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Admiral Hackett told Joker to leave the fight and either go through the Sol relay/engage FTL


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Well, I just hope that it does Shepard's character justice. He needs to be the hero that he is. Or more so, I need him to be the hero that I know he is. Can't really say my feelings about ME series, but let me put it this way: there will never be a commander better than commander Shepard.

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The Angry One wrote...
Detailed minutae. The truly important part for me, the silly crash and the insipid Adam and Eve start over in Eden ending appears to have not changed. If that hasn't changed then everything else is pointless.

If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. No one will be happier than me if I am.

Most certainly will not have changed.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

While I understand you are guarded about what the EC will be, I do suggest until you play it or experience it in the full before you talk about how bad it is. If, having doe so, it still does not meet your expectations or it does (because they are negative and you believe we do not fix the issue) THEN complain about it.

The complaints are about the shot. You chose to show the shot to publicize the extended cut, which means it's something you wanted us to see.

We're working with what we know. When we know more, we'll obviously be able to complain about it in more detail.

But for now, "fall back to the rendezvous point" is all we have, and it doesn't satisfy.

Admiral Hackett: "It's time for Phase B of our plan. All forces, withdraw from the Crucible and give the Reapers a clear shot. They need to be able to take it down before it can fire!"

Modifié par devSin, 22 juin 2012 - 09:39 .


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devSin wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

While I understand you are guarded about what the EC will be, I do suggest until you play it or experience it in the full before you talk about how bad it is. If, having doe so, it still does not meet your expectations or it does (because they are negative and you believe we do not fix the issue) THEN complain about it.

The complaints are about the shot. You chose to show the shot to publicize the extended cut, which means it's something you wanted us to see.

We're working with what we know. When we know more, we'll obviously be able to complain about it in more detail.

But for now, "fall back to the rendezvous point" is all we have, and it doesn't satisfy.

Admiral Hackett: "It's time for Phase B of our plan. All forces, withdraw from the Crucible and give the Reapers a clear shot. They need to be able to take it down before it can fire!"


I basically agree with this.  If the shot was not meant to be discussed, then why release it?  And any worthwhile discussion is going to have differing viewpoints on the topic at hand, or else there isn't much point. 

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Not trying to start a big thing here, or for that matter argue for (or against) IT, but if what we see in the pics doesn't jive with the ending as we know it; couldn't that mean that what we saw through Shep wasn't what was really happening? I don't really see how this proves or disproves anything. It's just a couple of screenshots out of context.

Just sayin...

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From Scorcher 6 (tropic thunder trailer)

Here we go again..........again..... LOL

Cool so in those orders from Hackett, Joker had time to beam em up (squad mates next to me) Or fly by by and pick them up and then take a ****** on my sheps dead corpse and take off. F minus writing can only stay an F minus if you don't just do the "its all a dream/indoc thing) but these aren't the best writers in the world obviously.

Damn you doosh ex and Matrix, damn you to hell.

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Greed1914 wrote...

devSin wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

While I understand you are guarded about what the EC will be, I do suggest until you play it or experience it in the full before you talk about how bad it is. If, having doe so, it still does not meet your expectations or it does (because they are negative and you believe we do not fix the issue) THEN complain about it.

The complaints are about the shot. You chose to show the shot to publicize the extended cut, which means it's something you wanted us to see.

We're working with what we know. When we know more, we'll obviously be able to complain about it in more detail.

But for now, "fall back to the rendezvous point" is all we have, and it doesn't satisfy.

Admiral Hackett: "It's time for Phase B of our plan. All forces, withdraw from the Crucible and give the Reapers a clear shot. They need to be able to take it down before it can fire!"


I basically agree with this.  If the shot was not meant to be discussed, then why release it?  And any worthwhile discussion is going to have differing viewpoints on the topic at hand, or else there isn't much point. 


I think BioWare continues to misunderstand and underestimate it's fanbase, and thought that this shot would make the majority happy by giving an explanation for Joker's flight.

