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Landon7001 wrote...
considering the memorial wall screenshot they showed, I dont know how likely a li reunion is........
Landon7001 wrote...
they could just as easily show a 10 sec scene on tuchanka or rannoch to do that....but man i sure hope for a reunion w/ ashley....if not...........im gone
Modifié par atalair, 25 juin 2012 - 01:04 .
Archonsg wrote...
ratzerman wrote...
Drew Karpyshyn left to work on TOR halfway through ME2, and Mac apparently felt the need to replace his dark matter storyline with something of his own creation.Fezztheeelite2 wrote...
How in the hell did this story line even get to the game. it has quite literally killed the universe it lives in :[
To be fair, the original leaked ending with dark energy wasn't that much better. It was better in that you did have 2 very distinct endings, murder the human race to save the galaxy, or tell the reapers to frack off and possibly dooming the galaxy. Very "space magicky" and was pretty much a twist that did not go well with quite a number of fans. and oh yes, "human reaper fleet" *shudders*
I do however would want to believe that Drew on the other hand would take fan feedback and rewrite or retcon some of the above to something less "fantasy" and more "brighter".
Modifié par Armass81, 25 juin 2012 - 01:29 .
atalair wrote...
as long im reunited with Tali im happy if that dont happens no more bioware products for me.
Landon7001 wrote...
considering the memorial wall screenshot they showed, I dont know how likely a li reunion is........
EvilChani wrote...
atalair wrote...
as long im reunited with Tali im happy if that dont happens no more bioware products for me.
After playing ME3 through until almost the end and stopping because I had seen the "choices" you got and the utterly mind-boggingly stupid way the game ended, I told myself that, if they had had a scene where Shepard met Thane "across the sea", I could've stomached the rest of it and played the damned series again. Why? Because after seeing the endings, and seeing how they completely screwed the game with the forced autodialog, lack of distinction between Shepards, and forcing their "artistic view" down our throats (I'm sorry, the whole "the reapers are the good guys and just kill us so we don't kill ourselves!", and the starbrat bull**** is enough to make me puke and leaves me with the overwhelming need to shower the same way the third Matrix movie did), then I was desperate for anything that I could find redeeming about the series as a whole. And, at the very least, the reuniion between dead Shepard and dead Thane gave me a semblance of a happy, if bittersweet ending.
But you know what? As inviting as that sounds, it wouldn't have fixed the game's problems. The ending is still nerfed. They stripped out of ME3 a lot of the things that made the other two games good. They managed to make ME2 completely pointless. Their "artistic vision" sucks donkey balls and their arrogance and refusal to stop clinging to the idea that they're awesome and we're just too stupid to get it is no more than them verbally spitting in our faces after they screwed us out of our money under the promise that we would get something we did not get. As I said in an earlier post, we were told we were getting a chocolate torte - instead we got a turd pie. Them giving me a two second clip of dead Shepard with dead Thane won't change that. That damned starbrat is still there, the overabundance of autodialog remains, and, unless they actually changed the ending to fit what they had built the series toward, then the ending will still suck.
They were given the chance to fix things. An apology for not delivering what was promised (and what we had come to expect from BioWare) would have gone a long way in mending fences, and actually addressing what we told them time and again was the our real problems - and that is not that we needed "clarity" on their piece of crap artistic "vision" - would've made most of us let it go and call bygones bygones. Instead, they insulted us. They refused to acknowledge what we said if it didn't fit what they wanted. Then they give this damned podcast so they can insult us again and act like they paid attention to what we said when they completely ignored us. If someone goes into a restaurant and complains that there's a roach in their soup, you don't bring out more roaches and a few flies to throw in it, but that's basically what it seems they're doing.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this DLC will actually make the game better, but given that podcast I highly doubt it. And they have damaged my view of the company, regardless. Their utter contempt for any customers who dare not get on their knees and kiss their asses for being so incredibly genius to come up with this turd should be obvious to even the most deluded of us. And this idea that, somehow, we owe them respect and adoration for whatever crap they want to throw in our faces is downright insane. They didn't give us this damned game. We didn't get paid to spend hundreds of hours playing the previous games, much less for whatever time we spend on ME3. We don't owe them ****. They owe us. They owe us for the way we have, in the past, spread word of their games and encouraged our friends and family to play them. They owe us for preordering their games for no other reason than we blindly trusted them to give us what they have always given us in the past. They owe us for the multiple copies of their games we've bought as gifts or just so we can have them in other locations or available in other forms.
