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[Emerald Rift]

That sounds like good news, thank you.

[legion999]

whatsdafus wrote...

I dont get what everyone is complaining about when it comes to SP.


i didnt play a lick of MP, used the ios datapad and had infiltrator... i had 7300+ ems easily.

<facepalm>

[Gtacatalina]

Wow I'm gone for 24hours and the forums are erupting red,green and blue!

Just like to say hi to the guys who posted on all the locked down threads on this issue, looks like we've been shafted oops I mean shifted to this sticky thread now!


What a vague post Mr Priestly. What a suprise and using the twittface again to answer important questions that you know very well people on the BSN having waiting to hear about.

Well this just proves this was intentional right from the start to get people to play multiplayer.

Modifié par Gtacatalina, 23 juin 2012 - 11:20 .

[Lalalandia]

Hi Gtacatalina, how foolish of us to have kept posting where Mr Priestly had asked us to when he posts the 'answer' in an entirely different forum <facepalm>

Alas I still can't trust this statement given it's blatant revisionism ("extra work (multiplayer, importing a save, playing the iOS games, etc)"and unfortunate phrasing ('including comprehensive SP play through') when from the start they have always assured us these were alternate avenues to the 'absolute best ending'.

[Simotech]

good news

[coolbeans]

Hey Gtacatalina! The journey from thread to thread, lockdown to lokdown continues, with the hope that the next lockdown will be the one where Chris actually gives a straigh answer.

Now can someone mix that line to the quantum leap intro.

[paul165]

Well I suppose that is as close as we are going to get to an admission that they lied. So pretty much our worst assumptions are correct that they did deliberately lie to us in order to force us into MP oh wait sorry 'reward us' and then ignored the issue for the best part of 4 months when they got called on it.

Thanks Bioware I feel so grateful.

Although it still doesn't say you can obtain all endings in SP:

"If you don't play MP, you have to find other ways raise to raise your EMS before attempting to retake Earth, including a comprehensive single player play through" /sic

Whatever that means as even excluding the typo it's not exactly clear as it says "including" SP rather than "such as" so it could just mean they are doing another FB app or something equally retarded - like the EC for +500EMS:sick:

Feel sorry for Allen though who was fighting the good fight on the DA forums about this.

Pretty much confirms all my worst fears about the direction Bioware is going still I'm sure that I can find someone else who wants my money:whistle:

[PillarBiter]

so basically, it doesn't ;atter anymore totally, if you do extras or not, the ending will be even more the same for everyone everytime?

[The Night Mammoth]

Why is it so f*cking difficult to give a straight f*cking answer?

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 23 juin 2012 - 12:27 .

[gpost]

Whybother wrote...

Kepha wrote...

Chris Priestly tweeted "You no longer have to get to 4000 [EMS]".

http://twitter.com/B...248201529933824

Correct.  You now need 10000.

My bet is that it's something like 3000 or so

[Forsythia]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Why is it so f*cking difficult to give a straight f*cking answer?

Because telling us this was intented all along, just to push people into multiplayer, would be admitting that they lied. But, they're not saying it was a bug, either.

I've drawn my conclusion. This is no way to treat your fans and customers. If they were upfront about this from the very first announcement of the multiplayer, it wouldn't be so bad. Yeah, there would've been an even bigger outrage (as a lot of people were/are opposed of multiplayer being shoehorned in), but simply denying it, closing threads, telling us we're idiots for not doing everything to get the maximum EMS, even if we're all metagaming with guides to hell and back... that's infuriating.

[alsonamedbort]

MrCry0 wrote...

so basically, it doesn't ;atter anymore totally, if you do extras or not, the ending will be even more the same for everyone everytime?

Good grief, what do you want from them?

[Little Princess Peach]

Chris Priestly wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Does this mean that SP EMS has been fixed?

That would be one way to phrase it.

that is thebest news ever

[7isMagic]

This may be a bit premature, since we don't know for "sure" if this is fixed yet.  But I feel it important to extend my deepest appreciation to everyone here who kept this issue alive these past few months.  And to those who crunched the numbers in order to prove the SP EMS deficiency.     It's been a rocky road - lockdown after lockdown, post after post, waiting for three months for an answer only to be met with protracted ambiguity yesterday.   

Here's hoping our efforts have FINALLY paid off.   (((Group Hug!!!!))) 

