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[Funkdrspot]

Mcfly616 wrote...

zovoes wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

So Shepard somehow survives in Destroy.....and is either.floating in space alone, never to be seen again.....or.....he's superman and can fall to Earth on an exploding super structure, the size of the asteroid that killed the Dinosaurs

it's 44 km long, the asteroid that you are taking about was about 10km long....... there are five arms to the citadel, just think about that for a sec. just to put that into terms we can get the bigest nuke ever made was a 50 megaton bomb, the astirod that killed the dinos was almost 100 tetratons of boom.

Then that just makes my point even more relevant...haha, seriously can't wait to see the "clarification" for that

Your point is somewhat relevant but his isn't. I always have to clear up these physics issues on here.

[Mr.House]

Funkdrspot wrote...

FBI-Azzurri wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Damn, read OP post. Sounds like they are going for a BS reason for Normandy fleeing. Given there was no logical one i can hardly say i'm surprised.

OdanUrr in the IT thread figured it out.



"All Fleets: The Crucible is armed. Disengage and head to the rendezvous point."

Yep. That pretty much explains that dialogue in the picture and why the Normandy fled through the Mass Relay, but how will they explain why Harbinger left Shepard alive? Will they even try to explain it at all? My guess is no.

I'd imagine it goes something like this:

- The citadel IS the catalyst
- The catalyst controls the reapers
- Blowing up the crucible while it's connected to the catalyst would likely blow up both
- The catalyst isn't suicidal

So then why where the Reapers trying to destory it and can destory it in mE3?

[Mcfly616]

Funkdrspot wrote...

zovoes wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

So Shepard somehow survives in Destroy.....and is either.floating in space alone, never to be seen again.....or.....he's superman and can fall to Earth on an exploding super structure, the size of the asteroid that killed the Dinosaurs

it's 44 km long, the asteroid that you are taking about was about 10km long....... there are five arms to the citadel, just think about that for a sec. just to put that into terms we can get the bigest nuke ever made was a 50 megaton bomb, the astirod that killed the dinos was almost 100 tetratons of boom.

Lord with this again.

The reason an asteroid is dangerous isn't just its size, it's the SPEED it's carrying. The Arms to the citadel are basically traveling at virtually nothing for speed. It's like comparing a rocket to a turtle.

And you can't even begin to figure the kinetic energy of an object until you know the speed so your end point is also moot.

You have a point.....regardless, it is not possible for a human being to survive such an event....you know it.....I know it......science fiction or not.....unless he is superman, he does not survive....he is a man

Modifié par Mcfly616, 23 juin 2012 - 03:24 .

[Yubz]

Funkdrspot wrote...

I'd imagine it goes something like this:

- The citadel IS the catalyst
- The catalyst controls the reapers
- Blowing up the crucible while it's connected to the catalyst would likely blow up both
- The catalyst isn't suicidal

In that case destroying the Crucible while it's connected would be better than actually using the Crucible.
Destroying your own superweapon gives you better results than actually using it.... yeah still doesn't make any sense.

[Funkdrspot]

Mr.House wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...

FBI-Azzurri wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Damn, read OP post. Sounds like they are going for a BS reason for Normandy fleeing. Given there was no logical one i can hardly say i'm surprised.

OdanUrr in the IT thread figured it out.



"All Fleets: The Crucible is armed. Disengage and head to the rendezvous point."

Yep. That pretty much explains that dialogue in the picture and why the Normandy fled through the Mass Relay, but how will they explain why Harbinger left Shepard alive? Will they even try to explain it at all? My guess is no.

I'd imagine it goes something like this:

- The citadel IS the catalyst
- The catalyst controls the reapers
- Blowing up the crucible while it's connected to the catalyst would likely blow up both
- The catalyst isn't suicidal

So then why where the Reapers trying to destory it and can destory it in mE3?

They were trying to destroy it before it hooked up. As far as the 'after' part, I guess we'll have to wait for EC.

[KLGChaos]

The problem is, if the endings stay the exact same, with just some extra scenes, it still negates a lot of premise that both ME2 and 3 established with EDI and the Geth-- that organic and synthetic life can co-exist without needing to be merged into one life form. If you're playing a good guy, you either destroy all the reapers, but also kill your friend and entire race of allies, going against everything you fought for or you're forced to turn everyone into some genetic freak of nature and homogenize everyone. Just doesn't feel right.