If this DLC doesn't fix this, then we need to get it into our heads that we should not "just be happy that" they gave us a squad reuinion or LI reunion even though they still didn't fix the major problems. We should not lower our expectations because they fail to deliver. That's a mistake because all BioWare will learn from it is that they can treat their fans like **** and produce games that leave us unhappy and we'll still shove our money at them. You don't reward failure and narcissism. You don't let companies that treat their customers with contempt ride on a reputation you helped build for them. No, instead, when they fail you...when they treat you with contempt...you make damn sure everyone you know hears about it and make that company understand that, while you did help them build a good reputation you can work just as hard to destroy it. That's the only way they get it, and it's the only way you ensure that companies will even attempt to do right by you.
/end annoyed rambling...
sparkyo42 wrote...
EvilChani wrote...
atalair wrote...
as long im reunited with Tali im happy if that dont happens no more bioware products for me.
After playing ME3 through until almost the end and stopping because I had seen the "choices" you got and the utterly mind-boggingly stupid way the game ended, I told myself that, if they had had a scene where Shepard met Thane "across the sea", I could've stomached the rest of it and played the damned series again. Why? Because after seeing the endings, and seeing how they completely screwed the game with the forced autodialog, lack of distinction between Shepards, and forcing their "artistic view" down our throats (I'm sorry, the whole "the reapers are the good guys and just kill us so we don't kill ourselves!", and the starbrat bull**** is enough to make me puke and leaves me with the overwhelming need to shower the same way the third Matrix movie did), then I was desperate for anything that I could find redeeming about the series as a whole. And, at the very least, the reuniion between dead Shepard and dead Thane gave me a semblance of a happy, if bittersweet ending.
But you know what? As inviting as that sounds, it wouldn't have fixed the game's problems. The ending is still nerfed. They stripped out of ME3 a lot of the things that made the other two games good. They managed to make ME2 completely pointless. Their "artistic vision" sucks donkey balls and their arrogance and refusal to stop clinging to the idea that they're awesome and we're just too stupid to get it is no more than them verbally spitting in our faces after they screwed us out of our money under the promise that we would get something we did not get. As I said in an earlier post, we were told we were getting a chocolate torte - instead we got a turd pie. Them giving me a two second clip of dead Shepard with dead Thane won't change that. That damned starbrat is still there, the overabundance of autodialog remains, and, unless they actually changed the ending to fit what they had built the series toward, then the ending will still suck.
They were given the chance to fix things. An apology for not delivering what was promised (and what we had come to expect from BioWare) would have gone a long way in mending fences, and actually addressing what we told them time and again was the our real problems - and that is not that we needed "clarity" on their piece of crap artistic "vision" - would've made most of us let it go and call bygones bygones. Instead, they insulted us. They refused to acknowledge what we said if it didn't fit what they wanted. Then they give this damned podcast so they can insult us again and act like they paid attention to what we said when they completely ignored us. If someone goes into a restaurant and complains that there's a roach in their soup, you don't bring out more roaches and a few flies to throw in it, but that's basically what it seems they're doing.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this DLC will actually make the game better, but given that podcast I highly doubt it. And they have damaged my view of the company, regardless. Their utter contempt for any customers who dare not get on their knees and kiss their asses for being so incredibly genius to come up with this turd should be obvious to even the most deluded of us. And this idea that, somehow, we owe them respect and adoration for whatever crap they want to throw in our faces is downright insane. They didn't give us this damned game. We didn't get paid to spend hundreds of hours playing the previous games, much less for whatever time we spend on ME3. We don't owe them ****. They owe us. They owe us for the way we have, in the past, spread word of their games and encouraged our friends and family to play them. They owe us for preordering their games for no other reason than we blindly trusted them to give us what they have always given us in the past. They owe us for the multiple copies of their games we've bought as gifts or just so we can have them in other locations or available in other forms.