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lillitheris wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

We don't have any timeframe for how long it takes to reach it in control.
Also, the galaxy map cinematic is sped up and stylised.


…You assume.

I don’t really even understand what you‘re arguing for or against here. The scene makes no sense. None. It is impossible to ‘make it work’.


No, but the point is it's completely impossible for the Crucible wave to have caught up with the Normandy if it was using ship FTL.


I disagree, it’s possible. We know different engines produce different FTL speeds, and therefore the wave only needs to have traveled EvenFTL. It doesn’t make sense, but it’s possible.

Also, take into account that the FTL travel actually consists of acceleration and then deceleration after the halfway point. So the Normandy won’t be traveling at full speed, giving an even larger theoretical possibility for something to overtake it.


 So if you are being chased by something you'd slow down? From the look of the cutscene Joker is piling EVERY erg of energy into the engines to go faster to try to outrun whatever it is. Besides for the crucible wave to work it has to be FTL and FASTER than the Reapers cause they could outrun it in which case it would blow away the whole point of using it in the fi5rst place.

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The Angry One wrote...

I think BioWare continues to misunderstand and underestimate it's fanbase, and thought that this shot would make the majority happy by giving an explanation for Joker's flight.

Admiral Hackett: "It's time for Phase B of our plan. All forces, withdraw from the Crucible and give the Reapers a clear shot. They need to be able to take it down before it can fire!"

Joker: "Aye, aye. There's no reason for us to stick around any longer. None at all. Nope. We're completely free to leave. Happy to do so. On our way."

Joker: "Come sit on my lap, EDI, while we ride off into the sunset. We're free and clear! Engage!"

Modifié par devSin, 22 juin 2012 - 09:41 .


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vivaladricas wrote...

From Scorcher 6 (tropic thunder trailer)

Here we go again..........again..... LOL

Cool so in those orders from Hackett, Joker had time to beam em up (squad mates next to me) Or fly by by and pick them up and then take a ****** on my sheps dead corpse and take off. F minus writing can only stay an F minus if you don't just do the "its all a dream/indoc thing) but these aren't the best writers in the world obviously.

Damn you doosh ex and Matrix, damn you to hell.

The one man who made a difference is about to make a difference. Only this time, it's different.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Angry One and others, you have seen a screenshot without the full context that goes on with that screenshot. There is more content around that shot not included.

While I understand you are guarded about what the EC will be, I do suggest until you play it or experience it in the full before you talk about how bad it is. If, having doe so, it still does not meet your expectations or it does (because they are negative and you believe we do not fix the issue) THEN complain about it.



:devil:


Going to be as bad as it was before I am afraid.  Non fixable, I dont care who writes it.  They said they arent changing it man, so its kind of shot either way unless there is a massive curveball.  

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I'm preparing for the worst but would be thrilled to be proven wrong and would happily eat crow all day long in here if so.

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So call me crazy but is it really that much of a stretch too assume/believe that the "rendezvous point," was a part of the plan from the very start of the mission. I mean logically they all think the crucible is going to be some gigantic blast that totally obliterates the reapers right? So if that's what they are assuming and believing who in their right mind is going to stand in front of the blast? I can see a few ships staying back and defending at the possibility of sacrificing themselves too make sure the crucible would fire. But 1.) Sheppard is on the crucible which is probably the safest place too be when it fires, and 2.) What good is being blown up by the crucible going to do Sheppard? You guys gotta keep in mind, they don't know what you know.

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The one man who made a difference is about to make a difference. Only this time, it's different.


LOL

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Untamed_skies wrote...

So call me crazy but is it really that much of a stretch too assume/believe that the "rendezvous point," was a part of the plan from the very start of the mission. I mean logically they all think the crucible is going to be some gigantic blast that totally obliterates the reapers right? So if that's what they are assuming and believing who in their right mind is going to stand in front of the blast? I can see a few ships staying back and defending at the possibility of sacrificing themselves too make sure the crucible would fire. But 1.) Sheppard is on the crucible which is probably the safest place too be when it fires, and 2.) What good is being blown up by the crucible going to do Sheppard? You guys gotta keep in mind, they don't know what you know.


