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[shodiswe]

Dutch105 wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Alex Kershaw wrote...

I think people are reading way too much into this without context. But if you really wanted to read into it, isnt it obvious that Hackett is telling the ships to flee the Reapers, NOT the Crucible? He's not saying "run away from the superweapon with unlimited range", he's saying "run away from the reapers killing thousands of you by the minute, because we've got the crucible in place" …

…And it will all be for nothing if the Reapers destroy the weapon. No, you’d defend it to the last ship.

Not if it's about to fire - you wouldn't need to defend it.   You just need to get out of its way.

I agree, that's liek defending a nuke seconds before it fires when no enemy is in range to affect it in that time span.

Running might actualy have seen like the smart choice.. However FTL didn't seem to be enough to outrun the blast which probably put the fleet in greater danger. But still they had no idea. And it sounds like BW want to make a happy ending out of it...  Semi happy... sounded like they didn't want to wipe out all te allied forces or have them starving.. It could be worse but lets no go there  

[Bantz]

what is silly is they say in the video they didn't want to just make some artistic statement (which they did over and over again). So if that's the case just remove the bull**** parts. Ok you want to keep spacebrat you can make that work, it'll be weak and still annoying but it can work. The Joker leaving part makes NO sense just remove it, retcon it out.

[Catamantaloedis]

The Angry One wrote...

Dutch105 wrote...

Not if it's about to fire - you wouldn't need to defend it.   You just need to get out of its way.

Getting out of it's way does not equate to fleeing out of the damn system.
Also, how do you get out of the way of a GALAXY WIDE wave? 

What, did Hackett think he could flee the galaxy itself? All they've done is transfer the idiocy from Joker to Hackett. Because, you know, Hackett needed to look more stupid.
Walters doesn't care what character he assassinates as long as he clings onto his "artistic statement".

http://gifsoup.com/i...?id=1428864&t=o GIFSoup

[SpiderFan1217]

Oh look, a perfecly logical and not-douchebag reason as to why Joker was leaving!! What a suprise!!

Sacasm levels exceeding 100%!!

[Fireblader70]

This thread is insane... I should probably stop looking at it...

[shodiswe]

The Angry One wrote...

Dutch105 wrote...

Not if it's about to fire - you wouldn't need to defend it.   You just need to get out of its way.

Getting out of it's way does not equate to fleeing out of the damn system.
Also, how do you get out of the way of a GALAXY WIDE wave? 

What, did Hackett think he could flee the galaxy itself? All they've done is transfer the idiocy from Joker to Hackett. Because, you know, Hackett needed to look more stupid.
Walters doesn't care what character he assassinates as long as he clings onto his "artistic statement".

They couldn't know it would hit ships in FTL, it's possible the second puls from the relays that exploded traveled at FTL whiel the initial explosion from the Crucible/citadel traveled at light speed or sublight speed.

[Tirranek]

wright1978 wrote...

So i guess they spenthours working out who they could character assasinate in order to save Joker from being a yellow coward. So sorry for Hackett that they seem to have turned him into an idioit or a yellow coward.

Wait a sec, how does telling people to move away from the now armed Nuke of Ambiguity +3 constitute cowardice?

[Nicksta92]

This doesn't necessarily reflect on my own opinion, but some of the commenters on this thread seem to be feeling this way:

http://chzmemebase.f...rn-so-close.jpg

Modifié par Nicksta92, 22 juin 2012 - 07:37 .

[The Angry One]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Dutch105 wrote...

Not if it's about to fire - you wouldn't need to defend it.   You just need to get out of its way.

Getting out of it's way does not equate to fleeing out of the damn system.
Also, how do you get out of the way of a GALAXY WIDE wave? 

What, did Hackett think he could flee the galaxy itself? All they've done is transfer the idiocy from Joker to Hackett. Because, you know, Hackett needed to look more stupid.
Walters doesn't care what character he assassinates as long as he clings onto his "artistic statement".

*snip tiresome meme*

I love people who think we should stop calling a bad plot a bad plot because it's given a half-assed explanation that makes no sense. Go away.

Modifié par The Angry One, 22 juin 2012 - 07:36 .

