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[Voodoo2015]

Thanatos144 wrote...

Last time in the thread seeing as I am upsetting some children.......Just saying loved the ending and the game.

Just be civilized, then all will work out. Let us have our opinion, then we will let you have your opinion. There is no reason to attack personal opinions.

[3DandBeyond]

Redbelle wrote...

The thing is........ in control...... Shepards dialogue sounded a bit......... distant from him/herself.

And to say that Shep personality is, for lack of a better term, encased in amber and will not change, either in motivation or outlook according to events makes me see ConShep in a fixed, unmoving state that cannot adapt.

This is the thing the ugh kid voice changy god boy, is in this state as we see him.  He dodges the question of his creators and denies further exploration as to give him even some context.  What he is now is explained.  What he was is never explored.  We have no understanding (unless I missed it) of his origins.  We know the purpose he was given to do.  But, we also see that this purpose is now offered to Shepard.  Was the kid originally more than just a "program"?  Was he organic and then forced to be the Catalyst and could that be why he turned on his creators?  Not out of hate, because I think he lacks feeling, which I think would be gone from Shepard.  I think that was the lesson of EDI that in order to become alive and feel, she needed at least to be freed.

It might be that at first the Catalyst thought what he was doing was good-he may have been like Shepard and maybe that was why they continually sought Shepard.  But after time maybe the Catalyst just went crazy, like the AI on the Citadel that was skimming money so he could get onto a geth ship.  All I am saying that just because Shepard has had good motives does not mean they will always be that way.  The kid still basically adheres to his creator's intent, he just bent the hell out of it.  He speaks about balance between organics and synthetics and I still assert that Shepard has been able to achieve that already.  Harmony and balance are basically at the core the same thing. 

And then when the kid says that the reapers aren't concerned or don't care about war, well since he's controlling them the point is moot.  It's obvious that what is going on is chaotic even if he sees it as temporary.  More proof he's come unglued.

[3DandBeyond]

BlueStorm83 wrote...

RamilVenoard wrote...

BlueStorm83 wrote...

--- Breaking news??? I just read an article out there saying that the Extended Cut isn't the last Extension out there...

Apparently, there's a new Single Player DLC in the works. It involves going to a dig site on a planet (This is usually a lot of fun, and turns out well for Shep!) where we're trying to find a scientist or something to help with the war effort. Long story short: we meet a Reaper named Leviathan. Sounds interesting to me. They also say it can give us a hell of a War Asset if we play our cards right...

Will there be Miri in it? Gimme Miri or GTFO! Lol I kid but this could be quite interesting. Especially if Leviathan is more focused upon rhetoric like Sovereign, and less focused upon being an annoying **** like Harby.

Seriously, how is it that the first reaper made me quake in my chair simply by speaking, and the lead reaper made me just laugh? But that being said, I'd buy this. And I'd pay double if it meant they stopped screwing over people who had ME2 LIs...

Actually, if what I read is true, Leviathan is focussed on beating the moronic little **** who turned him into a Reaper in the first place, since apparently whatever damage he suffered severed him from the Reaper Collective Intelligence, and he regained free thought.

Well this may be the true form of the Catalyst's creators-Leviathans.  The reference to them is to the giant corpse of a genetically engineered starship found and moved by the Batarians.  Perhaps they will tie it in with that eccentric Volus's search for the crypts of the beings of light.  At present what I got from it is this is a dig site, so perhaps the crypts.  The kid didn't want to talk about his creators much-said there was no time and becomes very Sovereign-like in claiming Shepard wouldn't understand (I think he says)-but Shepard might take his place so doesn't Shepard have the right to know?

[shodiswe]

I've only tried shooting the catalyst and destroying the reapers so far, but I approve the the changes to the ending. It's better than the original. Certainly feels less rushed.

(didn't know shooting at the catalyst would have that effect after the EC, that ti woudl care about it) anyway I liked that addition. It gave weight to the whole situation.

I'll check out the other endign later or tomorrow, got a few other things to do now    It's a deffinate improvement.

Modifié par shodiswe, 27 juin 2012 - 06:07 .

[3DandBeyond]

Thanatos144 wrote...

Last time in the thread seeing as I am upsetting some children.......Just saying loved the ending and the game.

You know Thanatos, I'm actually glad you have what you wanted.  I know you dislike me and you did so immediately because I stated complaints I had over a product I bought. 