If this DLC doesn't fix this, then we need to get it into our heads that we should not "just be happy that" they gave us a squad reuinion or LI reunion even though they still didn't fix the major problems. We should not lower our expectations because they fail to deliver. That's a mistake because all BioWare will learn from it is that they can treat their fans like **** and produce games that leave us unhappy and we'll still shove our money at them. You don't reward failure and narcissism. You don't let companies that treat their customers with contempt ride on a reputation you helped build for them. No, instead, when they fail you...when they treat you with contempt...you make damn sure everyone you know hears about it and make that company understand that, while you did help them build a good reputation you can work just as hard to destroy it. That's the only way they get it, and it's the only way you ensure that companies will even attempt to do right by you.
/end annoyed rambling...
+1 for suming up everything I think about this crap.
Archonsg wrote...
Landon7001 wrote...
considering the memorial wall screenshot they showed, I dont know how likely a li reunion is........
For the LI reunion to happen, Shepard has to be alive for that, and for the Paragon, thst means to even get that chance, you have to ;
1) betray your allies and commit genocide
2) murder a friend that you yourself nurtured and taught the meaning of love
otherwise, since you are stuck with a suicide choice that pretty much leaves you very dead.
*sheds tear* that post was wonderful.EvilChani wrote...
atalair wrote...
as long im reunited with Tali im happy if that dont happens no more bioware products for me.
After playing ME3 through until almost the end and stopping because I had seen the "choices" you got and the utterly mind-boggingly stupid way the game ended, I told myself that, if they had had a scene where Shepard met Thane "across the sea", I could've stomached the rest of it and played the damned series again. Why? Because after seeing the endings, and seeing how they completely screwed the game with the forced autodialog, lack of distinction between Shepards, and forcing their "artistic view" down our throats (I'm sorry, the whole "the reapers are the good guys and just kill us so we don't kill ourselves!", and the starbrat bull**** is enough to make me puke and leaves me with the overwhelming need to shower the same way the third Matrix movie did), then I was desperate for anything that I could find redeeming about the series as a whole. And, at the very least, the reuniion between dead Shepard and dead Thane gave me a semblance of a happy, if bittersweet ending.
But you know what? As inviting as that sounds, it wouldn't have fixed the game's problems. The ending is still nerfed. They stripped out of ME3 a lot of the things that made the other two games good. They managed to make ME2 completely pointless. Their "artistic vision" sucks donkey balls and their arrogance and refusal to stop clinging to the idea that they're awesome and we're just too stupid to get it is no more than them verbally spitting in our faces after they screwed us out of our money under the promise that we would get something we did not get. As I said in an earlier post, we were told we were getting a chocolate torte - instead we got a turd pie. Them giving me a two second clip of dead Shepard with dead Thane won't change that. That damned starbrat is still there, the overabundance of autodialog remains, and, unless they actually changed the ending to fit what they had built the series toward, then the ending will still suck.
They were given the chance to fix things. An apology for not delivering what was promised (and what we had come to expect from BioWare) would have gone a long way in mending fences, and actually addressing what we told them time and again was the our real problems - and that is not that we needed "clarity" on their piece of crap artistic "vision" - would've made most of us let it go and call bygones bygones. Instead, they insulted us. They refused to acknowledge what we said if it didn't fit what they wanted. Then they give this damned podcast so they can insult us again and act like they paid attention to what we said when they completely ignored us. If someone goes into a restaurant and complains that there's a roach in their soup, you don't bring out more roaches and a few flies to throw in it, but that's basically what it seems they're doing.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this DLC will actually make the game better, but given that podcast I highly doubt it. And they have damaged my view of the company, regardless. Their utter contempt for any customers who dare not get on their knees and kiss their asses for being so incredibly genius to come up with this turd should be obvious to even the most deluded of us. And this idea that, somehow, we owe them respect and adoration for whatever crap they want to throw in our faces is downright insane. They didn't give us this damned game. We didn't get paid to spend hundreds of hours playing the previous games, much less for whatever time we spend on ME3. We don't owe them ****. They owe us. They owe us for the way we have, in the past, spread word of their games and encouraged our friends and family to play them. They owe us for preordering their games for no other reason than we blindly trusted them to give us what they have always given us in the past. They owe us for the multiple copies of their games we've bought as gifts or just so we can have them in other locations or available in other forms.
