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Admiral Hackett told Joker to leave the fight and either go through the Sol relay/engage FTL


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Ozzyfan223 wrote...

this single image crushed any and all hope I had for the EC.


Image IPB 

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N7Infernox wrote...

revo76 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Might as well post it here. This is what Hackett says:

"All Fleets: The Crucible is armed. Disengage and head to the rendezvous point."


By looking to this, this explains why we see alive Shep if we have more than 5k EMS. However this does not explain or clarify the meaning of it....



um... how does it do that again?


Because they left Shepard in Citadel normally, and  they decided to retreat. If you have 5k+ EMS Shep is alive.

More ships - Shep is alive
Less ships - Shep is dead 

what's the connection with Reaper and ship numbers and retreat decision while Shepard is inside of Citadel.. Unknown. Cleary Hackett thought that Shepard is dead after the contact with him. But once Shepard talked with him Hackett said Crucible is not firing too ?

MINDBLOWN

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OdanUrr wrote...

Might as well post it here. This is what Hackett says:

"All Fleets: The Crucible is armed. Disengage and head to the rendezvous point."


And why the hell would you "disengage" your fleet before the superweapon can actually fire? So the Reapers have it easier to destroy it in the last moment?
Hell nobody even knows what it does, you might end up crashing on a planet because it destroys the Mass Relays while you're trying to make a jump... oh wait...

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wright1978 wrote...

So i guess they spenthours working out who they could character assasinate in order to save Joker from being a yellow coward. So sorry for Hackett that they seem to have turned him into an idioit or a yellow coward.


How would it be idiotic or cowardly for an Admiral, who is in charge of all of the fleets in this battle, to order all forces to retreat, leaving behind two men?

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Hacket tells everyone to disengage and head to the rendevous point.

Nothing about using the sol relay... They probably used FTL.. I wonder what hapend to all those other ships who used FTL... ships that hadn't got Silaris armor and such..

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And Joker agreed to just leave Shep behind? Also how did my two squadmates teleported? Oh EC you so silly.

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BP20125810 wrote...

Not only is IT dead now, it is burned into ashes. The ashes were made into a milkshake, which were drunk by Eric Cartmen and pooped into the sewers.


It'll be fun to see the IT nutjobs squim after they completely lose touch with reality(not that they ever had much of a grip on it to begin with).

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Yubz wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Might as well post it here. This is what Hackett says:

"All Fleets: The Crucible is armed. Disengage and head to the rendezvous point."


And why the hell would you "disengage" your fleet before the superweapon can actually fire? So the Reapers have it easier to destroy it in the last moment?
Hell nobody even knows what it does, you might end up crashing on a planet because it destroys the Mass Relays while you're trying to make a jump... oh wait...


Or, you know, it might be a dud... in which case, the Reapers will just follow you throught the Mass Relays, giving them the element of surprise, when they pour in on top of your rendezvous.

Anyone else think Hackett's either an idiot, or indoctrinated?  :whistle:

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shodiswe wrote...

Hacket tells everyone to disengage and head to the rendevous point.

Nothing about using the sol relay... They probably used FTL.. I wonder what hapend to all those other ships who used FTL... ships that hadn't got Silaris armor and such..


Yeah, you don’t FTL inside a system. Codex. It’s still at least that 5 hours to the heliosphere and safe FTL.



Also, given that the Crucible firing is short, they don’t really have the time to escape. So that can’t be when the order was given. Or, well, can be, but it wouldn’t get them far.

The order couldn’t have been given much before that, either, because the Reapers would blow it to hell the instant it went unprotected…



I said it long ago in my ending thread, but essentially any ‘explanation’ for the Normandy scene that isn’t ‘it was a dream’ will be complete nonsense, and will be torn apart.

There’s a chance they can make it even worse by spectacularly failing with the explanation :pinched:

Modifié par lillitheris, 22 juin 2012 - 06:25 .


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Seboist wrote...

BP20125810 wrote...

Not only is IT dead now, it is burned into ashes. The ashes were made into a milkshake, which were drunk by Eric Cartmen and pooped into the sewers.


It'll be fun to see the IT nutjobs squim after they completely lose touch with reality(not that they ever had much of a grip on it to begin with).


You are a delightful person.



This seems like Bioware is willing to sacrifice Joker's character to make that mess of the original ending make sense.

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NoSpin wrote...

Seboist wrote...

BP20125810 wrote...

Not only is IT dead now, it is burned into ashes. The ashes were made into a milkshake, which were drunk by Eric Cartmen and pooped into the sewers.


It'll be fun to see the IT nutjobs squim after they completely lose touch with reality(not that they ever had much of a grip on it to begin with).


You are a delightful person.



This seems like Bioware is willing to sacrifice Joker's character to make that mess of the original ending make sense.


The ENTIRE plot of ME3 doesn't make sense. If you weren't too distracted with the Michael Bay/George Lucas-esque pew pew and explosions you'd see how utterly moronic the crucible plot is(among other things).

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alsonamedbort wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

So i guess they spenthours working out who they could character assasinate in order to save Joker from being a yellow coward. So sorry for Hackett that they seem to have turned him into an idioit or a yellow coward.


