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Kepha wrote...

Chris Priestly tweeted "You no longer have to get to 4000 [EMS]".

http://twitter.com/B...248201529933824


Correct.  You now need 10000.

:devil:

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I hope they actually did fix it, cause I don't want to buy another month of Xbox live just to open up sp content

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CmndrFisher wrote...

If the SP EMS issue is fixed, (it should never have been an issue in the first place), then that is good.  However, I find it very discomforting that Bioware chooses to "reward" certain players and punish other players.  For those single players who have been faithful loyal cutomers for five years now, to be slapped in the face like this is undeniably bad, VERY BAD public relations on Bioware's part. 

To hear that kinda crap comming from a Bioware employee has left me with a very sour taste and I think it's time to move on.

I have purchased new, all three games.  I have bought swag.  I had convinced friends to play the games who otherwise may not have.  And now to be told , that because I chose not to play MP or get stupid apps on devices I don't have, that my involvement in the game is not as worthy as others?....

I will stop here because if I continue, what I really want to say will get me banned.


Quoted for truth and great justice.

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Star Wars Episode 6:   Emperor Palpatine gives Luke his lightsaber and tells him that he can strike him down but this wont necessarily assure order in the Universe. Oh, and all of the Jawas will have to die in the process. There is a fundamental problem with the Emperor being suicidal. IT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE!!! Throughout the whole narrative he was trying to kill Luke or turn him over to the dark side. Now, all of a sudden he is giving up his Empire and just trusting Luke to follow his ideals. Can you see how silly that would be if it were to be real? I sure hope so!

Now, just apply the above to Mass Effect. Shepard is Luke and the Empire is the Reapers. That is why the EC is pointless.

Modifié par liggy002, 23 juin 2012 - 06:16 .


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RamilVenoard

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Whybother wrote...

Kepha wrote...

Chris Priestly tweeted "You no longer have to get to 4000 [EMS]".

http://twitter.com/B...248201529933824


Correct.  You now need 10000.

:devil:


And guess what?! You can now buy EMS points with BioWare points!!! Doesn't that sound so much better guys?

#231
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really like and agree with the last 2 posts above.....the last one made me LOL.....truth....

Modifié par Landon7001, 23 juin 2012 - 06:22 .


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Landon7001

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@cmndr fisher .... exactly

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RamilVenoard

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Couldn't resist giving BioWare a crack in the ribs for succumbing to EA's greediness. Also don't expect that post, yours, or this one I'm making now to be around for too much longer. Since, of course, they are "off topic." AKA I'm pointing out BioWare's recent shortcomings.

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My guess is that it has been lowered to 3500 EMS.

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warrior256 wrote...

Wait, can someone explain for me what exactly is being said here?


I asked the same thing in another thread and it get locked, saying all answers are here. But actually this thread leaves a lot unsaid.

As best I can decipher it, Chris is saying:

1) The issue where you couldn't experience all endings without using multiplayer or iOS to raise readiness was deliberate, not a bug, never mind what we said at the time about this not being true.

2) We are changing it (probably in the EC or a patch shortly afterwards) so the EMS cutoff for the "best" ending is no longer 4000 (presumably this means it will be lower, and in the range you can achieve with a readiness of 50%).

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Edit: I am a hotheaded idiot.
I missed this tweet: 
http://twitter.com/B...248201529933824

Modifié par Pakundo, 23 juin 2012 - 06:50 .


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*Post no longer required as heads have cooled*

Modifié par nullobject, 23 juin 2012 - 06:50 .


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nullobject wrote...

Pakundo wrote...

So no, the SP EMS has not been touched unless Bioware specifically says they have lowered the EMS requirements with a patch that comes with Extended Cut.


Thread comprehension fail.

EDIT: jsut to help you out:
http://twitter.com/B...248201529933824


Check out the post I edited mere seconds after you posted yours.

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Neverwinter_Knight77

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Whybother wrote...

Kepha wrote...

Chris Priestly tweeted "You no longer have to get to 4000 [EMS]".

http://twitter.com/B...248201529933824


Correct.  You now need 10000.

:devil:

That would be hilarious.

#240
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I'm very happy BioWare did this. Forcing players to play MP in order to get the best SP ending was nonsense and pissed a lot of people off.

So much better this way. Thanks BW!

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i just hope that the crew and shepard is reunited in the destroy 4000+ ending

#242
Karmicmoogle

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Sure some statements in the past were misleading but at least it is being changed now. Better late than never

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Karmicmoogle wrote...

Sure some statements in the past were misleading but at least it is being changed now. Better late than never


No a crap ton of statements were flat out lies, followed by vagueness then more twitter.  The statement about rewarding players who played multiplayer/ios apps more than those who invested in the single player story over 5 years was a slap in the face.

When is Bioware going to acknowledge that they lied and apologise for it.

Modifié par coolbeans, 23 juin 2012 - 07:25 .


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iakus wrote...

xMellowhype wrote...

Thje OP literally clarified nothing.


Well, it did clarify that I'm not touching DA3 if there's even a whiff of MP in it Image IPB


As far as I understand, BW already confirmed that DA3 will have MP, since everyone loves MP in ME3. Right...
I'm just worried that even if they lowered requirement, it still will be nearly impossible in SP. I personally might have missed couple of eavesdropping quests and one quest was bugged.
Well, I'm really disappointed that in both the game and the way BW treated their loyal customers. I hope that their new fanbase will work out for them.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

My guess is that it has been lowered to 3500 EMS.


why do you guys have such a hard to getting ems point  i have 7650 point and i did it easily.Image IPB

and if bioware pisses me off with the extended cut  i am becoming to blood broker again. Image IPB

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While fixing the EMS issue the good, Chris Priestly admits that it was intentional that we couldn't get all endings without MP. I've always suspected as much. MP is a possible cash cow and anything that motivates people to play MP makes business sense.

But it is insulting to everyone who played the ME games for the story, even more so after the promise that exactly this wouldn't happen. Personally, I can live with it since I have a PC and can cheat, but this doesn't inspire confidence in future story-driven titles.

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Blood drinker 7777 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

My guess is that it has been lowered to 3500 EMS.


why do you guys have such a hard to getting ems point  i have 7650 point and i did it easily.Image IPB


The point is it is impossible to get greater than 4000 ems using singleplayer alone as they didn't include enough mutually exclusive war assets in the game. Which flies in the face of all their promises that multiplayer was not required to access all content.

If you got 7650, the. You either mean TMS not EMS or played some multiplayer

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alec1898

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Hey, good news! :D

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Kepha wrote...

Chris Priestly tweeted "You no longer have to get to 4000 [EMS]".

http://twitter.com/B...248201529933824


Amazing how to just get a simple straight forward answer, you have a better chance of getting it on twitter then you do on the developers own social network. 

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So hopefully the SP EMS issue is resolved - although the OP has left it all up in the air somewhat.

Would have been helpful to have more of an idea of how it has been changed and what value we now need to aim for... but I will give you guys the benefit of the doubt and say "thank you" for finally addressing the issue.