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[M920CAIN]

G Kevin wrote...

humes spork wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Might as well post it here. This is what Hackett says:

"All Fleets: The Crucible is armed. Disengage and head to the rendezvous point."

BSN Logic: That still makes no sense! Hackett would never order that! Joker would never abandon Shepard! The crew teleported! And now you're telling me EVERY ship in the fleet was in transit and got blowed up and stranded when the Crucible went off!

I'm building a time machine to CANCEL MY PREORDER!

Here's hoping that Joker actually says something along the lines of, "What about Shepard?"

Hackett: Shepard who?
Garrus: He said he'd meet us at the bar.
Liara: Godess... how could I be so dense...
Tali: Bosh'tet..
Ashley: *mumbles poetry giberish*
James Vega: D'oh *mouth open with tongue out* - Does that mean I get to be N7 in his place?
Everyone: NOOOOOOOOOOO!

Modifié par M920CAIN, 22 juin 2012 - 09:53 .

[zovoes]

Untamed_skies wrote...

 1.) Sheppard is on the crucible which is probably the safest place too be when it fires.

your joking right? being on the thing that no one knows what the hell it does (even though they built the god damn thing) is the safest place to be when it goes off? for all anyone knows it my just blow the **** up and do nothing.

[Untamed_skies]

The Angry One wrote...

Untamed_skies wrote...

So call me crazy but is it really that much of a stretch too assume/believe that the "rendezvous point," was a part of the plan from the very start of the mission. I mean logically they all think the crucible is going to be some gigantic blast that totally obliterates the reapers right? So if that's what they are assuming and believing who in their right mind is going to stand in front of the blast? I can see a few ships staying back and defending at the possibility of sacrificing themselves too make sure the crucible would fire. But 1.) Sheppard is on the crucible which is probably the safest place too be when it fires, and 2.) What good is being blown up by the crucible going to do Sheppard? You guys gotta keep in mind, they don't know what you know.

Because, again. It's going to take care of the Reapers in the entire galaxy.
Whatever it's going to do is going to be something that can't be outrun by definition. Hence, fleeing is pointless and dangerous.

The crucible is built like a cannon. So again thinking logically (because he and no one else has any idea what the crucible actually would do) Your goal would too be the opposite side of where the blast is going. Your options A. Stay right where you are and get blown to bits alongside your enemy. Or B. Pull back and maybe get blown to bits alongside your enemy. I know which option I'd chose. *shrug*

[The Angry One]

Untamed_skies wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Untamed_skies wrote...

So call me crazy but is it really that much of a stretch too assume/believe that the "rendezvous point," was a part of the plan from the very start of the mission. I mean logically they all think the crucible is going to be some gigantic blast that totally obliterates the reapers right? So if that's what they are assuming and believing who in their right mind is going to stand in front of the blast? I can see a few ships staying back and defending at the possibility of sacrificing themselves too make sure the crucible would fire. But 1.) Sheppard is on the crucible which is probably the safest place too be when it fires, and 2.) What good is being blown up by the crucible going to do Sheppard? You guys gotta keep in mind, they don't know what you know.

Because, again. It's going to take care of the Reapers in the entire galaxy.
Whatever it's going to do is going to be something that can't be outrun by definition. Hence, fleeing is pointless and dangerous.

The crucible is built like a cannon. So again thinking logically (because he and no one else has any idea what the crucible actually would do) Your goal would too be the opposite side of where the blast is going. Your options A. Stay right where you are and get blown to bits alongside your enemy. Or B. Pull back and maybe get blown to bits alongside your enemy. I know which option I'd chose. *shrug*

If you think the Crucible will work like a cannon, then fly behind it.
If you want to be safe, fly to the far side of the Earth.

[lillitheris]

glacier1701 wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

We don't have any timeframe for how long it takes to reach it in control.
Also, the galaxy map cinematic is sped up and stylised.

…You assume.

I don’t really even understand what you‘re arguing for or against here. The scene makes no sense. None. It is impossible to ‘make it work’.

No, but the point is it's completely impossible for the Crucible wave to have caught up with the Normandy if it was using ship FTL.

I disagree, it’s possible. We know different engines produce different FTL speeds, and therefore the wave only needs to have traveled EvenFTL. It doesn’t make sense, but it’s possible.

Also, take into account that the FTL travel actually consists of acceleration and then deceleration after the halfway point. So the Normandy won’t be traveling at full speed, giving an even larger theoretical possibility for something to overtake it.

 So if you are being chased by something you'd slow down?