[Funkdrspot]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...

zovoes wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

So Shepard somehow survives in Destroy.....and is either.floating in space alone, never to be seen again.....or.....he's superman and can fall to Earth on an exploding super structure, the size of the asteroid that killed the Dinosaurs

it's 44 km long, the asteroid that you are taking about was about 10km long....... there are five arms to the citadel, just think about that for a sec. just to put that into terms we can get the bigest nuke ever made was a 50 megaton bomb, the astirod that killed the dinos was almost 100 tetratons of boom.

Lord with this again.

The reason an asteroid is dangerous isn't just its size, it's the SPEED it's carrying. The Arms to the citadel are basically traveling at virtually nothing for speed. It's like comparing a rocket to a turtle.

And you can't even begin to figure the kinetic energy of an object until you know the speed so your end point is also moot.

You have a point.....regardless, it is not possible for a human being to survive such an event....you know it.....I know it......science fiction or not.....unless he is superman, he does not survive....he is a man

Yep, this is something i expect EC to clarify.

[Funkdrspot]

Yubz wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...

I'd imagine it goes something like this:

- The citadel IS the catalyst
- The catalyst controls the reapers
- Blowing up the crucible while it's connected to the catalyst would likely blow up both
- The catalyst isn't suicidal

In that case destroying the Crucible while it's connected would be better than actually using the Crucible.
Destroying your own superweapon gives you better results than actually using it.... yeah still doesn't make any sense.

I would ask why but I know I don't feel like going down that angsty, pedantic rabbit hole.

[devSin]

Funkdrspot wrote...

They were trying to destroy it before it hooked up. As far as the 'after' part, I guess we'll have to wait for EC.

No, they do destroy the Crucible if you screw around too much after the Catalyst.

Not "try to". They actually destroy it, and you have to reload because you suck and lost the war.

[liggy002]

How could they all be standing on the Normandy if the Normandy really crashed on the planet? And, if they somehow rebuilt the Normandy or repaired it, how did Shepard and company find it?  Was the planet that they crashed on reachable with the Mass Relays destroyed?  Was there a tracking device or Alliance tracking on the Normandy?   The scene with Shepard present must be the result of the destroy ending.

Modifié par liggy002, 23 juin 2012 - 03:41 .

[Yubz]

Funkdrspot wrote...

Yubz wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...

I'd imagine it goes something like this:

- The citadel IS the catalyst
- The catalyst controls the reapers
- Blowing up the crucible while it's connected to the catalyst would likely blow up both
- The catalyst isn't suicidal

In that case destroying the Crucible while it's connected would be better than actually using the Crucible.
Destroying your own superweapon gives you better results than actually using it.... yeah still doesn't make any sense.

I would ask why but I know I don't feel like going down that angsty, pedantic rabbit hole.

Should be obvious why, you'll figure it out eventually.

[HinduCowGirl]

Not sure if this has already been said, but there is no Shepard in that pic
Both Ash and Kaiden are present in that pic. Look at Kaidens nose. One of them will of course be gone in the EC depending on who you left to die look at the legs that are on Talis left side, those look like Javic's legs.

I'm not going to be happy if Shepard does not survive and get to reunite with her LI!

[UKillMeLongTime]

@Fantazyer No all the content is in the final mission after the long walk through London

that tweet means ya just need to replay the beam hit right?
so nothing new until then if i'm reading this correctly....?

[liggy002]

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Not sure if this has already been said, but there is no Shepard in that pic
Both Ash and Kaiden are present in that pic. Look at Kaidens nose. One of them will of course be gone in the EC depending on who you left to die look at the legs that are on Talis left side, those look like Javic's legs.

I'm not going to be happy if Shepard does not survive and get to reunite with her LI!

This still begs the question, how did all the squadmates reunite since the Normandy crashed on the jungle planet?  And were they all standing on a repaired Normandy?

[Mcfly616]

UKillMeLongTime wrote...

@Fantazyer No all the content is in the final mission after the long walk through London

that tweet means ya just need to replay the beam hit right?
so nothing new until then if i'm reading this correctly....?

I dont think thats correct.....I just got done.listening to the 10 minute interview with Casey and Mac on YouTube......they said "everything after the save before Cronos Station, is Extended Cut territory"

[ThatDancingTurian]

liggy002 wrote...

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Not sure if this has already been said, but there is no Shepard in that pic
Both Ash and Kaiden are present in that pic. Look at Kaidens nose. One of them will of course be gone in the EC depending on who you left to die look at the legs that are on Talis left side, those look like Javic's legs.

I'm not going to be happy if Shepard does not survive and get to reunite with her LI!

