, then sell your game. This Extended Cut is basically BioWare spitting in your face. I actually had high hopes for this.

No. The EC is BioWare giving you what you, the fans, wanted.

The fans wanted a sensible ending to begin with. This is just BioWare trying to repair the damage they themselves had created. 

The problem is that with so many gamers having played ME3, there's a lot of differing ideas over what's sensible, and what's acceptable.

I mean, myself and my roommate are polar opposites when it comes to this, and I've seen enough evidence to know what there are many camps of people out there who feel differently about the endings. I know I would never buy a Bioware game going forward if they had implemented Indoctrination Theory into ME3. That, to me, would be an immense slap in the face, whereas my roommate would probably declare an annual holiday in Bioware's honor.
I just want some minor aspects explained and the ability to reject the starchild, and perhaps a small bit including my LI, while my rooommate would probably be furious and would swear off Bioware if such an ending was given.

There are a lot of camps. "Sensible" doesn't really hold a consistent value right now

Exactly. BioWare can't satisfy everyone, and they also have a story to make. If everyone pitched in to make BioWare's own story, it will be bland and insipid... not to mention that I don't want some lazy fanboy's own contrived ending shoved down my throat.

But that's what you got anyhow. You got a contrived ending by 2 of the staff, cutting out the entirety of the other writers. And don't tell me it wasn't contrived -- that ending felt forced, forget that I didn't like it for a second. It just didn't feel right. I mean, massive battle over Earth, cut to beam of light that changes every organic and synthetic on a molecular level, cut to Normandy crash landing on a planet somewhere? Just no.

That's your opinion. I didn't think it was forced at all, just like I didn't think that I was forced to choose whether the Rachni queen lives or dies. There are some things in the game itself that are beyond our control, and we have to accept it, even if it was just part of the ending.

You have to be joking... oh wait, you're serious? Ok. Huh.

Imagine Lord of the Rings consisted on a (mostly) great story of running around Middle Earth gathering help to fight Mordor.  But Tolkein wrote the last book along the lines of a giant battle at Minas Tirith, cut to Frodo getting his figner bitten off by a character you've never met before the last 5 minutes (Golum, aka Starbrat), cut to Bilbo, Frodo, Gandalf, etc on a ship to the Gray Havens.

Assuming you would be at least mildly frustrated by that ending I have just described, (if you're not, I'm done speaking with you since you clearly have no sense of narrative continuity) then riddle me this: how is a story that breaks narrative continuity even possibly non-contrived?

Modifié par RamilVenoard, 26 juin 2012 - 03:11 .

[Milady]

Just watched the extended red ending.. It was beautiful and I was totally bawling my eyes out. That the way it should have ended!

[LordMarrick]

The Destruction ending was soo well done could we have our Shepard servives DLC next please? Not to say much but the extended cut restored my will to play the single player again with such a satisfying conclusion

[sheppard7]

SilverMoonDragon wrote...

RamilVenoard wrote...

HazelrahFiver wrote...

sheppard7 wrote...

Mark of the Dragon wrote...

So i read the faq about the extended cut and I have one question do I have to load the legacy save to experience the EC? or If I start a whole new playthrough of ME3 will I experience it at the end of the game? If you have to beat the game just to reload and replat the last three missions to get the better endings then that is absolutly stupid. I'm one of the few that actually believe in Bioware and the extended cut but if this is the case then it was poorly thought out. Anyway if anyne has any info it would be appreciated!

FYI: This is not a thread to complain about how bioware keeps messing up. I just would honestly like to know.

Iasked this on a thread earlier but the moderator shuut it down and said to come here :/

Two places to start from to get the EC stuff.

If you load up your completed game, you will see some previous save points.

From here:

If you use the one called "Autosave" you will get the full EC stuff.

If you use the one called "Restart Mission: The Citadel: The Return" it will be faster to go through but you will miss some things in the EC but you will see the new endings a lot faster.

I'm confused.  You can't simply load up a save before the Cerberus Base and experience the new endings in full?  How could the game even detect the difference?

They "reprogrammed" the ending so that it reads the game variables that you have saved thus far.  They pretty much chopped off the end, remade it (the same way but + some stuff) and then reattached it. It works, dont worry.

I've been wondering this myself....so, just to clarify, you can load a game you haven't completed yet (for instance a save before the Cerberus base) and play it through to the end and still get the content? You don't have to load that special save of an already completed game and play it through to the end again?

Sorry for the confusion. Yes you can do just that. What I spoke of was the "latest" points to load for EC stuff. So anything prior to the Cerebus base will be EC'ed. hth