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[CuseGirl]

KLGChaos wrote...
The problem is, if the endings stay the exact same, with just some extra scenes, it still negates a lot of premise that both ME2 and 3 established with EDI and the Geth-- that organic and synthetic life can co-exist without needing to be merged into one life form. If you're playing a good guy, you either destroy all the reapers, but also kill your friend and entire race of allies, going against everything you fought for or you're forced to turn everyone into some genetic freak of nature and homogenize everyone. Just doesn't feel right.

The crux of everything that is wrong with the ending. And while I know Bioware had the "right" to do whatever they wanted with the ending, I can't comprehend why they think it's even remotely OK and why they think we'll keep buying their games afterward. It just makes no sense, at all. I still felt a shred of contempt from the writers (or the ending's writers) when I experienced the ending for the third time. There's no way they wrote that ending and thought players would want to experience it as much as they experienced the end of ME-2.

[VyseN1]

I get the feeling of a major retcon. Hoping for something good though.

[CuseGirl]

VyseN1 wrote...
I get the feeling of a major retcon. Hoping for something good though.

There has to be one. Large portions of the ending are incomprehensible, either based on the narrative or based on simple chronology/physics.

And if they don't include an ME-2 LI reunion, I'm trading my game back immediately.

[Lordofn00bs]

MegaSovereign wrote...

pro5 wrote...

So, EDI *does* in fact survive the ending... Interesting.

No she does not.

I dedicated a playthrough to getting her to walk out.

When I picked Control she walked out.

When I reloaded and picked Destroy she didn't.

fail lol on my Destroy ending he helped out EDI <.<

[Paradox6006]

Ummm couldn't that be before they go to Earth?

[Darth_Trethon]

Deventh wrote...

Yep i just saw that as well. Yay Shepard and Liara Tali doesn't die. I can die now happily.

There I fixed that for you.

[Lordofn00bs]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Even if the Breathe scene stays.....it doesn't make any SENSE.....he's on a mega structure that goes BOOM.....Not just any boom....its literally a collosal fireworks show.....hundreds of huge explosions all over the station, culminating in a grand finale supernova explosion.....

Oh....and if he still doesn't die from that, the whole space station is plummeting towards Earth, burning up upon re-entering the atmosphere, and then crashing into the planet

If Bioware or anybody thinks that is survivable(by Shepard or anybody on the planet) they probably never heard of the damn Dinosaurs or why they're not here today

lol fail the space station has a force field so most people on it survived and it doesn't plummet to Earth <.<

Modifié par Lordofn00bs, 24 juin 2012 - 02:32 .

[Versus Omnibus]

Lordofn00bs wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Even if the Breathe scene stays.....it doesn't make any SENSE.....he's on a mega structure that goes BOOM.....Not just any boom....its literally a collosal fireworks show.....hundreds of huge explosions all over the station, culminating in a grand finale supernova explosion.....

Oh....and if he still doesn't die from that, the whole space station is plummeting towards Earth, burning up upon re-entering the atmosphere, and then crashing into the planet

If Bioware or anybody thinks that is survivable(by Shepard or anybody on the planet) they probably never heard of the damn Dinosaurs or why they're not here today

lol fail the space station has a force field so most people on it survived and it doesn't plummet to Earth <.<

Since when did the Citadel fall to Earth? I never seen it doing so.

[albodibran]

 Bioware reminds me of Kanye West from the south park episode about fishdicks. they just dont understand it when someone tells them they're a gay fish. in other words if not one possible scene has shepard reuniting. then they are dead retarded. fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me. dont be a retard twice bioware. no redemption after EC so we will see

[Siansonea]

That's a nice atrium that the guy's office window overlooks.

[arkhine]

CuseGirl wrote...
And if they don't include an ME-2 LI reunion, I'm trading my game back immediately.

Everyone jumping the gun. I have my ME2 and ME3 CEs proudly on the shelf. ME2 one is beat up to hell from shipping and the Steelbook is chipped. ME3 one looks perfect. I even have that awful DAII SE on the shelf, one of the only games I didn't play to the end <_<

Point is, whatever BioWare does, they will still be on my shelf. 

[arkhine]

Lordofn00bs wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

pro5 wrote...

So, EDI *does* in fact survive the ending... Interesting.

No she does not.

I dedicated a playthrough to getting her to walk out.

When I picked Control she walked out.

When I reloaded and picked Destroy she didn't.

fail lol on my Destroy ending he helped out EDI <.<

Mine worked properly and EDI didn't appear. 

[SCJ90]

I...I...I must be blind because I can't see Sheperd!

[devSin]

Lordofn00bs wrote...

fail lol on my Destroy ending he helped out EDI <.<

It's finally canon that EDI and the geth cannot survive the destroy ending.

If you saw her emerge, it was a bug.

[Ronnocloki]

Funkdrspot wrote...

zovoes wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

So Shepard somehow survives in Destroy.....and is either.floating in space alone, never to be seen again.....or.....he's superman and can fall to Earth on an exploding super structure, the size of the asteroid that killed the Dinosaurs

it's 44 km long, the asteroid that you are taking about was about 10km long....... there are five arms to the citadel, just think about that for a sec. just to put that into terms we can get the bigest nuke ever made was a 50 megaton bomb, the astirod that killed the dinos was almost 100 tetratons of boom.