…No? It’s not 0 to Top FTL in 1 seconds…it takes time to accelerate to the top speed (and, conversely, to decelerate to drop out). Therefore, the Normandy isn’t traveling as fast as it could.

From the look of the cutscene Joker is piling EVERY erg of energy into the engines to go faster to try to outrun whatever it is. Besides for the crucible wave to work it has to be FTL and FASTER than the Reapers cause they could outrun it in which case it would blow away the whole point of using it in the fi5rst place.

Yep, exactly.

[lillitheris]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Angry One and others, you have seen a screenshot without the full context that goes on with that screenshot. There is more content around that shot not included.

While I understand you are guarded about what the EC will be, I do suggest until you play it or experience it in the full before you talk about how bad it is. If, having doe so, it still does not meet your expectations or it does (because they are negative and you believe we do not fix the issue) THEN complain about it.

Hey, now, we’re just engaging in LOTS OF SPECULATION

90% are taking turns bashing what they do not understand.

Expecting your answers to these with bated breath:


0. You don’t go into FTL inside a system. The risk of hitting something is too great, unless you have absolutely no other choice.
1. It takes ~5 hours to get to the termination shock (edge of solar system) — or Charon — at relativistic speeds.
2. The nearest possibly habitable planet to Earth is 10 ly away. This is 12+ hours of FTL travel.
3. Relay jumps are instantaneous (or microsecond scale).
4. If we, despite all logic, decide that the Normandy was hit in the middle  of a relay jump the chances of ending up not dead near a habitable planet are, optimistically, something like 1:10^17
5. Lethal Cherenkov radiation for any abrupt FTL exit
6. Chances of surviving re-entry onto a planet with clearly a breathable atmosphere in an uncontrollable, damaged ship are…low.

Modifié par lillitheris, 22 juin 2012 - 10:04 .

[sAxMoNkI]

One thing I'd like to point out, if the crucible energy wave was going at FTL then how would you see it's different colours...after all the colour is due to light, light can't be travelling faster than light

EDIT: ^ Daaaamn lillitheris, that's probably the most comprehensive list of what the problems are with the normandy scene that I've come across!

Modifié par sAxMoNkI, 22 juin 2012 - 10:02 .

[Erixxxx]

Jesus Christ, so much negativity in here. Think happy thoughts, people!

Goosfraba.

[lillitheris]

Erixxxx wrote...

Jesus Christ, so much negativity in here. Think happy thoughts, people!

I thought happy thoughts the entire wait for ME3, and look what that got us. I’m trying the other way now.

[The Angry One]

sAxMoNkI wrote...

One thing I'd like to point out, if the crucible energy wave was going at FTL then how would you see it's different colours...after all the colour is due to light, light can't be travelling faster than light

Space magic.

[zovoes]

sAxMoNkI wrote...

One thing I'd like to point out, if the crucible energy wave was going at FTL then how would you see it's different colours...after all the colour is due to light, light can't be travelling faster than light

art. that is really why, if not who could tell what ending they got?

[txmn1016]

sAxMoNkI wrote...

One thing I'd like to point out, if the crucible energy wave was going at FTL then how would you see it's different colours...after all the colour is due to light, light can't be travelling faster than light

EDIT: ^ Daaaamn lillitheris, that's probably the most comprehensive list of what the problems are with the normandy scene that I've come across!

....well frak.

[emp6]

Untamed_skies wrote...
So call me crazy but is it really that much of a stretch too assume/believe that the "rendezvous point," was a part of the plan from the very start of the mission. I mean logically they all think the crucible is going to be some gigantic blast that totally obliterates the reapers right? So if that's what they are assuming and believing who in their right mind is going to stand in front of the blast? I can see a few ships staying back and defending at the possibility of sacrificing themselves too make sure the crucible would fire. But 1.) Sheppard is on the crucible which is probably the safest place too be when it fires, and 2.) What good is being blown up by the crucible going to do Sheppard? You guys gotta keep in mind, they don't know what you know.

Hackett and Joker are obviously Nicki Minaj Fanboys.

[sAxMoNkI]

The Angry One wrote...

sAxMoNkI wrote...

One thing I'd like to point out, if the crucible energy wave was going at FTL then how would you see it's different colours...after all the colour is due to light, light can't be travelling faster than light

Space magic.

Having said that though, doesn't ftl in mass effect work by enveloping the ship in a 'bubble' where mass is reduced but for those inside the bubble things appear normal. So when the beam goes into the bubble would the colour then be visible? I mean the beam would have to have gotten veeery close to come inside the normandy's mass effect bubble but still...

Modifié par sAxMoNkI, 22 juin 2012 - 10:06 .