If this DLC doesn't fix this, then we need to get it into our heads that we should not "just be happy that" they gave us a squad reuinion or LI reunion even though they still didn't fix the major problems. We should not lower our expectations because they fail to deliver. That's a mistake because all BioWare will learn from it is that they can treat their fans like **** and produce games that leave us unhappy and we'll still shove our money at them. You don't reward failure and narcissism. You don't let companies that treat their customers with contempt ride on a reputation you helped build for them. No, instead, when they fail you...when they treat you with contempt...you make damn sure everyone you know hears about it and make that company understand that, while you did help them build a good reputation you can work just as hard to destroy it. That's the only way they get it, and it's the only way you ensure that companies will even attempt to do right by you.
/end annoyed rambling...
BlueStorm83 wrote...
I'm gonna input my refutations in Bold Italics.
has every reason to lie, c) has been doing some very bad things from "your" perspective, and d) is using crazy to back it all up. The other scary part is that far too many people think the "kid" (though he could be a fairly smart turnip for all we know) may have good motives, or think he does, and that matters. That is totally irrelevant. You don't ask a guy with a gun to your head if he's going to kill you for the "right" reasons and even if you did something bad to him and that's his reason, you still are going to try to come out alive. That's the perspective that matters-the kid's is irrelevant.
Bigdoser wrote...
*sheds tear* that post was wonderful.EvilChani wrote...
atalair wrote...
as long im reunited with Tali im happy if that dont happens no more bioware products for me.
After playing ME3 through until almost the end and stopping because I had seen the "choices" you got and the utterly mind-boggingly stupid way the game ended, I told myself that, if they had had a scene where Shepard met Thane "across the sea", I could've stomached the rest of it and played the damned series again. Why? Because after seeing the endings, and seeing how they completely screwed the game with the forced autodialog, lack of distinction between Shepards, and forcing their "artistic view" down our throats (I'm sorry, the whole "the reapers are the good guys and just kill us so we don't kill ourselves!", and the starbrat bull**** is enough to make me puke and leaves me with the overwhelming need to shower the same way the third Matrix movie did), then I was desperate for anything that I could find redeeming about the series as a whole. And, at the very least, the reuniion between dead Shepard and dead Thane gave me a semblance of a happy, if bittersweet ending.
But you know what? As inviting as that sounds, it wouldn't have fixed the game's problems. The ending is still nerfed. They stripped out of ME3 a lot of the things that made the other two games good. They managed to make ME2 completely pointless. Their "artistic vision" sucks donkey balls and their arrogance and refusal to stop clinging to the idea that they're awesome and we're just too stupid to get it is no more than them verbally spitting in our faces after they screwed us out of our money under the promise that we would get something we did not get. As I said in an earlier post, we were told we were getting a chocolate torte - instead we got a turd pie. Them giving me a two second clip of dead Shepard with dead Thane won't change that. That damned starbrat is still there, the overabundance of autodialog remains, and, unless they actually changed the ending to fit what they had built the series toward, then the ending will still suck.
They were given the chance to fix things. An apology for not delivering what was promised (and what we had come to expect from BioWare) would have gone a long way in mending fences, and actually addressing what we told them time and again was the our real problems - and that is not that we needed "clarity" on their piece of crap artistic "vision" - would've made most of us let it go and call bygones bygones. Instead, they insulted us. They refused to acknowledge what we said if it didn't fit what they wanted. Then they give this damned podcast so they can insult us again and act like they paid attention to what we said when they completely ignored us. If someone goes into a restaurant and complains that there's a roach in their soup, you don't bring out more roaches and a few flies to throw in it, but that's basically what it seems they're doing.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this DLC will actually make the game better, but given that podcast I highly doubt it. And they have damaged my view of the company, regardless. Their utter contempt for any customers who dare not get on their knees and kiss their asses for being so incredibly genius to come up with this turd should be obvious to even the most deluded of us. And this idea that, somehow, we owe them respect and adoration for whatever crap they want to throw in our faces is downright insane. They didn't give us this damned game. We didn't get paid to spend hundreds of hours playing the previous games, much less for whatever time we spend on ME3. We don't owe them ****. They owe us. They owe us for the way we have, in the past, spread word of their games and encouraged our friends and family to play them. They owe us for preordering their games for no other reason than we blindly trusted them to give us what they have always given us in the past. They owe us for the multiple copies of their games we've bought as gifts or just so we can have them in other locations or available in other forms.