I've tried to even discuss things with you, but when someone disagrees with you, you can't accept that doesn't mean they hate you, they just disagree.  All anyone ever wanted was a modicum of respect, not one liners meant to be unkind.  That doesn't mean you worship others or that you agree with them or that you even like everything they say, but it means decency, just not saying something meant to provoke or upset and having a discussion.  You have a right to your opinion, but don't laugh when someone says they aren't happy-I don't find someone else's unhappiness something to ridicule.  Just be decent.  You get what you give.  You can decide to make this a starting point as will I.  Otherwise, I really won't comment anymore on anything you say.  If however you can offer to respect my opinion, I do now offer to respect yours.

[seitani]

One thing is for sure if you play renegade shepard who hates synthetics your choice is easy for paragon its not...

I haven't figured out yet which choice is good for paragon shepard playthrough.

Modifié par seitani, 27 juin 2012 - 06:17 .

[Changonauta]

well i liked the EC, the endings gived me closure, good work Bioware

[RamilVenoard]

seitani wrote...

One thing is for sure if you play renegade shepard who hates synthetics your choice is easy for paragon its not...

This was a REALLY tough decision for me. I'm an almost pure paragon so much so, in fact, that I was able to convince TIM to cap himself.  Prior to the EC I always went control to "be the one that died to save the many" but after the EC I now go synthesis. Yes it's still space magic, but I can overlook the lore-breaking elements of the ending because I've created a brave new world that will stand together and face the universe united.  Also the EC clarified my main problem with Synthesis which was that it appeared to homogenize everything in the galaxy, which is apparently not the case in the least.

I also sacraficed myself to give Miranda an entirely new galaxy filled with possibility and beauty.  Well worth it.

[PuppiesOfDeath2]

What the endings really mean:

Control: You fought your way through the Thorian, Sovereign, Saren, the Geth, Collectors and Cerberus. For what? So you can be the foreman on a series of construction projects for the buddies you left behind who are, by the way, all out partying on beaches and dancing in Afterlife. When you are not doing that, you are the equivalent of a third grade teacher breaking up fights between squabbling children. Oh, and even though the Reapers have to do what you tell them, after all you've been through with them, you know deep down, they hate you. P.S. Someone else is now sleeping with your love interest. Embrace eternity.

Synthesis: For three games you've been fighting against hulking machines purging the galaxy of all organic life. The enemy is a group of machines that are part organic and part synthetic. So you beat them by....wait for it...turning every living creature into an organic/synthetic concoction. Plus, everyone you know now has big green eyes. If they also grew red hair, they'd be Irish. So basically, you make everyone Irish. Also, meals now take hours. It's like eating unboned fish. "Waiter, there is a capacitor in my salad!"

Destroy: You've spent at least a game and a half learning that what separates your electric toothbrush from a sentient being is self-awareness leading to a "soul." It is a good thing you've been brushing up on your buddhist discourse. You're going to need it. Enter the biggest bully on the galactic playground, StarBrat. He's after a lot more than your lunch money, by the way. And, he's a clever kid too. Showing early aptitude, StarBrat has figured out that you might actually want to kill him off along with all of his Reaper pals. Obviously, a future Mensa member. You can get rid of the Scut Farcus of video games and all of his giant shrimp machines, but you have to kill off all of your new "soul-mates" to do it. Why? Because StarBrat says so, that's why. Duh! As sad as that is, at least after your done, you get to dig out of your personal rubble pile, dust yourself off and go watch a football game with Ashley (you know she loves football), or a National Geographic special with Liara. You get the picture. Plus, you won't miss any of your favorite shows from now on because you know you're not going to be in any Mass Effect sequels. In honor of your lost friend, you name your flatscreen "EDI."

Reject/"The Finger": Let's be honest. The best parts of the "original endings" of Mass Effect 3 were StarBrat, a gun, and unlimited ammo! Even more funny was watching YouTube video after YouTube video of people shooting StarBrat over and over and over again. Apparently, this moment of player improvisational freedom was not appreciated by certain Mass Effect 3 "ending writers." Shoot the StarBrat now and it's time for the biggest temper tantrum in galactic history (for both StarBrat and the writers). BratBoy screams, pouts, and takes his Reaper toys home along with all organic life. Except the Yagh. (By the way, don't Google 'Yagh.' Trust me.) We didn't spend a lot of time with the Yagh in the Broker DLC. But I do remember his twitchy ears. After watching what happens now when you shoot the StarBrat, I suspect that there are some other people at BioWare who also have twitchy ears. Just sayin'. The good news is that, like all Brats, Star and otherwise, eventually someone kicks their butt. It just won't be you. Or your friends. Or anyone else you know. It will be a big fat Yagh. With twitchy ears.

