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[Baa Baa]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

There'd better be less whining on these boards after this.

With the EC's near dismissal, although not overt denial, of the Indoctrination Delusion, there will be more. Much, much more. 

And I, victorious as always, will enjoy it all.

LOLOLOLOL
And you call the Indoctrination Theorists delusional!
You and your horsing Cameltoetits, you and your horses

Modifié par Baa Baa, 23 juin 2012 - 12:54 .

[Manure]

rapscallioness wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

It's only 10 mins long per individualized play through.

HAHA, oh god this is truly gold.

It took them four months to dev ten minutes? LOL

From what I understand it's to be a variety of 10 minutes. Reflecting more of what you chose, or didn't choose. So, even though it's almost 2G, it's 2 G worth of different outcomes.

If you want to see it all, you may have to replay and do some things different.

This is what I gather.

Not necessarily, the way unreal engine works, can make it very hard to add/replace new content (especially on consoles) without very big downloads. It's possible that such large file isn´t 100% new game data.

[darthoptimus003]

Zardoc wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

There'd better be less whining on these boards after this.

Depends on whether or not the EC gives us what we asked for. And from what we know at this point, it won't.

maybe maybe nt

[OblivionDawn]

Anyone heard anything about potential Harbinger dialog?

[someguy1231]

OblivionDawn wrote...

Anyone heard anything about potential Harbinger dialog?

Pretty sure Harbinger's VA from ME2 was never called up, so doubt we'll get any, unless he has a different voice actor.

[Joe Del Toro]

I'm almost tempted to do a 'Your Avatar Responds To the EC News' thread

[someguy1231]

Also, let me say I'm disgusted by how many people in this thread say they'd be content with a crew/LI reunion with Shepard. We'd still have Shepard being forced to agree with the Catalyst's flawed logic. We'd still have a blatant deus ex machina for defeating the Reapers. We'd still have three endings that amount to Shepard committing either mass genocide, mass slavery, or mass genetic violation. We'd still have the victory fleet stranded at Earth. Until these are addressed and remedied, I don't care about anything else in the ending. Whether Shepard or even the entire Normandy crew lives or dies doesn't matter to me, as long as it makes sense. Saying that you just want your reunion with your space waifu or your bromates is akin to treating the symptom of a disease instead of the disease itself. And finally, any "reunion" you'd get would most likely be the result of contrived explanations or yet another deus ex machina, so your "reunion" would ring hollow.

Modifié par someguy1231, 23 juin 2012 - 01:12 .

[3DandBeyond]

One of the big problems with this whole debacle is not only what it did to ME, but to all games. The last bit of candy in any game was the ending. We don't want to see endings to games until the well, the end. How many of us will be satisfied any longer to rely upon surprise? At the very least we will want to know what others think of a game's ending.

And reviewers can't rely on merely telling us the gameplay is great or showing us select scenes. Though I personally will never believe paid reviewers ever again, unless they address the conclusion of any story based game, it may be cost them credibility. I'd assert most of them lost it already, but they will need to be more exhaustive in their reviews.

[Baa Baa]

someguy1231 wrote...

Also, let me say I'm disgusted by how many people in this thread say they'd be content with a crew/LI reunion with Shepard. We'd still have Shepard being forced to agree with the Catalyst's flawed logic. We'd still have a blatant deus ex machina for defeating the Reapers. We'd still have three endings that amount to Shepard committing either mass genocide, mass slavery, or mass genetic violation. We'd still have the victory fleet stranded at Earth. Until these are addressed and remedied, I don't care about anything else in the ending. Whether Shepard or even the entire Normandy crew lives or dies doesn't matter to me, as long as it makes sense. Saying that you just want your reunion with your space waifu or your bromates is akin to treating the symptom of a disease instead of the disease itself. And finally, any "reunion" you'd get would most likely be the result of contrived explanations or yet another deus ex machina, so your "reunion" would ring hollow.

I think many people are saying that because they're already aware that BioWare is going to stick to the current **** ending's logic, so they've gotten over that fact, and they will be able to let it go if they at least get a happy moment with their LI.
Having a moment like this wouldn't satisfy me totally, but I really want to see this in there AT LEAST.

[sth88]

I'd been largely ignoring the existence of this franchise for several weeks, and I was doing OK...