If this DLC doesn't fix this, then we need to get it into our heads that we should not "just be happy that" they gave us a squad reuinion or LI reunion even though they still didn't fix the major problems. We should not lower our expectations because they fail to deliver. That's a mistake because all BioWare will learn from it is that they can treat their fans like **** and produce games that leave us unhappy and we'll still shove our money at them. You don't reward failure and narcissism. You don't let companies that treat their customers with contempt ride on a reputation you helped build for them. No, instead, when they fail you...when they treat you with contempt...you make damn sure everyone you know hears about it and make that company understand that, while you did help them build a good reputation you can work just as hard to destroy it. That's the only way they get it, and it's the only way you ensure that companies will even attempt to do right by you.
/end annoyed rambling...
atalair wrote...
as long i'm reunited with Tali i'm happy if that don't happen i'm done with ME and bioware in general.
+3Landon7001 wrote...
sparkyo42 wrote...
EvilChani wrote...
atalair wrote...
as long im reunited with Tali im happy if that dont happens no more bioware products for me.
After playing ME3 through until almost the end and stopping because I had seen the "choices" you got and the utterly mind-boggingly stupid way the game ended, I told myself that, if they had had a scene where Shepard met Thane "across the sea", I could've stomached the rest of it and played the damned series again. Why? Because after seeing the endings, and seeing how they completely screwed the game with the forced autodialog, lack of distinction between Shepards, and forcing their "artistic view" down our throats (I'm sorry, the whole "the reapers are the good guys and just kill us so we don't kill ourselves!", and the starbrat bull**** is enough to make me puke and leaves me with the overwhelming need to shower the same way the third Matrix movie did), then I was desperate for anything that I could find redeeming about the series as a whole. And, at the very least, the reuniion between dead Shepard and dead Thane gave me a semblance of a happy, if bittersweet ending.
But you know what? As inviting as that sounds, it wouldn't have fixed the game's problems. The ending is still nerfed. They stripped out of ME3 a lot of the things that made the other two games good. They managed to make ME2 completely pointless. Their "artistic vision" sucks donkey balls and their arrogance and refusal to stop clinging to the idea that they're awesome and we're just too stupid to get it is no more than them verbally spitting in our faces after they screwed us out of our money under the promise that we would get something we did not get. As I said in an earlier post, we were told we were getting a chocolate torte - instead we got a turd pie. Them giving me a two second clip of dead Shepard with dead Thane won't change that. That damned starbrat is still there, the overabundance of autodialog remains, and, unless they actually changed the ending to fit what they had built the series toward, then the ending will still suck.
They were given the chance to fix things. An apology for not delivering what was promised (and what we had come to expect from BioWare) would have gone a long way in mending fences, and actually addressing what we told them time and again was the our real problems - and that is not that we needed "clarity" on their piece of crap artistic "vision" - would've made most of us let it go and call bygones bygones. Instead, they insulted us. They refused to acknowledge what we said if it didn't fit what they wanted. Then they give this damned podcast so they can insult us again and act like they paid attention to what we said when they completely ignored us. If someone goes into a restaurant and complains that there's a roach in their soup, you don't bring out more roaches and a few flies to throw in it, but that's basically what it seems they're doing.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this DLC will actually make the game better, but given that podcast I highly doubt it. And they have damaged my view of the company, regardless. Their utter contempt for any customers who dare not get on their knees and kiss their asses for being so incredibly genius to come up with this turd should be obvious to even the most deluded of us. And this idea that, somehow, we owe them respect and adoration for whatever crap they want to throw in our faces is downright insane. They didn't give us this damned game. We didn't get paid to spend hundreds of hours playing the previous games, much less for whatever time we spend on ME3. We don't owe them ****. They owe us. They owe us for the way we have, in the past, spread word of their games and encouraged our friends and family to play them. They owe us for preordering their games for no other reason than we blindly trusted them to give us what they have always given us in the past. They owe us for the multiple copies of their games we've bought as gifts or just so we can have them in other locations or available in other forms.