So you see, what could there possibly be to complain about?

[RamilVenoard]

PuppiesOfDeath2 wrote...

What the endings really mean:

Control: You fought your way through the Thorian, Sovereign, Saren, the Geth, Collectors and Cerberus. For what? So you can be the foreman on a series of construction projects for the buddies you left behind who are, by the way, all out partying on beaches and dancing in Afterlife. When you are not doing that, you are the equivalent of a third grade teacher breaking up fights between squabbling children. Oh, and even though the Reapers have to do what you tell them, after all you've been through with them, you know deep down, they hate you. P.S. Someone else is now sleeping with your love interest. Embrace eternity.

Synthesis: For three games you've been fighting against hulking machines purging the galaxy of all organic life. The enemy is a group of machines that are part organic and part synthetic. So you beat them by....wait for it...turning every living creature into an organic/synthetic concoction. Plus, everyone you know now has big green eyes. If they also grew red hair, they'd be Irish. So basically, you make everyone Irish. Also, meals now take hours. It's like eating unboned fish. "Waiter, there is a capacitor in my salad!"

Destroy: You've spent at least a game and a half learning that what separates your electric toothbrush from a sentient being is self-awareness leading to a "soul." It is a good thing you've been brushing up on your buddhist discourse. You're going to need it. Enter the biggest bully on the galactic playground, StarBrat. He's after a lot more than your lunch money, by the way. And, he's a clever kid too. Showing early aptitude, StarBrat has figured out that you might actually want to kill him off along with all of his Reaper pals. Obviously, a future Mensa member. You can get rid of the Scut Farcus of video games and all of his giant shrimp machines, but you have to kill off all of your new "soul-mates" to do it. Why? Because StarBrat says so, that's why. Duh! As sad as that is, at least after your done, you get to dig out of your personal rubble pile, dust yourself off and go watch a football game with Ashley (you know she loves football), or a National Geographic special with Liara. You get the picture. Plus, you won't miss any of your favorite shows from now on because you know you're not going to be in any Mass Effect sequels. In honor of your lost friend, you name your flatscreen "EDI."

Reject/"The Finger": Let's be honest. The best parts of the "original endings" of Mass Effect 3 were StarBrat, a gun, and unlimited ammo! Even more funny was watching YouTube video after YouTube video of people shooting StarBrat over and over and over again. Apparently, this moment of player improvisational freedom was not appreciated by certain Mass Effect 3 "ending writers." Shoot the StarBrat now and it's time for the biggest temper tantrum in galactic history (for both StarBrat and the writers). BratBoy screams, pouts, and takes his Reaper toys home along with all organic life. Except the Yagh. (By the way, don't Google 'Yagh.' Trust me.) We didn't spend a lot of time with the Yagh in the Broker DLC. But I do remember his twitchy ears. After watching what happens now when you shoot the StarBrat, I suspect that there are some other people at BioWare who also have twitchy ears. Just sayin'. The good news is that, like all Brats, Star and otherwise, eventually someone kicks their butt. It just won't be you. Or your friends. Or anyone else you know. It will be a big fat Yagh. With twitchy ears.

So you see, what could there possibly be to complain about?

Have you ever considered a career in comedic writing or stand-up? Cause this is friggen hilarious. In a good way, of course, because I agree on most of your points.  But I disagree on Synthesis: you do not homogenize the galaxy.. organics advance via technological upgrade, and synthetics have perfect understanding of organic conscience, free will, and emotion.  It's the forfiture of one old world for a brighter tomorrow.  That being said, Shep is a bit of an a*s for choosing it since he meddles with every creature in the galaxy on a molecular level without first asking... but I'm willing to live with that.

But before the EC I would have been with you 100%. I really hated those options.

Modifié par RamilVenoard, 27 juin 2012 - 06:45 .

[Voodoo2015]

PuppiesOfDeath2 wrote...

