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[ABitPatchy]

 I would like to take this opportunity to thank the entire Bioware team for all their work over the last 5+ years.

Every single one of you has shaped something that will truly stand the test of time.

While the speedbumps, especially with this whole ending saga, have fristrated me... I can still appreciate the true masterpiece that is the Mass Effect series.

Most of my issues with the ending have been addresses, and a sense of closure has settled over me.

I really loved the reworked music, you guys should do a vinyl LP release of some of th best music from Mass Effect in my opinion... I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

I have never felt myself so invested in the lives, trials and tribulations of digital characters as I have been with those in the Mass Effect series.

I really enjoyed the Extended Cut, and I look forward to seeing what the future holds for the Bioware team, the Mass Effect Universe and HOPEFULLY Commander Shepherd.

No other company clearly cares about its fan base as much as you guys, and it really shows.

Thanks once again.

Modifié par ABitPatchy, 27 juin 2012 - 07:21 .

[Redbelle]

Going through the catalyst dialogue wheel, I found an option that I immediately clicked. When talking about destroy that option was, 'I Want More Details"!

It's like BW knew what the problem was and put in the collective desire of fans into one little phrase.

[Jikendor]

It's June 27th...

[RinuCZ]

killbot92 wrote...

Bioware's URL http://masseffect.bi...t/extended_cut/ says you have to start from the "Legacy" autosave you get after completing the game. I restarted from my original pre-Cerberus save. Do I need to restart from the autosave? Or, am I good with the original save (pre-Cerberus attack)?

Original pre-Cerberus base save should be fine. The main point is that your EMS is fixed and counted at that point and that's why you have to start there. It doesn't matter if you use Legend save or "old" one.
Have fun!

Modifié par RinuCZ, 27 juin 2012 - 08:12 .

[ArmedWhiteShark]

Just finished playing through the game again, this time with Extended Cut (finally)!

Before, I was of the notion that while the endings weren't as good as I thought they'd be, they were still OK. Now, the game I originally gave a solid 10/10 is getting a very solid 15/10. Between Hackett's new line, the Krogan babies (YES!), and the modified run to the Citadel beam, I practically fell out of my chair from excitement!

I have never been so utterly satisfied with a DLC that I run to the other end of the house, grab my younger brother who's also playing ME3, and drag him back to see the content. Everything feels so much more complete and fleshed out, and I think everyone here knows we owe all of that to your excellent view on criticism.

All in all, thank you Bioware for creating the Extended Cut. Before I felt like I finished a game; now I feel like I finished a trilogy. Keelah Se'lai !

Modifié par ArmedWhiteShark, 27 juin 2012 - 08:20 .

[DrPepzilla]

There's a new option where you can do nothing. Let the cycle continue. And let everyone die. (UBER SPOILER ALERT) Shooting the God Child/Star Child/Catalyst Kid begins it if it's not selected in the dialogue that you reject all the choices.

[jdranetz]

 Not to give too much away.  The ending DLC does provide hope in some senarios. At least, for civilization building, and the repair of the relays.  I had hoped I would have been able to marry Liara in a wedding and receptions scenes (Like in Star Trek: Nemisis, [Troi and Riker]). :-(  Or lounging chaises with the gang at the beach, drinking Coronas(as in those TV ads).  Can't have everything.  The real shock, I think for many of us, was that many of us made Shepard into our own likeness.  The Mass Effect series is THE most emersive gaming experience of all time.  The stages of mourning reactions should be seen as a proof of the skillful artistry Bioware put in these games.  Bioware, please take the painful reactions as a compliment.  Only because the game was that good, people were able to emotionally bond with their shepards, and the main characters of the game.   

[Voodoo2015]

* Spoiler with the capital S *

BW about the Endings. As you said, it is the same endigs that you had before. An it is the same crapy endings as before. You have done them better not good, but better. Still do not like Them but can live with Them. Because I know you will not change anything. You listened to what you wanted to hear and what you. The changes you did are good you did what you could. The new ending well what can I say about it, you gave us a new ending, anyway.