If this DLC doesn't fix this, then we need to get it into our heads that we should not "just be happy that" they gave us a squad reuinion or LI reunion even though they still didn't fix the major problems. We should not lower our expectations because they fail to deliver. That's a mistake because all BioWare will learn from it is that they can treat their fans like **** and produce games that leave us unhappy and we'll still shove our money at them. You don't reward failure and narcissism. You don't let companies that treat their customers with contempt ride on a reputation you helped build for them. No, instead, when they fail you...when they treat you with contempt...you make damn sure everyone you know hears about it and make that company understand that, while you did help them build a good reputation you can work just as hard to destroy it. That's the only way they get it, and it's the only way you ensure that companies will even attempt to do right by you.
/end annoyed rambling...
+1 for suming up everything I think about this crap.
+ 2
Archonsg wrote...
Landon7001 wrote...
considering the memorial wall screenshot they showed, I dont know how likely a li reunion is........
For the LI reunion to happen, Shepard has to be alive for that, and for the Paragon, thst means to even get that chance, you have to ;
1) betray your allies and commit genocide
2) murder a friend that you yourself nurtured and taught the meaning of love
otherwise, since you are stuck with a suicide choice that pretty much leaves you very dead.
Landon7001 wrote...
Heiwa no Senso wrote...
just listened to the interview.
"you cannot completely satisfy everyone..."
smart move.
what they CAN do is give the OPTION in ONE of the endings for an li reunion for the many,many ppl who want one, as well as making the end make sense
3DandBeyond wrote...
Landon7001 wrote...
Heiwa no Senso wrote...
just listened to the interview.
"you cannot completely satisfy everyone..."
smart move.
what they CAN do is give the OPTION in ONE of the endings for an li reunion for the many,many ppl who want one, as well as making the end make sense
While that would be better than nothing and probably more than we will get, it would at least be something. Wouldn't solve the real issue, which is the tone deafness that seems to have pervaded a company that did indeed have a chance to make a truly blockbuster break out game.
The problem is, they even got it wrong at the end of this current ending in relation to LIs. Everyone, no matter what gets to see Joker, Anderson, and Liara. Why was that thought to make sense? And if that couldn't be "personalized" how will they do it for "real"?
3DandBeyond wrote...
Archonsg wrote...
Landon7001 wrote...
considering the memorial wall screenshot they showed, I dont know how likely a li reunion is........
For the LI reunion to happen, Shepard has to be alive for that, and for the Paragon, thst means to even get that chance, you have to ;
1) betray your allies and commit genocide
2) murder a friend that you yourself nurtured and taught the meaning of love
otherwise, since you are stuck with a suicide choice that pretty much leaves you very dead.
If they still make me kill EDI and the geth to reunite Shepard with LI, then they can kiss me where the sun don't shine. EDI in London told my Shepard that Joker unshackled her but Shepard gave her life. Thanks Bioware for making me kill her. How cold can you be to think that makes sense? Seriously. And Legion gave his life, proved the value of his soul was worth more than many others who cowered behind Shepard or called Shepard crazy and couldn't be bothered to risk a finger to save their own lives. Legion's life was ultimately disposable as are all the geth in order for Shepard to "live". What kind of freaking emotional mind trip were they on here?
Oh yeah, they recognize we cared about these characters. Yeah, well prove it. None of this showed they knew anything about real emotional concern. Sure, it's fictional, but characters do have an emotional impact. People cry at movies and we did in parts of this game and we were meant to. But, we never should have been meant to feel like we just murdered people we had helped give life to-somebody please explain what kind of freaking headcase decided that was good.
And as if that weren't bad enough, it's either kill people like EDI and the geth, that you may have cared about or commit suicide. WTF? Ok, again, who in hell thought this was good?
Then you listen to the podcast and they say they never wanted people to think the galaxy afterwards was in a horrible mess, to paraphrase. Oh, really? First off, in most cases the person you cared about the most (Shepard) is dead or is a gasping lonely torso sitting in rubble for making a ridiculously stupid choice, and secondly, do you even recall things you guys wrote before that led people to that conclusion?