Now, with the EC just a few days away and the podcast that gives us no hope that the fundamental problems with the ending are fixed, all the despair, anguish, and anger I felt when I first finished the game is creeping up on me again...

[thefallen2far]

When people say "content", I don't think they mean "it'll make the ending good". It's still a pretty hated ending. It's just not well throught out. If people are saing a reunion with LI is something they'll be "content" with it, they mean it's all they need to walk away from the game entirely. It's still a crap ending, and will always be remmbered as a crap ending, but at least the most important aspect for hem will be resolved.

[Oni Changas]

So, anyone think the catalyst will make sense now or that it would be modified to have logic a sane person could comprehend?

[Baa Baa]

sth88 wrote...

I'd been largely ignoring the existence of this franchise for several weeks, and I was doing OK...

Now, with the EC just a few days away and the podcast that gives us no hope that the fundamental problems with the ending are fixed, all the despair, anguish, and anger I felt when I first finished the game is creeping up on me again...

This. It's weird and it's happening to me too. Like two days ago I was fully prepared to sell ME3 since I no longer had any attachement, now I'm back to playing the multiplayer, preparing for this damned EC to be released.

[wantedman dan]

Jesus.

One of those two senior devs basically just confirms that I paid seventy-goddamn-dollars to play imagination time.

As I listen to this podcast, I become more and more so infuriated.

Modifié par wantedman dan, 23 juin 2012 - 01:24 .

[Greed1914]

someguy1231 wrote...

Also, let me say I'm disgusted by how many people in this thread say they'd be content with a crew/LI reunion with Shepard. We'd still have Shepard being forced to agree with the Catalyst's flawed logic. We'd still have a blatant deus ex machina for defeating the Reapers. We'd still have three endings that amount to Shepard committing either mass genocide, mass slavery, or mass genetic violation. We'd still have the victory fleet stranded at Earth. Until these are addressed and remedied, I don't care about anything else in the ending. Whether Shepard or even the entire Normandy crew lives or dies doesn't matter to me, as long as it makes sense. Saying that you just want your reunion with your space waifu or your bromates is akin to treating the symptom of a disease instead of the disease itself. And finally, any "reunion" you'd get would most likely be the result of contrived explanations or yet another deus ex machina, so your "reunion" would ring hollow.

While I would not be satisfied with just a crew reunion, I think I can understand where the feeling comes from.  At this point, people have become desperate enough for anything good that they'll take what they can get.  

wantedman dan wrote...

Jesus.

One of those two senior devs basically just confirms that I paid seventy-goddamn-dollars to play imagination time.

As I listen to this podcast, I become more and more so infuriating.

That's why thing like head canon and fanfictions don't work for me.  If I was going to rely on my imagination, I'd save my money. 

Modifié par Greed1914, 23 juin 2012 - 01:25 .

[Baa Baa]

wantedman dan wrote...

Jesus.

One of those two senior devs basically just confirms that I paid seventy-goddamn-dollars to play imagination time.

As I listen to this podcast, I become more and more so infuriating.

I know, the things they say in that 10 min interview are appaling. They sound delusional.

[wantedman dan]

Baa Baa wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Jesus.

One of those two senior devs basically just confirms that I paid seventy-goddamn-dollars to play imagination time.

As I listen to this podcast, I become more and more so infuriating.

I know, the things they say in that 10 min interview are appaling. They sound delusional.

The end is not a culmination of my choices, but one final choice?

This is absolute nonsense.

[3DandBeyond]

Baa Baa wrote...

someguy1231 wrote...

Also, let me say I'm disgusted by how many people in this thread say they'd be content with a crew/LI reunion with Shepard. We'd still have Shepard being forced to agree with the Catalyst's flawed logic. We'd still have a blatant deus ex machina for defeating the Reapers. We'd still have three endings that amount to Shepard committing either mass genocide, mass slavery, or mass genetic violation. We'd still have the victory fleet stranded at Earth. Until these are addressed and remedied, I don't care about anything else in the ending. Whether Shepard or even the entire Normandy crew lives or dies doesn't matter to me, as long as it makes sense. Saying that you just want your reunion with your space waifu or your bromates is akin to treating the symptom of a disease instead of the disease itself. And finally, any "reunion" you'd get would most likely be the result of contrived explanations or yet another deus ex machina, so your "reunion" would ring hollow.