Control ending: You will continue to live as the new Catalyst.

The ending begins just as it was like before. You go limping toward your goal when you suddenly can move around as you were undamaged. It dissolves into atoms like before. You will get an cutscens as you got without EC dlc. You will now see new cutscens. You get to hear how Hacket gives the order to withdraw. You'll see how Joker persuaded by your friends that they must leave. You'll see when the rest of the fleet withdraws. More inside from The Normandy before they land on the planet and three of your friends get off The Normandy. You get an explanation by Shepard who has become the new Catalyst, what has happened and will happen to the others, how he will protect rather than destroy blah blah blah. You will also see all your friends come together to put Camander Shepard name on the KIA board on the Crewdeck. Then they fly away into the sunset.

Synthetic ending: You will die.

The ending begins just as it was like before. You go limping toward your goal when you suddenly begin to run when your healers have with yo. What wait no, that's a different game. Forget I wrote that! It dissolves into atoms like before. You will get an cutscens as you got without EC dlc. You will now see new cutscens. You get to hear how Hacket gives the order to withdraw. You'll see how Joker persuaded by your friends that they must leave. You'll see when the rest of the fleet withdraws. More inside from The Normandy before they land on the planet and three of your friends get off The Normandy. But this time, you get an explanation from EDI just as Shepard did on Cotrol ending. Of course with a few twists. You will also see all your friends come together to put Camander Shepard name on the KIA board on the Crewdeck. Then they fly away into the sunset.

Destruction Ending: You will die.

The ending begins just as it was like before. You go limping toward your goal when you suddenly start to go normal. You will get the cutscens as you got without EC dlc. You will now see new cutscens. You get to hear how Hacket gives the order to withdraw. You'll see how Joker persuaded by your friends that they must leave. You'll see when the rest of the fleet withdraws. More inside from The Normandy before they land on the planet and three of your friends get off The Normandy. This time, you get the explanation of the Hacket just as EDI and Shep before him. Of course with a few twists. You will also see all your friends come together to put Camander Shepard name on the KIA board on the Crewdeck. Then they fly away into the sunset.


Refusal ending: We will lose the war and everyone will die.

Now as I said before, you can get an detailed explanation what Catalyst mean and what IT is. Ok they are trying to explain it to you. This endinging is so simple to get, yes believe me it is not as difficult to get like the others ;-) You just have to listen .... Suffer you through what The Catalyst says and refuse everything.

Catalyst: You can destroy almost all synthetic life becaurse the Cruseble is not perfect, you're partially synthetic you'r self. Have That in mind. All you need to do is go to the pipe over there and shoot.

Shep: No, no, I do not want to destroy all of them then mutch job, god, I that walk that far? "Shep roll his eyes" And then there's a small thing. I don't want to die.

Catalyst: You can always control them by letting your energy merge with ours. But I warn you you will die. Do not really want change places with you but I have no choice.

Shep: No, I can't do that. It sounds disgusting .. merge Shep shiver. And as I get the there's a small thing. I don't want to die. So no thanks next choice.

Catalyst: "Face Palm" Just jump into the dame beam and you will merge all synthetic life with organic. But you will die!

Shep: Nope not a chance! did you not hear me! I don't want to DIE

Catalyst: Ok this is you'r choice the cycle will continue. But I warn you everyone will die.

Shep: Yeah, I'll change that, we will find a way. Becaurse we always do.

We get a cutscen with Dr. Liara T'Soni is a VI as it on Ilos. She will explain what happens next after Shep refuse and leaves The Catalyst. She was talking about how we failed in our cycle, and how pointless it was to for  all of us to came together and fought in the war. She does this becaurse to others in their cycle shall not make the same mistake as we did in ours. God, how foolish Shepard "Face Palm" so damn selfish. If he hadn't complained at the end. Then would only Shepard die note all of the races.