What the endings really mean:

Control: You fought your way through the Thorian, Sovereign, Saren, the Geth, Collectors and Cerberus. For what? So you can be the foreman on a series of construction projects for the buddies you left behind who are, by the way, all out partying on beaches and dancing in Afterlife. When you are not doing that, you are the equivalent of a third grade teacher breaking up fights between squabbling children. Oh, and even though the Reapers have to do what you tell them, after all you've been through with them, you know deep down, they hate you. P.S. Someone else is now sleeping with your love interest. Embrace eternity.

Synthesis: For three games you've been fighting against hulking machines purging the galaxy of all organic life. The enemy is a group of machines that are part organic and part synthetic. So you beat them by....wait for it...turning every living creature into an organic/synthetic concoction. Plus, everyone you know now has big green eyes. If they also grew red hair, they'd be Irish. So basically, you make everyone Irish. Also, meals now take hours. It's like eating unboned fish. "Waiter, there is a capacitor in my salad!"

Destroy: You've spent at least a game and a half learning that what separates your electric toothbrush from a sentient being is self-awareness leading to a "soul." It is a good thing you've been brushing up on your buddhist discourse. You're going to need it. Enter the biggest bully on the galactic playground, StarBrat. He's after a lot more than your lunch money, by the way. And, he's a clever kid too. Showing early aptitude, StarBrat has figured out that you might actually want to kill him off along with all of his Reaper pals. Obviously, a future Mensa member. You can get rid of the Scut Farcus of video games and all of his giant shrimp machines, but you have to kill off all of your new "soul-mates" to do it. Why? Because StarBrat says so, that's why. Duh! As sad as that is, at least after your done, you get to dig out of your personal rubble pile, dust yourself off and go watch a football game with Ashley (you know she loves football), or a National Geographic special with Liara. You get the picture. Plus, you won't miss any of your favorite shows from now on because you know you're not going to be in any Mass Effect sequels. In honor of your lost friend, you name your flatscreen "EDI."

Reject/"The Finger": Let's be honest. The best parts of the "original endings" of Mass Effect 3 were StarBrat, a gun, and unlimited ammo! Even more funny was watching YouTube video after YouTube video of people shooting StarBrat over and over and over again. Apparently, this moment of player improvisational freedom was not appreciated by certain Mass Effect 3 "ending writers." Shoot the StarBrat now and it's time for the biggest temper tantrum in galactic history (for both StarBrat and the writers). BratBoy screams, pouts, and takes his Reaper toys home along with all organic life. Except the Yagh. (By the way, don't Google 'Yagh.' Trust me.) We didn't spend a lot of time with the Yagh in the Broker DLC. But I do remember his twitchy ears. After watching what happens now when you shoot the StarBrat, I suspect that there are some other people at BioWare who also have twitchy ears. Just sayin'. The good news is that, like all Brats, Star and otherwise, eventually someone kicks their butt. It just won't be you. Or your friends. Or anyone else you know. It will be a big fat Yagh. With twitchy ears.

So you see, what could there possibly be to complain about?

Haha Love it man. You just made my evening!

[kimva]

Great work BioWare. I like EC)

[3DandBeyond]

@PuppiesofDeath2,
You made my day. Hits the points exactly and had me laughing.

[PuppiesOfDeath2]

3DandBeyond wrote...

@PuppiesofDeath2,
You made my day. Hits the points exactly and had me laughing.

Thanks to all of you guys for your generous remarks.  It was fun to write.  Cathartic too.

[sAxMoNkI]

The more I consider what I saw in the EC and the more it sinks in the more I think that I really liked it. Most importantly because the 4 choices now feel distinct and the advantages and disadvantages are easier to contrast I think it leads to a far more diffcult moral choice.
I think it's largely because of this that I'm now interested in replaying the game a few more times to try out different playstyles. In short, good work Bioware I think you've done good

[DarthSliver]

EC good work but everything that shouldve been on the disc when ME3 was released. I dont know if i should have faith in Bioware still after this because it clearly shows ME3 wouldve came out strong if it was only pushed back a couple more months. Whats sad about the EC is we probably wouldnt have this now if it werent for the fans

[Voodoo2015]

Here is an article ( about the DLC endings ) Very well written. deal with some issues that I have.

[lajeokki]

Great work Bioware. I'm your loyal customer again so please take my money and create moar epic rpg like Mass Effect!