[lillitheris]

Dutch105 wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Alex Kershaw wrote...

I think people are reading way too much into this without context. But if you really wanted to read into it, isnt it obvious that Hackett is telling the ships to flee the Reapers, NOT the Crucible? He's not saying "run away from the superweapon with unlimited range", he's saying "run away from the reapers killing thousands of you by the minute, because we've got the crucible in place" …

…And it will all be for nothing if the Reapers destroy the weapon. No, you’d defend it to the last ship.

Not if it's about to fire - you wouldn't need to defend it.   You just need to get out of its way.

Oh, sure, I mentioned as much. You won’t have time to get out of the way, but that would be the only logical time to try. That is, if you assume that jumping into FTL inside the system (only possible choice) won’t A) crash you and the weapon won’t affect the FTL tunnel.

…

Also, relay jumps are instantaneous per codex. Therefore, Normandy is not doing a relay jump.

Modifié par lillitheris, 22 juin 2012 - 07:38 .

[Catamantaloedis]

The Angry One wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Dutch105 wrote...
Not if it's about to fire - you wouldn't need to defend it.   You just need to get out of its way.

Getting out of it's way does not equate to fleeing out of the damn system.
Also, how do you get out of the way of a GALAXY WIDE wave? 

What, did Hackett think he could flee the galaxy itself? All they've done is transfer the idiocy from Joker to Hackett. Because, you know, Hackett needed to look more stupid.
Walters doesn't care what character he assassinates as long as he clings onto his "artistic statement".

*snip tiresome meme*

I love people who think we should stop calling a bad plot a bad plot because it's given a half-assed explanation that makes no sense. Go away.

And the crying continues.

[Dutch105]

The Angry One wrote...

Dutch105 wrote...

Not if it's about to fire - you wouldn't need to defend it.   You just need to get out of its way.

Getting out of it's way does not equate to fleeing out of the damn system.
Also, how do you get out of the way of a GALAXY WIDE wave? 

What, did Hackett think he could flee the galaxy itself? All they've done is transfer the idiocy from Joker to Hackett. Because, you know, Hackett needed to look more stupid.
Walters doesn't care what character he assassinates as long as he clings onto his "artistic statement".

The quote is:

"All Fleets: The Crucible is armed. Disengage and head to the rendezvous point"

You are assuming the rendevous point is in a different system.

You are assuming that Joker was making a relay jump when it could simply have been FTL (indeed, it looks like the FTL cutscene from ME1).  The fact he ends up on a planet outside the solar system could be due to the effect of being hit by the powerful wave of energy (whether red, blue, or green!)

And I believe the phrase is "artistic integrity"

Also, I recall from a previous thread that you think Hackett is a moron, so wouldn't that be sort of affirming for you, and give you a warm feeling inside?

[The Angry One]

shodiswe wrote...

They couldn't know it would hit ships in FTL, it's possible the second puls from the relays that exploded traveled at FTL whiel the initial explosion from the Crucible/citadel traveled at light speed or sublight speed.

The Crucible will affect all Reapers in the galaxy. They know this.
The Crucible uses dark energy. They know this.
The Crucible affects the relays. They know this.

It does not take a rocket scientist to realise it's going to propagate it's effect at FTL speeds sooner or later, and thus running is futile.
Hackett, of all people, should know this.

[Blacklash93]

lillitheris wrote...
Also, relay jumps are instantaneous per codex. Therefore, Normandy is not doing a relay jump.

What about the wormhole then? Did one just happen to appear behind the Normandy for no reason or special circumstance? Isn't that contrived?

Ugh... this is bad no matter how we can try to put it.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 22 juin 2012 - 07:40 .

[The Angry One]

Dutch105 wrote...

The quote is:

"All Fleets: The Crucible is armed. Disengage and head to the rendezvous point"

You are assuming the rendevous point is in a different system.

You are assuming that Joker was making a relay jump when it could simply have been FTL (indeed, it looks like the FTL cutscene from ME1).  The fact he ends up on a planet outside the solar system could be due to the effect of being hit by the powerful wave of energy (whether red, blue, or green!)