Because, again. It's going to take care of the Reapers in the entire galaxy.
Whatever it's going to do is going to be something that can't be outrun by definition. Hence, fleeing is pointless and dangerous.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Angry One and others, you have seen a screenshot without the full context that goes on with that screenshot. There is more content around that shot not included.

While I understand you are guarded about what the EC will be, I do suggest until you play it or experience it in the full before you talk about how bad it is. If, having doe so, it still does not meet your expectations or it does (because they are negative and you believe we do not fix the issue) THEN complain about it.



:devil:

Normally I'm with TAO on these kind of things, but it's a screenshot of a screenshot, so I'm willing to give it a chance. It could've been a regroup for another attack, or a distraction for Harbinger, etc. 

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wh00ley 06 wrote...

Normally I'm with TAO on these kind of things, but it's a screenshot of a screenshot, so I'm willing to give it a chance. It could've been a regroup for another attack, or a distraction for Harbinger, etc. 


A fake out? Oh if only I trusted them enough to believe that, but I honestly cannot.

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I always feared that the indoctrination theory gave "the new" Bioware to much credit...
The company who made Kotor 1 could pull that off, but this is history now.

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Because, again. It's going to take care of the Reapers in the entire galaxy.
Whatever it's going to do is going to be something that can't be outrun by definition. Hence, fleeing is pointless and dangerous.


They had no clue what it do as well.  It was established early in the game, but ALL OF A SUDDEN for the EC they know.  Hackett said they didnt know what would happen twice I believe.  LOL  These writers services would not be neccessary if this did become a successful movie franchise.  Hollywood would say.  "Ummm.....  no!" 

A shoehorn is a nice image to use with this  EC explanation, doesnt matter what it is.  You cant explain teleporting squad mates, that is not possible.  I mean the spacekid can I guess, but he makes little sense. 

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lillitheris wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Angry One and others, you have seen a screenshot without the full context that goes on with that screenshot. There is more content around that shot not included.

While I understand you are guarded about what the EC will be, I do suggest until you play it or experience it in the full before you talk about how bad it is. If, having doe so, it still does not meet your expectations or it does (because they are negative and you believe we do not fix the issue) THEN complain about it.


Hey, now, we’re just engaging in LOTS OF SPECULATION ^_^


90% are taking turns bashing what they do not understand.

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Chris Priestly wrote...Angry One and others, you have seen a screenshot without the full context that goes on with that screenshot. There is more content around that shot not included.While I understand you are guarded about what the EC will be, I do suggest until you play it or experience it in the full before you talk about how bad it is. If, having doe so, it still does not meet your expectations or it does (because they are negative and you believe we do not fix the issue) THEN complain about it.

says the man who said "there is no context to those screenshots, that might be any random female quarian and not Tali" while talking about the ME2 screenshots? are you kidding me?

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I can't wait for the purple, yellow, and orange endings... /sarcams

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The Grey Nayr wrote...

90% are taking turns bashing what they do not understand.


What is it exactly that we don't understand?

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Angry One and others, you have seen a screenshot without the full context that goes on with that screenshot. There is more content around that shot not included.

While I understand you are guarded about what the EC will be, I do suggest until you play it or experience it in the full before you talk about how bad it is. If, having doe so, it still does not meet your expectations or it does (because they are negative and you believe we do not fix the issue) THEN complain about it.



:devil:

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Tell em Chris!!!

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wh00ley 06 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Angry One and others, you have seen a screenshot without the full context that goes on with that screenshot. There is more content around that shot not included.

While I understand you are guarded about what the EC will be, I do suggest until you play it or experience it in the full before you talk about how bad it is. If, having doe so, it still does not meet your expectations or it does (because they are negative and you believe we do not fix the issue) THEN complain about it.



:devil:

Normally I'm with TAO on these kind of things, but it's a screenshot of a screenshot, so I'm willing to give it a chance. It could've been a regroup for another attack, or a distraction for Harbinger, etc. 

Except... look who else is in the shot.