[M Hedonist]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

90% are taking turns bashing what they do not understand.

Yes, yes. We stupid cave men bashing ME3 endings with our clubs. Hurrrr.

[Ashtarth1]

IF the starchild gives shepard enough intel on the crucibles function

and then maybe shepard will call hackett on the comm and authorize retreat personally

[zovoes]

Ashtarth1 wrote...

IF the starchild gives shepard enough intel on the crucibles function

and then maybe shepard will call hackett on the comm and authorize retreat personally

still a five hour trip to the relay man you just going to sit there or will the ships start to move at the speed of plot?

[webhead921]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Angry One and others, you have seen a screenshot without the full context that goes on with that screenshot. There is more content around that shot not included.

While I understand you are guarded about what the EC will be, I do suggest until you play it or experience it in the full before you talk about how bad it is. If, having doe so, it still does not meet your expectations or it does (because they are negative and you believe we do not fix the issue) THEN complain about it.

Thanks!  Seriously, it comes out in a few days.  Some people just like to cry cry cry.  Maybe it's just because they like the taste of their own tears.

[Ashtarth1]

zovoes wrote...

Ashtarth1 wrote...

IF the starchild gives shepard enough intel on the crucibles function

and then maybe shepard will call hackett on the comm and authorize retreat personally

still a five hour trip to the relay man you just going to sit there or will the ships start to move at the speed of plot?

rofl.. well they got to the earth instantly

cant they all just bust into FTL on the spot, its just super dangerous within a star system i think

[crimzontearz]

webhead921 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...Angry One and others, you have seen a screenshot without the full context that goes on with that screenshot. There is more content around that shot not included.While I understand you are guarded about what the EC will be, I do suggest until you play it or experience it in the full before you talk about how bad it is. If, having doe so, it still does not meet your expectations or it does (because they are negative and you believe we do not fix the issue) THEN complain about it.

Thanks!  Seriously, it comes out in a few days.  Some people just like to cry cry cry.  Maybe it's just because they like the taste of their own tears.

or it may be because you are a pro render and you don't give a ****

[antares_sublight]

webhead921 wrote...
Thanks!  Seriously, it comes out in a few days.  Some people just like to cry cry cry.  Maybe it's just because they like the taste of their own tears.

So given the caption in the screenshot showing Hackett giving the order to flee and what we know happened, what's your explanation? No crying, just taking it for what it is.

[M Hedonist]

Ashtarth1 wrote...

IF the starchild gives shepard enough intel on the crucibles function

and then maybe shepard will call hackett on the comm and authorize retreat personally

How does that make any sense?
As the Catalyst puts it, none of the Crucible's functions do any harm to anything that isn't synthetic. And the Catalyst also tells you that the whole galaxy will be affected.
That doesn't make one bit of sense.

[Goaliebot]

In the last page alone we've gotten "too stupid to understand the endings" and "crybabies" hits from a couple pro-enders. Once EC is out these will be the new reality and constant. To save time, I propose a simple coding system:

(A) = "crybabies" (including pictures/gifs of crying babies, and any related use of cry, crying, etc)
( = "whiners" (including "hold the whine" and use of the term "wah" and "wahmbulance")
© = references to anti-enders simply being too stupid to understand the endings and/or EC
(D) = accusations that "there is no way to please you so-called fans"

I'll add more as needed. That's a start.

[Ashtarth1]

Sauruz wrote...

Ashtarth1 wrote...

IF the starchild gives shepard enough intel on the crucibles function

and then maybe shepard will call hackett on the comm and authorize retreat personally

How does that make any sense?
As the Catalyst puts it, none of the Crucible's functions do any harm to anything that isn't synthetic. And the Catalyst also tells you that the whole galaxy will be affected.
That doesn't make one bit of sense.

dude the retreat is what doesnt make sense i was just putting the information into military value within the confines of the plot

[zovoes]

Ashtarth1 wrote...

zovoes wrote...

Ashtarth1 wrote...

IF the starchild gives shepard enough intel on the crucibles function

and then maybe shepard will call hackett on the comm and authorize retreat personally

still a five hour trip to the relay man you just going to sit there or will the ships start to move at the speed of plot?

rofl.. well they got to the earth instantly

cant they all just bust into FTL on the spot, its just super dangerous within a star system i think

them getting to earth "fast" you can let slide as it would not be good pacing and there was nothng going on in those five hours that we needed to see. as for FTLing in system, yeah there is dust small rocks and all kinds of stuff that will make for a really bad day if you hit it at that speed so its a no go and thats not counting the big stuff you can't see if the sun is not hitting it.