If you have not been able to download EC DLC or don't want to either. Then you can see them here. Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut DLC Endings.

Must say that they listened a little, anyway. Now we have two endings and not one ending with some twists. If I will continue to buy more from the ME series Probably not. But I applaud you did what you could. You made the endings better, not great but good. I do not like the endings but not as much as I thought I would do. Maybe I will play it again. Thanks for trying BW.

Modifié par Voodoo2015, 27 juin 2012 - 09:45 .

[Jvolikas]

I'm just gonna put my $.02 in, spoilers will obviously be included throughout the post:

First, I liked the Normandy being shown extracting your squadmates before the beam. I had Garrus and Ashley with me (how I finished ME1, just felt right to use them again) and while Liara was my LI it was nice to have a goodbye moment with them. Liara and Javik were the 2 squaddies in my original ending that walked out of the Normandy so I never had the whole "My squadmates blew up and now they're on the Normandy" bit, but I'm glad Bioware addressed those who did have it occur.

Second, it was great to have more dialogue with StarBrat. Yes you still have to follow his crap but at least you put up a good argument and it doesnt feel quite so random and acceptable anymore. Loved when StarBrat says "I dont look forward to being replaced by you....", great delivery there.

Third, I also appreciated that they put in scenes explaining Joker's departure. Personally, I figured pre-EC that Joker had either been given orders from Hackett, Anderson, or Liara to take off at somepoint or that he was just trying to outrun a massive explosion, so I never had the whole "Joker abandoned me" mindset that some did. That said, it was nice to see it officially on-screen.

Fourth, the Reject ending was a cool addition to have on there. Hearing "SO BE IT" was a nice twist and I loved being able to tell StarBrat "No, we will end this OUR way"....and then nothing happened. I understand that it couldnt really accomplish anything but I still would have liked to see SOME kind of action afterwards. So much wasted opportunity there. Liara's capsule was cool though.

As for the other endings, I still picked Destroy. Control just doesnt feel like what my Shepard would do (though it was nice to see Meer do the narration afterwards) and while the galaxy does seem to have peace again there's just too much worry that something will happen and the Reapers will come back anyway. Doesnt feel like I "won". Synthesis is still a mess and NOT the ideal solution. Shepard even said on the beam that it wasnt a decision he could make, rewriting everybody like that and yet its still jammed down our throats as the "best" solution. Well just because the narration has everybody look green afterwards and gaining the "collective knowledge of past species" does NOT make me feel better that I violated everyone's free will. I cant believe the galaxy would actually just go "Oh! look! I'm green now!" and thats it. What a load of crap. So for me, I picked Destroy because it makes the most sense. Your objective has been to destroy the Reapers and so thats exactly what I'm gonna do. Sure, it sucked that the Geth and EDI died (nice touch having EDI on the memorial wall) but war does require sacrifice. EDI would have gladly given her life if it meant stopping the Reapers so I can make peace with that in my head at least. Plus, Hackett's narration afterwards is awesome.

Following the Destroy ending it was nice to see fates of some characters resolved. I got to know my entire crew was safe on the Normandy (THANK YOU FOR HAVING IT LEAVE THE JUNGLE! My single worst issue with the endings after not knowing the fate of the relays) and saw other faces too. Zaeed retired, Samara survived, Jacob looked to be giving a speech, Wrex and Eve holding little Mordin on Tuchanka (proof that the relays weren't that badly damaged), Grunt looked okay, Kasumi was alive. I didnt see Jack, Miranda, or Kirrahe like I had wanted to, but it sounds like everybody got slightly different slides so I can live with that. I do wish that SOMETHING had been done with the Shepard breath scene but at least now I can have hope that someday Shep and Liara will have those little blue babies afterall. The memorial wall scene was a great addition as well.