[Blade37rus]

That DLC IS AWESOME!!!EPIC!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
nah,just kidding dlc is more stupid **** than it was without it
just do ****ing HAPPY ENDING DLC MILLIONS BUY IT!!! even for >20$

[RamilVenoard]

lajeokki wrote...

Great work Bioware. I'm your loyal customer again so please take my money and create moar epic rpg like Mass Effect!

But first, make some DLC for those of us who did romances in ME2! Cause you kinda screwed us on that note. But the EC was great! Made me actually go and start a new game all the way from ME1

[Voodoo2015]

Blade37rus wrote...

That DLC IS AWESOME!!!EPIC!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
nah,just kidding dlc is more stupid **** than it was without it
just do ****ing HAPPY ENDING DLC MILLIONS BUY IT!!! even for >20$

I'll ****ing by it!

The 4 ending was a slap in our face!

Modifié par Voodoo2015, 27 juin 2012 - 08:19 .

[Redbelle]

Voodoo2015 wrote...

Blade37rus wrote...

That DLC IS AWESOME!!!EPIC!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
nah,just kidding dlc is more stupid **** than it was without it
just do ****ing HAPPY ENDING DLC MILLIONS BUY IT!!! even for >20$

I'll ****ing by it!

The 4 ending was a slap in our face!

Wasn't the forth ending a direct result of player/forum feedback though?

I remember awhile back reading a guy who wrote that he wanted the option to toss the Cat's options in his face and go for broke with the EMS rating...... ok going for this option turned out to be not so hot for us but BW had a narrative in that the Reapers could not be defeated without the crucible and they stuck to that premise.

Also, I know I heard many ppl feedback to BW that they wanted an option to fail.......... like the suicide mission in ME2 where Shep dies. Only in the ME3 scenario the galaxy get's Reaped........

I also know that ppl raised the option to Liara's time capsule coming into play. Heck, I was one of them. I liked the idea then that the bonding/quiet time scene of Shep and Liara would have more context in that the device Liara built to tell the next cycle how cool Shep was would work......... I know my Shep would also have added the latest Blasto movies in there somewhere.

I admit that these scenes could have been expanded more. Halo Reach had an end level where your Spartan had to survive wave after wave of enemies whereby on being killed you got a cutscene of the Spartan getting shot, sliced, stabbed, bludgened etc etc........ and the Spartan just kept fighting back through all of it making the guys dishing out the damage taking it back 10 fold till Sparty disappeared under a mass of enemies.

[Archonsg]

Okies, finally fully completed all three endings and I had to take a step back and let it all sink in.
Now, I made no secret that I really hated the original ending and there are many valid reason why I did so.

So, please bear with me as I go through each and from each ending my thoughts on them.

I will have to say firstly though that while the many dialogues did in fact lessen the "wtf" moments and did try to explain or at least lessen the "wtf" reaction one had with the original ending it still boils down to this: Starbrat is a construct that is flawed. It created the first Reapers murdering the original organics that created it (starbrat).

Thus he fulfil his own "the created will always rebel against their creators" and then follows up by "reaping" sentient races every 50k years or so.

At this point, listening to it, it is obvious that it is insane.
So, thus we come to the one choice that would have made sense and kept true to Shepard's character whether Paragon or Renegade.

Reject.
Shepard, especially femshep delivered his her lines so beautifully, it was a fist pumping, tears to the eye moment.
Then, immediately following that high note, the middle finger.

Let me clarify that I went into the game with 15,000++ ems at 100% Galactic readiness. So EMS wasn't the issue.
Simply put, the writers just said "FU! Shepard is going to die, you wanted this "reject option" you got it!"

While I have to say that it was something I suggested, as I do remember posting a scenario exactly like this early on in the old "endings : we are listening" thread, it was a suggestion in context of a "no win scenario", meaning no matter what we did, Shepard dies, war is lost. And thus to see this ending used in context to the ending where Shepard is principly true to character, kept his integrity and honor, to see this "you die no matter what! Too bad!" is both sad and blatant in its message to us fans.

What that message is, I'll leave to your own interpretation.

I do recommend however talking to the catalyst and get Shepard to choose that REJECT all the above choices instead of agreeing then shooting the starbrat.
Trying to shoot the starbrat immediately puts it in "tantrum mode".
Shepard's lines are amazing. IF only for 10 seconds.