Lord with this again.

The reason an asteroid is dangerous isn't just its size, it's the SPEED it's carrying. The Arms to the citadel are basically traveling at virtually nothing for speed. It's like comparing a rocket to a turtle.

And you can't even begin to figure the kinetic energy of an object until you know the speed so your end point is also moot.

Even moving at a measly 1 meter per second an object with the citadel's mass would be carrying 0.17 terratons of kinetic energy.  I think it's safe to say that at any reasonable velocity life on earth would still be screwed.

[chemiclord]

CuseGirl wrote...
The crux of everything that is wrong with the ending. And while I know Bioware had the "right" to do whatever they wanted with the ending, I can't comprehend why they think it's even remotely OK and why they think we'll keep buying their games afterward. It just makes no sense, at all. I still felt a shred of contempt from the writers (or the ending's writers) when I experienced the ending for the third time. There's no way they wrote that ending and thought players would want to experience it as much as they experienced the end of ME-2.

I get the theory behind it.  They didn't want a "golden ending" because that would by default become the "right" choice, and they really didn't want a "right" choice.  They wanted a debate on the issue... they didn't want one option to be particularly better than the other.

They most certainly executed the theory wrong, to be sure, but the lack of a "golden ending" itself isn't the death knell to the ending.

[Commander_Corbin]

vivaladricas wrote...

Wonder what software they use out of curiosity. Custom stuff perhaps?

Yeah I went extra nerd there LOL

Also if Shep survies that means he crashed landed back on London which can clearly be seen from the breath scene. If they somehow fix it.....yeah I would have to replay all three cause my save files are gone.  Have to rebuy 2 and 3 as well.  Not thinking it will be neccessary. 

For some of the cinematics, it looks like they're editing with Adobe Premiere. I only know that because I'm a film student.

[Reorte]

chemiclord wrote...

I get the theory behind it.  They didn't want a "golden ending" because that would by default become the "right" choice, and they really didn't want a "right" choice.  They wanted a debate on the issue... they didn't want one option to be particularly better than the other.

They most certainly executed the theory wrong, to be sure, but the lack of a "golden ending" itself isn't the death knell to the ending.

It's a stupid idea anyway. What's the point in giving a choice if they're all crap? The idea should be for the player to make the right choice but the player has to earn it and think about it. The blatant, forced, obvious negative consequences just add insult to injury.

I suppose what really annoys me is creating this great universe only to gleefully destroy it. You've built something wonderful, why on earth do you want to wreck it?

[RukiaKuchki]

I've stoically stood by everything Bioware did with ME3 and the ending...I believe it was their creation to do with what they choose, and we were along for the ride (just changing the seats and colour of our ride). But now that the EC is getting palpably close...I really, really want there to be an ending where Shepard survives, and we see beyond the aftermath of the breath scene. If Shepard survives, it means that he has condemned an entire race to extinction to save himself. This is obviously not a nice thing to do(!) and out of character for a lot of peoples' Shepards, and it would be great to at least get a taste of the ramifications of this. Fingers crossed...

Modifié par RukiaKuchki, 24 juin 2012 - 11:39 .

[ssltrain]

Nvm

Modifié par ssltrain, 25 juin 2012 - 06:05 .

[ssltrain]

She's a full AI, so she should be dead according to the destroy ending no matter if she's in the ship or her body.

[jtrook]

TJX2045 wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Damn, read OP post. Sounds like they are going for a BS reason for Normandy fleeing. Given there was no logical one i can hardly say i'm surprised.

You must've missed the first picture with the quote underneath:



"Mac Walters reviews the scene where Joker disengages the fight on Earth."


<_<

We'll see how this'll work out.

That quote (for me) has already put the EC on a bad note. I understand them not rewriting the endings (resources, artistic whatever) but if the fleet stayed in the Sol system, why must the Normandy leave? Someone seriously needs to sit the writers down and talk about continuity 

[Mcfly616]

Lordofn00bs wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Even if the Breathe scene stays.....it doesn't make any SENSE.....he's on a mega structure that goes BOOM.....Not just any boom....its literally a collosal fireworks show.....hundreds of huge explosions all over the station, culminating in a grand finale supernova explosion.....

Oh....and if he still doesn't die from that, the whole space station is plummeting towards Earth, burning up upon re-entering the atmosphere, and then crashing into the planet

If Bioware or anybody thinks that is survivable(by Shepard or anybody on the planet) they probably never heard of the damn Dinosaurs or why they're not here today

lol fail the space station has a force field so most people on it survived and it doesn't plummet to Earth <.<

Haha no....you Fail lol....idc what sort of force field it had....i have eyes, the damn thing EXPLODED.....people are in pretty serious denial if they really tell themselves it didn't.....there were massive explosions all over the station....Citadel went all Michael Bay style.....sorry....haha

[JKA_Nozyspy]

TJX2045 wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Damn, read OP post. Sounds like they are going for a BS reason for Normandy fleeing. Given there was no logical one i can hardly say i'm surprised.

You must've missed the first picture with the quote underneath:



"Mac Walters reviews the scene where Joker disengages the fight on Earth."


<_<

We'll see how this'll work out.

I dont trust anyone who wears a flatcap inside, that just screams "I AM AN ARTISTE!" *Swooshes scarfe over shoulder and strides off*.