It takes so much head canon crap to conclude otherwise that you (Bioware) may as well just have said ME1 and ME2 are irrelevant. If you want ME3 to make sense, ignore them. And then you should have said to ignore the codex Desperate Measures that is still in ME3 and says a ruptured relay will ruin terrestrial worlds. Hey, Bioware how about you actually research within your own games the things you write before saying things like you don't want people to think the galaxy's a mess. You said it would be, why should we think otherwise? Drugs are very bad for you.
+4Benchpress610 wrote...
+3Landon7001 wrote...
sparkyo42 wrote...
EvilChani wrote...
atalair wrote...
as long im reunited with Tali im happy if that dont happens no more bioware products for me.
After playing ME3 through until almost the end and stopping because I had seen the "choices" you got and the utterly mind-boggingly stupid way the game ended, I told myself that, if they had had a scene where Shepard met Thane "across the sea", I could've stomached the rest of it and played the damned series again. Why? Because after seeing the endings, and seeing how they completely screwed the game with the forced autodialog, lack of distinction between Shepards, and forcing their "artistic view" down our throats (I'm sorry, the whole "the reapers are the good guys and just kill us so we don't kill ourselves!", and the starbrat bull**** is enough to make me puke and leaves me with the overwhelming need to shower the same way the third Matrix movie did), then I was desperate for anything that I could find redeeming about the series as a whole. And, at the very least, the reuniion between dead Shepard and dead Thane gave me a semblance of a happy, if bittersweet ending.
But you know what? As inviting as that sounds, it wouldn't have fixed the game's problems. The ending is still nerfed. They stripped out of ME3 a lot of the things that made the other two games good. They managed to make ME2 completely pointless. Their "artistic vision" sucks donkey balls and their arrogance and refusal to stop clinging to the idea that they're awesome and we're just too stupid to get it is no more than them verbally spitting in our faces after they screwed us out of our money under the promise that we would get something we did not get. As I said in an earlier post, we were told we were getting a chocolate torte - instead we got a turd pie. Them giving me a two second clip of dead Shepard with dead Thane won't change that. That damned starbrat is still there, the overabundance of autodialog remains, and, unless they actually changed the ending to fit what they had built the series toward, then the ending will still suck.
They were given the chance to fix things. An apology for not delivering what was promised (and what we had come to expect from BioWare) would have gone a long way in mending fences, and actually addressing what we told them time and again was the our real problems - and that is not that we needed "clarity" on their piece of crap artistic "vision" - would've made most of us let it go and call bygones bygones. Instead, they insulted us. They refused to acknowledge what we said if it didn't fit what they wanted. Then they give this damned podcast so they can insult us again and act like they paid attention to what we said when they completely ignored us. If someone goes into a restaurant and complains that there's a roach in their soup, you don't bring out more roaches and a few flies to throw in it, but that's basically what it seems they're doing.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this DLC will actually make the game better, but given that podcast I highly doubt it. And they have damaged my view of the company, regardless. Their utter contempt for any customers who dare not get on their knees and kiss their asses for being so incredibly genius to come up with this turd should be obvious to even the most deluded of us. And this idea that, somehow, we owe them respect and adoration for whatever crap they want to throw in our faces is downright insane. They didn't give us this damned game. We didn't get paid to spend hundreds of hours playing the previous games, much less for whatever time we spend on ME3. We don't owe them ****. They owe us. They owe us for the way we have, in the past, spread word of their games and encouraged our friends and family to play them. They owe us for preordering their games for no other reason than we blindly trusted them to give us what they have always given us in the past. They owe us for the multiple copies of their games we've bought as gifts or just so we can have them in other locations or available in other forms.
If this DLC doesn't fix this, then we need to get it into our heads that we should not "just be happy that" they gave us a squad reuinion or LI reunion even though they still didn't fix the major problems. We should not lower our expectations because they fail to deliver. That's a mistake because all BioWare will learn from it is that they can treat their fans like **** and produce games that leave us unhappy and we'll still shove our money at them. You don't reward failure and narcissism. You don't let companies that treat their customers with contempt ride on a reputation you helped build for them. No, instead, when they fail you...when they treat you with contempt...you make damn sure everyone you know hears about it and make that company understand that, while you did help them build a good reputation you can work just as hard to destroy it. That's the only way they get it, and it's the only way you ensure that companies will even attempt to do right by you.
/end annoyed rambling...