The Crucible wave does not hit FTL speeds until it passes Charon, or is the wave from Charon.
Therefore, Joker is either in the relay, or the rendevouz point was somewhere in the local cluster. Either of those is stupid.

And I believe the phrase is "artistic integrity"

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"Artistic statement" is the phrase they use in the new podcast.

Also, I recall from a previous thread that you think Hackett is a moron, so wouldn't that be sort of affirming for you, and give you a warm feeling inside?

No. I like Hackett. I love Lance Henriksen. It pains me to see what they continue to do with his character.

Modifié par The Angry One, 22 juin 2012 - 07:40 .

[Dutch105]

lillitheris wrote...


Oh, sure, I mentioned as much. You won’t have time to get out of the way, but that would be the only logical time to try. That is, if you assume that jumping into FTL inside the system (only possible choice) won’t A) crash you and the weapon won’t affect the FTL tunnel.

…

Also, relay jumps are instantaneous per codex. Therefore, Normandy is not doing a relay jump.

Indeed.  I agree it's not a relay jump visually either - it looks a bit like the ME1 FTL scene.

[The Angry One]

Dutch105 wrote...

lillitheris wrote...


Oh, sure, I mentioned as much. You won’t have time to get out of the way, but that would be the only logical time to try. That is, if you assume that jumping into FTL inside the system (only possible choice) won’t A) crash you and the weapon won’t affect the FTL tunnel.

…

Also, relay jumps are instantaneous per codex. Therefore, Normandy is not doing a relay jump.

Indeed.  I agree it's not a relay jump visually either - it looks a bit like the ME1 FTL scene.

Omega-4.

[Mcfly616]

So they really are going to "clarify" a pile of crap....


I'll pass, I know what crap is and what it looks like.....staring at it for another 10 minutes isnt going clarify anything lol

[Natswit]

G Kevin wrote...

Crew. must. be. reunited.

Please EC, make it so.

This. I can't say how much I hope that this happens, at least for saves with hight EMS.

[Ashtarth1]

 omg no

[Dutch105]

The Angry One wrote...

Dutch105 wrote...

lillitheris wrote...


Oh, sure, I mentioned as much. You won’t have time to get out of the way, but that would be the only logical time to try. That is, if you assume that jumping into FTL inside the system (only possible choice) won’t A) crash you and the weapon won’t affect the FTL tunnel.

…

Also, relay jumps are instantaneous per codex. Therefore, Normandy is not doing a relay jump.

Indeed.  I agree it's not a relay jump visually either - it looks a bit like the ME1 FTL scene.

Omega-4.

I'm afraid you're going to have to elaborate for my possibly unintelligent mind.

Unless this is a new game?  In which case:

Citadel.

[The Angry One]

Dutch105 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Dutch105 wrote...

lillitheris wrote...


Oh, sure, I mentioned as much. You won’t have time to get out of the way, but that would be the only logical time to try. That is, if you assume that jumping into FTL inside the system (only possible choice) won’t A) crash you and the weapon won’t affect the FTL tunnel.

…

Also, relay jumps are instantaneous per codex. Therefore, Normandy is not doing a relay jump.

Indeed.  I agree it's not a relay jump visually either - it looks a bit like the ME1 FTL scene.

Omega-4.

I'm afraid you're going to have to elaborate for my possibly unintelligent mind.

Unless this is a new game?  In which case:

Citadel.

www.youtube.com/watch

[ardias89]

Lets hope this DLC doesnt turn out to just be a gift to pro-enders.

[Gruntburner]

The Angry One wrote...

Dutch105 wrote...

Not if it's about to fire - you wouldn't need to defend it.   You just need to get out of its way.

Getting out of it's way does not equate to fleeing out of the damn system.
Also, how do you get out of the way of a GALAXY WIDE wave? 

What, did Hackett think he could flee the galaxy itself? All they've done is transfer the idiocy from Joker to Hackett. Because, you know, Hackett needed to look more stupid.
Walters doesn't care what character he assassinates as long as he clings onto his "artistic statement".

You do remember that they didn't know what the Crucible was supposed to do, right?  Heck, they were even entirely sure that the catalyst would allow it to work properly.

[Lone Triarii]

A picture with a single line of dialogue. Not a whole lot to be certain about.