Overall, I give ME3 8/10 now because I know the fates of characters for the most part and how the galaxy goes on after ME3. That said, everything we saw should have been included in the first place and I cant believe it took the fan response to get it included. Honestly, who thought that the original endings actually RESOLVED anything? At least now we know life does go on somewhat. But, good job Bioware. I'm still going to be wary of future purchases from you but I will not 100% rule it out like I did before. Thank you all for reading!

[Heldarion]

Upon playing the extended cut, I realized that the original ending killed any feelings for the game I could have, as extended cut simply didn't evoke any bloody thing. Now I know that the feelings I had when playing the original ending were feelings of death.

I'm in disbelief as to how such an amazing series (and I didn't even play ME1) could come to such a disastrous end. I think folks at Bioware should realize some truth in the name of Shakespeare's play "All's well that ends well". And by that, I don't mean a cheesy happy ending, but an ending I could be happy with.

[ArthurVon]

[Buckapocka]

BioWare did a pretty f***g good job with this DLC!

Well done Guys!

[Slashout]

I was very pissed, but I just tried the detsroy ending, which is much more to my taste... I guess I am less pissed off now.
The destroy ending was close to what I wantedn there is a futur for the galactic civilisation, Shepard survives... So... Well... we'll see.
I might forgive Bioware.

Modifié par Slashout, 27 juin 2012 - 12:09 .

[Kir_Prime]

I haven't played EC myself yet, but I watched endings and few moments of gameplay. All i could tell is if the game was in this condition right after release my dissapointment was 40-60% lower, than it was. I still dislike original idea of how ME3 ends, but it is much much better now and more interesting, than it was before (especially "SO be it" phrase.). I know you worked amazingly hard to bring EC for your fans, I will thank you for your job, for time you spent on it and I am asking only one thing - try to avoid in future to provide content, that will bring really bad mood and disspointment for customer like the Revan book and ME3 ending, I felt the same both times. So may the Force be with you, Bioware. I think I will try your games in future. It's just a pity I will not play ME3 campaign again from the begining...

[Redbelle]

Not strictly related to the ECDLC but relevant as apparently we got little bits of dialogue in the 1.9gb download.

The next SP DLC?

http://www.videogame...er_content.html

[Thanatos144]

I liked the original ending so this one was more of a pleasant expansion.....I like the explanations cause they are as I always knew them to be so there wasn't any surprises in that part. The battle scenes were cool and I dont remember Hacket saying correctly they we couldn't beat the reapers conventionally before. This will be a good ending for those who didn't understand the endings and those who did but wanted more closure.....But for the extreme haters they will still hate. It is all they know. Most likely they didn't even play the game.

[Sword30210]

I would have liked if they would have done SOMETHING with the Shepard breath scene, but otherwise: damn good job bioware! I can finally play the game again!

[Thanatos144]

Sword30210 wrote...

I would have liked if they would have done SOMETHING with the Shepard breath scene, but otherwise: damn good job bioware! I can finally play the game again!

I disagree they should make it so you never really know if Shepard is alive or dead. It is how myths are made.

[KiganMatsuei]

Thanatos144 wrote...

I liked the original ending so this one was more of a pleasant expansion.....I like the explanations cause they are as I always knew them to be so there wasn't any surprises in that part. The battle scenes were cool and I dont remember Hacket saying correctly they we couldn't beat the reapers conventionally before. This will be a good ending for those who didn't understand the endings and those who did but wanted more closure.....But for the extreme haters they will still hate. It is all they know. Most likely they didn't even play the game.

Making such crude generalizations about those unwilling to overlook the remaining plot holes and such doesn't make their concerns any less valid.