How would it be idiotic or cowardly for an Admiral, who is in charge of all of the fleets in this battle, to order all forces to retreat, leaving behind two men?


Why are you retreating? Where to? Surely the entire fleet can't flee faster than the reapers can fly? Weren't we going to earth to fight or die? Surely carrying on fighting when you have no clue what the crucible will do rather than turning tail(and probably being obliterated as you try to flee on mass) and possibly letting reapers turn attention to the big ol crucible

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I'm also curious when this will happen. Because one moment Hacket is telling shep nothing is happening then we talk to spacebrat. While talking to spacebrat ships are still fighting. So will it be just after we decide to shoot the tube, jump, or grab handles, and if so how does joker get the time to land, grab our team and then get away in time to crash on some random planet. Unless they are thinking that once shep passes out Hacket makes that call but at that point the crucible was neither armed nor firing. So the only logical explanation would be that Hacket sees the red ball start to form as it begins firing and orders everyone to get the hell out which makes the timing of everything stupid.

Also are they going to explain why joker looks back while running from the explosion :P that's always confused me.

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YOU SAW ONE IMAGE. I mean come on guys we all still want to know how they got on the ship and through the relay on time and why Joker would abandon Shepard. Lets see the rest and find out what happens.

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If Hackett orders the fleet to retreat, then it makes sense for Joker to do as he is commanded.

For all Joker knows, Shepard might be safe and they can come back and pick him up later.

I'm not going to judge the EC from a single screenshot.

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Seboist wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

Seboist wrote...

BP20125810 wrote...

Not only is IT dead now, it is burned into ashes. The ashes were made into a milkshake, which were drunk by Eric Cartmen and pooped into the sewers.


It'll be fun to see the IT nutjobs squim after they completely lose touch with reality(not that they ever had much of a grip on it to begin with).


You are a delightful person.



This seems like Bioware is willing to sacrifice Joker's character to make that mess of the original ending make sense.


The ENTIRE plot of ME3 doesn't make sense. If you weren't too distracted with the Michael Bay/George Lucas-esque pew pew and explosions you'd see how utterly moronic the crucible plot is(among other things).


If you'll excuse me I'm not distracted by the pew pews. The plot of ME3 is much weaker than the others, and the Crucible is quite convenient, but it does make sense. The ending is where the plot goes from "convenient" to "WTF?". Shep's loyal crew leaving him to die on a device they aren't even sure does anything makes no sense.

Less hostility next time.

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Why would Hackett disengage the Reapers because the Crucible is armed? Wouldn't that give the Reapers the slack to destroy the Crucible before it fires?

This is nothing conclusive, but now I'm worried they'll write new plot holes.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 22 juin 2012 - 06:31 .


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Wow, is that Garrus back there? But he was with me on Earth. Looks like they still haven't sorted that problem out.

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Blacklash93 wrote...

Why would Hackett disengage the Reapers because the Crucible is armed? Wouldn't that give the Reapers the slack to destroy the Crucible before it fires?

This is nothing conclusive, but now I'm worried they'll write new plot holes.


Hackett being stupid isn't what i'd consider a plothole. 

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NoSpin wrote...

Seboist wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

Seboist wrote...

BP20125810 wrote...

Not only is IT dead now, it is burned into ashes. The ashes were made into a milkshake, which were drunk by Eric Cartmen and pooped into the sewers.


It'll be fun to see the IT nutjobs squim after they completely lose touch with reality(not that they ever had much of a grip on it to begin with).


You are a delightful person.



This seems like Bioware is willing to sacrifice Joker's character to make that mess of the original ending make sense.


The ENTIRE plot of ME3 doesn't make sense. If you weren't too distracted with the Michael Bay/George Lucas-esque pew pew and explosions you'd see how utterly moronic the crucible plot is(among other things).


If you'll excuse me I'm not distracted by the pew pews. The plot of ME3 is much weaker than the others, and the Crucible is quite convenient, but it does make sense. The ending is where the plot goes from "convenient" to "WTF?". Shep's loyal crew leaving him to die on a device they aren't even sure does anything makes no sense.

Less hostility next time.


Funneling critical resources to a complete unknown that nobody knows how it works or what it does makes sense? Um... okay.

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Blacklash93 wrote...

Why would Hackett disengage the Reapers because the Crucible is armed? Wouldn't that give the Reapers the slack to destroy the Crucible before it fires?

This is nothing conclusive, but now I'm worried they'll write new plot holes.



Fill one plot hole, create 2 more in it's place.

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I always thought that this was what happened, nice to be right :P

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The Crucible was a test of faith, more or less. The war was lost without a wild card like that. The Protheans thought it would work.

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Leafs43 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Why would Hackett disengage the Reapers because the Crucible is armed? Wouldn't that give the Reapers the slack to destroy the Crucible before it fires?

This is nothing conclusive, but now I'm worried they'll write new plot holes.



Fill one plot hole, create 2 more in it's place.


I really think your using the term plot hole too liberally. 

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Right know ... I don´t know ... maybe they will do things even worst :D:D:D:D