This still begs the question, how did all the squadmates reunite since the Normandy crashed on the jungle planet?  And were they all standing on a repaired Normandy?

My guess? They're on the Normandy on the jungle planet, it's not really repaired. They all survived the crash.

[UKillMeLongTime]

not repaired and it looked totaled
now if they are making it the memorial and leaving but if in my red ending shep walks in on crutches beat to hell i;ll be happy

but it aint happening and i'll be in skyrim that day

[Mcfly616]

liggy002 wrote...

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Not sure if this has already been said, but there is no Shepard in that pic
Both Ash and Kaiden are present in that pic. Look at Kaidens nose. One of them will of course be gone in the EC depending on who you left to die look at the legs that are on Talis left side, those look like Javic's legs.

I'm not going to be happy if Shepard does not survive and get to reunite with her LI!

This still begs the question, how did all the squadmates reunite since the Normandy crashed on the jungle planet?  And were they all standing on a repaired Normandy?

Just because you only see Joker and 2 squadmates get out at the end, doesn't mean that the rest of the crew isn't on board when they left Earth.....

But, yeah idk how they're going to explain the two squadmates abandoning you on the beam run, or Shepard surviving without Indoc Theory.....its just unreal

[devSin]

All the squad is already on the ship. They ran away from the battle and left you to die. This is already in the game (even though only two come out, it can be anyone from the squad, so they're all on the ship). Your entire squad is on the jungle planet, and this is apparently where they will stay.

The Normandy wasn't totally destroyed, so I expect the crew deck is just still intact. Many years of forced breeding (and inbreeding) yet remain.

Closure!

Modifié par devSin, 23 juin 2012 - 04:00 .

[HinduCowGirl]

liggy002 wrote...

This still begs the question, how did all the squadmates reunite since the Normandy crashed on the jungle planet?  And were they all standing on a repaired Normandy?

All we can do is speculate until tuesday I hope, and want to believe that they'll give us an happy ending too. If they've been listening to us, they'd better add a happy conclusion for us who wanted and strived for that

[UKillMeLongTime]

the two that don't follow you is a hard loop to fix. We hear that no one made it. We would have heard a everyone but Shep retreat but the order was to get to that beam....

[Khajiit Jzargo]

The first pic looked like me like they were all looking at the memorial wall honoring the dead, if its actually that, that's a huge plus for extended cut already.

[im commander shep]

Mr.House wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...

FBI-Azzurri wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Damn, read OP post. Sounds like they are going for a BS reason for Normandy fleeing. Given there was no logical one i can hardly say i'm surprised.

OdanUrr in the IT thread figured it out.



"All Fleets: The Crucible is armed. Disengage and head to the rendezvous point."

Yep. That pretty much explains that dialogue in the picture and why the Normandy fled through the Mass Relay, but how will they explain why Harbinger left Shepard alive? Will they even try to explain it at all? My guess is no.

I'd imagine it goes something like this:

- The citadel IS the catalyst
- The catalyst controls the reapers
- Blowing up the crucible while it's connected to the catalyst would likely blow up both
- The catalyst isn't suicidal

So then why where the Reapers trying to destory it and can destory it in mE3?

why give shepard the option to ever reach the rainbow tubes and tell him how to destroy them all. Quite clearly the catalyst is suicidal or really does think he has convinced shepard to control or techno rape them all rather than destroy.

[myrmedon419]

Holding judgment - remember you could have a coffin for Sheppard in ME2 if you killed him at the collector base. Maybe this screenshot is for a dead hero and not a live one?

[CuseGirl]

Funkdrspot wrote...

zovoes wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...
So Shepard somehow survives in Destroy.....and is either.floating in space alone, never to be seen again.....or.....he's superman and can fall to Earth on an exploding super structure, the size of the asteroid that killed the Dinosaurs

it's 44 km long, the asteroid that you are taking about was about 10km long....... there are five arms to the citadel, just think about that for a sec. just to put that into terms we can get the bigest nuke ever made was a 50 megaton bomb, the astirod that killed the dinos was almost 100 tetratons of boom.

Lord with this again.

The reason an asteroid is dangerous isn't just its size, it's the SPEED it's carrying. The Arms to the citadel are basically traveling at virtually nothing for speed. It's like comparing a rocket to a turtle.

And you can't even begin to figure the kinetic energy of an object until you know the speed so your end point is also moot.

So, you're saying that the Citadel arms, falling from outside of Earth's atmosphere (multiple arms at that) aren't nearly as dangerous as one asteroid? It's not the arms would just float onto Earth, they would still pickup massive speed.....