Then its game over. You all die, some other cycle with Liara's gift won the war against the reapers. *writers raspberry at you!*


Now assuming if you like me, don't care anymore about just how rediculous it is to accept ANY choice made and given by an insane contruct and "went with the flow" just to see what you get, both control and destroy has been cleaned up quite significantly.

Control probably the least revolting of the lot.
Since you do not have to betray the Geth, don't have to murder EDI and actually puts you in position to be the guardian of the galaxy.
Right.
Actually Control isn't half bad if you allow for some inconsistancies and pull a thicker wool of suspension of disbelief over your eyes.
So with that said, it was the ONLY one of the original three that I would have chosen, taking into consideration that you will be willfully ignoring the fact that you, both the player and Shepard now know that the Catalsyst ;

1) is insane
2) is flawed
3) would kill you if you do not follow its agenda (reject option for the player, it tells you that it murdered its creators to make them unwilling reapers for Shepard)


Anyways.
I am not going to go on with the other 2 options as while they are nicely done and actually make some sense now, they are still very much against what my Shepard stood and fought for.

IF I could ignore that little point.
Again, as I have said before, its a much better ending then what we originally got.

So.
Is the EC worth it.
Yes. I'd canon on the reject option, or maybe Control (if I figure my Shepard is stoned out of his mind due to battle fatique) and the EC did give a certain ammount of satisfaction based ont THOSE endings.
Would I replay the game, maybe.
It really depends on my mood, depending how tolerant I think I'll be feeling but it is for certain the endings as a whole, has rob me of any enthusiasm in wanting to replay the game much.

Bottom line, the message is clear from the writers that they want Shepard to die no mater what, I have no more interest in furthering the "middle portion" of this saga but always, in the end see Shepard die.


Thanks but I don't need to punish myself that way.

I do need to say thank you Bioware, for at least trying, though I am pretty sure there were a few digs at us fans, but whatever. You had your fun. 
Now I'll go find mine, elsewhere.

Modifié par Archonsg, 27 juin 2012 - 08:50 .

[Redbelle]

PuppiesOfDeath2 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

@PuppiesofDeath2,
You made my day. Hits the points exactly and had me laughing.

Thanks to all of you guys for your generous remarks.  It was fun to write.  Cathartic too.

lol, maybe the control ending should have had an extra ending.

Shreaper: Hi LI. I promised I'd come back to you!

LI: Holy space hoppers! You enormous!

Shreaper: I know alot's changed baby but I want you to know I still love you and want to make a go of it. All of us do.

LI: All of u......... What's that dreadnaught doing here?

Shreaper1: That's me too. We're watching you in Stereo.

Shreaper2: We want to get back together again. And him

Shreaper3: And me!

LI: But your as tall as a skyscraper! How are we supposed to take a walk in the park like this?

Shreaper1: Don't worry about the park. I kinda stepped on it earlier on my way here.

Shreaper 3: My bad!

[Voodoo2015]

Redbelle wrote...

Voodoo2015 wrote...


The 4 ending was a slap in our face!

Wasn't the forth ending a direct result of player/forum feedback though?

I remember awhile back reading a guy who wrote that he wanted the option to toss the Cat's options in his face and go for broke with the EMS rating...... ok going for this option turned out to be not so hot for us but BW had a narrative in that the Reapers could not be defeated without the crucible and they stuck to that premise.

Also, I know I heard many ppl feedback to BW that they wanted an option to fail.......... like the suicide mission in ME2 where Shep dies. Only in the ME3 scenario the galaxy get's Reaped........

I also know that ppl raised the option to Liara's time capsule coming into play. Heck, I was one of them. I liked the idea then that the bonding/quiet time scene of Shep and Liara would have more context in that the device Liara built to tell the next cycle how cool Shep was would work......... I know my Shep would also have added the latest Blasto movies in there somewhere.

I admit that these scenes could have been expanded more. Halo Reach had an end level where your Spartan had to survive wave after wave of enemies whereby on being killed you got a cutscene of the Spartan getting shot, sliced, stabbed, bludgened etc etc........ and the Spartan just kept fighting back through all of it making the guys dishing out the damage taking it back 10 fold till Sparty disappeared under a mass of enemies.

I was one of the who wanted a new ending.. adding to the other endings. I wanted a few of them.

But i did't want 4 endings who have the same conclusion ( death ).

All endings end the same Shepard dies.

In the fourth ending everyone dies. The fans wanted a new ending so we give them one the catch is that we kill them all It shows what they think about some of thier fans.