I think many people are saying that because they're already aware that BioWare is going to stick to the current **** ending's logic, so they've gotten over that fact, and they will be able to let it go if they at least get a happy moment with their LI.
Having a moment like this wouldn't satisfy me totally, but I really want to see this in there AT LEAST.

Exactly.  I don't think people at this point are saying they would be happy with it.  I think they wanted much more but with the podcast realize that it appears the best they can hope for is at least a happy moment.  The rest, if it is not fundamentally changed (it isn't), is the same old crap.

Just the one statement (of many) in regards to fans thinking there was doom and gloom and everything was destroyed, but that's not how the devs wanted people to see it, indicates they don't seem to be able to remember what happened in the story before.  It's like everyone wrote a piece of ME3 loosely based on some other stories of the same name and all of the writers sat in different rooms and never coordinated what they wrote.  It's also like they purposely intended to ignore events that occurred before Shepard hits London.  And apparently we were also considered too stupid to remember any of this as well.

What the heck did they think people were supposed to believe with the destruction of the Mass Relays?  There's information about what should happen.  And what were people supposed to believe if they allowed the Earth to be vaporized?  Or if all endings lead to Shepard dying except the idiot one where you need to play MP so the explosion that kill Shepard is weaker and doesn't kill him/her?  What were people supposed to believe was the result of stranding all the fleets?  The Normandy?  Oh, I guess that was happy time.  Seriously, what were we supposed to get from the (many vastly different endings)?  And exactly how did those reflect any choices other than the one made at the very end?

At this point, it's like we don't even speak any similar language known to humans.  I think I'm speaking English and they are hearing Martian.  Where's a translation implant when you need one?

[Priss Blackburne]

I personally will probably wait for the youtube videos to pop up to see if I'll take the time to download the EC. I was surprised how sad I felt over seeing that the EC was coming out the month. I've resigned myself to the negative thinking that this is only going to add to a crappy ending just making it a longer ordeal to go through.

I can't believe I went from telling everyone I know that this is the best franchise sci-fi universe I have seen yet, to It was okay. Funny how a single ending can effect someones feelings about a series.

I'm afraid to watch the developer video about the EC.

[3DandBeyond]

OniTYME wrote...

So, anyone think the catalyst will make sense now or that it would be modified to have logic a sane person could comprehend?

Apparently not bloody likely.

[Baa Baa]

wantedman dan wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Jesus.

One of those two senior devs basically just confirms that I paid seventy-goddamn-dollars to play imagination time.

As I listen to this podcast, I become more and more so infuriating.

I know, the things they say in that 10 min interview are appaling. They sound delusional.

The end is not a culmination of my choices, but one final choice?

This is absolute nonsense.

I like to think that they're not really this stupid, but... my god they sound soooo serious

[wantedman dan]

Okay, x-ed out of the tab at 5:35. I'm not going to listen to anymore of that propaganda.

Jessica Merizan wanted me to buy the notion that...

One of the things I get to experience that I wish that more people could be a fly on the wall at Bioware, is the care and concern that you guys put into making these decisions...

Please. If they truly cared and shared our concern, the EC would not be necessary in the first goddamn place.

Total, absolute, inherent nonsense.

[Greed1914]

wantedman dan wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Jesus.

One of those two senior devs basically just confirms that I paid seventy-goddamn-dollars to play imagination time.

As I listen to this podcast, I become more and more so infuriating.

I know, the things they say in that 10 min interview are appaling. They sound delusional.

The end is not a culmination of my choices, but one final choice?

This is absolute nonsense.

Which amounts the them confirming one of the biggest problems with the ending.  It was divorced from the rest of the game, and only the largely arbitrary EMS system affected it. 

[wantedman dan]

Baa Baa wrote...

I like to think that they're not really this stupid, but... my god they sound soooo serious

I quit listening to it. There's only so much inane rambling that I can take before going mad.

[wantedman dan]

Greed1914 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Jesus.

One of those two senior devs basically just confirms that I paid seventy-goddamn-dollars to play imagination time.

As I listen to this podcast, I become more and more so infuriating.

I know, the things they say in that 10 min interview are appaling. They sound delusional.

The end is not a culmination of my choices, but one final choice?

This is absolute nonsense.

Which amounts the them confirming one of the biggest problems with the ending.  It was divorced from the rest of the game, and only the largely arbitrary EMS system affected it. 

Which they're not addressing.

I'm done. I'll download and play the EC, but after that, I'm done with Bioware.