[SolidSolidino]

Synthetis ending it's the best ending for me.
The cylce is broken up at least.
Reapers were invincibles, this is the only possible solution.
All species coexists and help each others, even Reapers.
And they lived happily ever after XD

[Thanatos144]

KiganMatsuei wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

I liked the original ending so this one was more of a pleasant expansion.....I like the explanations cause they are as I always knew them to be so there wasn't any surprises in that part. The battle scenes were cool and I dont remember Hacket saying correctly they we couldn't beat the reapers conventionally before. This will be a good ending for those who didn't understand the endings and those who did but wanted more closure.....But for the extreme haters they will still hate. It is all they know. Most likely they didn't even play the game.

Making such crude generalizations about those unwilling to overlook the remaining plot holes and such doesn't make their concerns any less valid.

There are no plot holes. There are only your misunderstanding that this was not your story to tell but Biowares.

[Thanatos144]

SolidSolidino wrote...

Synthetis ending it's the best ending for me.
The cylce is broken up at least.
Reapers were invincibles, this is the only possible solution.
All species coexists and help each others, even Reapers.
And they lived happily ever after XD

Yea I call it the classic RPG ending LOL You find big magic and change
everything. I can see why some dont like it cause it is the most fantastic one to believe but it is the most fun.

[KiganMatsuei]

Thanatos144 wrote...

KiganMatsuei wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

I liked the original ending so this one was more of a pleasant expansion.....I like the explanations cause they are as I always knew them to be so there wasn't any surprises in that part. The battle scenes were cool and I dont remember Hacket saying correctly they we couldn't beat the reapers conventionally before. This will be a good ending for those who didn't understand the endings and those who did but wanted more closure.....But for the extreme haters they will still hate. It is all they know. Most likely they didn't even play the game.

Making such crude generalizations about those unwilling to overlook the remaining plot holes and such doesn't make their concerns any less valid.

There are no plot holes. There are only your misunderstanding that this was not your story to tell but Biowares.

If believing that makes you feel better.

If the only way to keep Shepard as he was is to cause the extinction of the entire current galactic civilization suits you, be my guest.

But remember, they set this game up so we would choose how the story unfolded. This is not Final Fantasy or other such games, where the story is set in stone no matter how many times you play.

[Omeganian]

So, we have another unmasked quarian, flirting with a geth. And a krogan baby! (squee! I love babies!)

BTW, these floating seeds when the Normandy rises... was that an Avatar allusion?

Pity the destruction ending STILL doesn't show what happens to Shepard.

[Tobigans]

Well,

I am one of those who initially picked the Synthetic Ending, since I could not bring myself to wipe out the geth and EDI along with the Reapers. Apart from all the inconsistencies the original Ending suffered from, it was the feeling of getting the floor yanked away from under my feet as nothing was explained and I never even got to see the surviving squadmates again. I never really thought Shepard would survive to get that house with Tali or the little blue children with Liara. But I was expecting some closure.

I do have that now. Thank you.

I'm still not sure about merging all DNA with tech and quite dislike the space magic it took for it to happen in the blink of an eye. I still feel the whole galaxy working together for the first time should open the possibility of victory without having to put up with green implants for everybody. I still abhor starchild and the deus ex machina theme being introduced so late into the story. I still don't get the inevetability of eternal conflict between organics and machines. I still...well I guess what has been sad for months now by so many others...

Still,

Thank you.

The new endings, even flawed as they are, touched me and now let me appreciate what Shepard has been fighting for all along.
To say it didn't take much for this to happen would be an understatement, since it took quite the struggle on the part of those holding the line and surely on the part of Bioware as well. To imagine all that (justified) hate being directed my way gives me the shivers.

In my opinion Bioware delivered on their promise and even for free although this DLC certainly took some time effort on their part. When I say they delivered I don't mean they fully met the expectations, but they did do so definitely more than before EC. The compromise achieved here is much more than I dared to hope for in April. So as far as I am concerned Bioware is forgiven though on probation for the next few games.

That is all.

Exept:

Thank you, Bioware.

And even more: Thank you, everbody, for holding the line for so long to make this possible.