+1 for suming up everything I think about this crap.
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Benchpress610 wrote...
+3Landon7001 wrote...
sparkyo42 wrote...
EvilChani wrote...
atalair wrote...
as long im reunited with Tali im happy if that dont happens no more bioware products for me.
After playing ME3 through until almost the end and stopping because I had seen the "choices" you got and the utterly mind-boggingly stupid way the game ended, I told myself that, if they had had a scene where Shepard met Thane "across the sea", I could've stomached the rest of it and played the damned series again. Why? Because after seeing the endings, and seeing how they completely screwed the game with the forced autodialog, lack of distinction between Shepards, and forcing their "artistic view" down our throats (I'm sorry, the whole "the reapers are the good guys and just kill us so we don't kill ourselves!", and the starbrat bull**** is enough to make me puke and leaves me with the overwhelming need to shower the same way the third Matrix movie did), then I was desperate for anything that I could find redeeming about the series as a whole. And, at the very least, the reuniion between dead Shepard and dead Thane gave me a semblance of a happy, if bittersweet ending.
But you know what? As inviting as that sounds, it wouldn't have fixed the game's problems. The ending is still nerfed. They stripped out of ME3 a lot of the things that made the other two games good. They managed to make ME2 completely pointless. Their "artistic vision" sucks donkey balls and their arrogance and refusal to stop clinging to the idea that they're awesome and we're just too stupid to get it is no more than them verbally spitting in our faces after they screwed us out of our money under the promise that we would get something we did not get. As I said in an earlier post, we were told we were getting a chocolate torte - instead we got a turd pie. Them giving me a two second clip of dead Shepard with dead Thane won't change that. That damned starbrat is still there, the overabundance of autodialog remains, and, unless they actually changed the ending to fit what they had built the series toward, then the ending will still suck.
They were given the chance to fix things. An apology for not delivering what was promised (and what we had come to expect from BioWare) would have gone a long way in mending fences, and actually addressing what we told them time and again was the our real problems - and that is not that we needed "clarity" on their piece of crap artistic "vision" - would've made most of us let it go and call bygones bygones. Instead, they insulted us. They refused to acknowledge what we said if it didn't fit what they wanted. Then they give this damned podcast so they can insult us again and act like they paid attention to what we said when they completely ignored us. If someone goes into a restaurant and complains that there's a roach in their soup, you don't bring out more roaches and a few flies to throw in it, but that's basically what it seems they're doing.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this DLC will actually make the game better, but given that podcast I highly doubt it. And they have damaged my view of the company, regardless. Their utter contempt for any customers who dare not get on their knees and kiss their asses for being so incredibly genius to come up with this turd should be obvious to even the most deluded of us. And this idea that, somehow, we owe them respect and adoration for whatever crap they want to throw in our faces is downright insane. They didn't give us this damned game. We didn't get paid to spend hundreds of hours playing the previous games, much less for whatever time we spend on ME3. We don't owe them ****. They owe us. They owe us for the way we have, in the past, spread word of their games and encouraged our friends and family to play them. They owe us for preordering their games for no other reason than we blindly trusted them to give us what they have always given us in the past. They owe us for the multiple copies of their games we've bought as gifts or just so we can have them in other locations or available in other forms.
If this DLC doesn't fix this, then we need to get it into our heads that we should not "just be happy that" they gave us a squad reuinion or LI reunion even though they still didn't fix the major problems. We should not lower our expectations because they fail to deliver. That's a mistake because all BioWare will learn from it is that they can treat their fans like **** and produce games that leave us unhappy and we'll still shove our money at them. You don't reward failure and narcissism. You don't let companies that treat their customers with contempt ride on a reputation you helped build for them. No, instead, when they fail you...when they treat you with contempt...you make damn sure everyone you know hears about it and make that company understand that, while you did help them build a good reputation you can work just as hard to destroy it. That's the only way they get it, and it's the only way you ensure that companies will even attempt to do right by you.
/end annoyed rambling...
+1 for suming up everything I think about this crap.
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RainbowDazed wrote...
Tomorrow's the day! Must prepare with good snacks and an emergency bottle of whiskey.
RainbowDazed wrote...
Tomorrow's the day! Must prepare with good snacks and an emergency bottle of whiskey.
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