Modifié par 7isMagic, 23 juin 2012 - 01:40 .

[TheDonk95]

Yes!!! Thank you Bioware! (and Prestly).

[Szuli]

7isMagic wrote...

This may be a bit premature, since we don't know for "sure" if this is fixed yet.  But I feel it important to extend my deepest appreciation to everyone here who kept this issue alive these past few months.  And to those who crunched the numbers in order to prove the SP EMS deficiency.     It's been a rocky road - lockdown after lockdown, post after post, waiting for three months for an answer only to be met with protracted ambiguity yesterday.   

Here's hoping our efforts have FINALLY paid off.   (((Group Hug!!!!))) 

Agree and *joins in group hug* <3

Modifié par Szuli, 23 juin 2012 - 02:01 .

[Icesong]

How wonderful that the OP was so stupidly vague that it needed a tweet to clarify it. Kinda like the ending. Bodes well for the EC.

[T-N-Z]

5000 EMS is enough for the best ending?

[shepskisaac]

Forsythia wrote...

Because telling us this was intented all along, just to push people into multiplayer, would be admitting that they lied.

But he did just that, he did say it was intended:

Chris Priestly wrote...

The original experience of the game was meant to reward players who did extra work (multiplayer, importing a save, playing the iOS games, etc) with greater levels of success in the end

Not like anyone thought differently of course. It was never a "bug"/omission.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 23 juin 2012 - 02:53 .

[tschamp]

Chris Priestly wrote...

People have been asking about the EMS and how it changes in the Extended Cut DLC.

The original experience of the game was meant to reward players who did extra work (multiplayer, importing a save, playing the iOS games, etc) with greater levels of success in the end, which is appropriate to a story about a war that needs every possible advantage in order to win.  But now that we are moving to a post-launch period and have additional content for the endings, we wanted to make it easier for all players to experience even the best-cast endings.  Playing multiplayer is just one component is a sea of variables that can affect your ending.  If you don't play MP, you have to find other ways raise to raise your EMS before attempting to retake Earth, including a comprehensive single player play through.  Likewise if you suffered some blows to your EMS prior to assaulting Earth, MP is a great way to raise your score high enough for the final assault.

Keep in mind that the results of having a very low EMS rating can have distinct effects on the outcome of the game in teh same way having a high EMS can.

You do realize that Mass Effect is a single player game? I didn't think anyone had to point that out to you, but you brought up Multiplayer game 5 times in your OP. A multiplayer game appeals to those that like multiplayer games. A iso requires a phone to play it. Basically, you are saying you need to spend $200 on a phone, $100 for a  decent data service plan, $100 on internet(DSL or Broadband), and various amounts to subscribe to online services to access multiplayer on top of the $60+ for the game. It must be nice to think people have that much money to spend to get the "best" ending. Once again, poor planning and poor customer service. Going from what posted since your OP, it is still required to spend all this money and play these poorly designed outsourced games to get the best ending. Way to show that Bioware is "listening".

[MegaSovereign]

tschamp I agree with everything you said except the last bit.

It's been confirmed that the EMS requirement will be lowered.

[tschamp]

MegaSovereign wrote...

tschamp I agree with everything you said except the last bit.

It's been confirmed that the EMS requirement will be lowered.

Can you post a link for me please because I am just going from Chris' posts on this thread.

[spiriticon]

Awesome!!! Lowering the EMS requirement is exactly what I wanted. I don't have an Ipad nor do I have an Xbox Gold account at the moment and this news is great.

[Iakus]

IsaacShep wrote...

Forsythia wrote...

Because telling us this was intented all along, just to push people into multiplayer, would be admitting that they lied.

But he did just that, he did say it was intended:

Chris Priestly wrote...

The original experience of the game was meant to reward players who did extra work (multiplayer, importing a save, playing the iOS games, etc) with greater levels of success in the end

Not like anyone thought differently of course. It was never a "bug"/omission.

Before release, they claimed no single player content was restricted by multiplayer...

Oops

[Jvolikas]

7isMagic wrote...

This may be a bit premature, since we don't know for "sure" if this is fixed yet.  But I feel it important to extend my deepest appreciation to everyone here who kept this issue alive these past few months.  And to those who crunched the numbers in order to prove the SP EMS deficiency.     It's been a rocky road - lockdown after lockdown, post after post, waiting for three months for an answer only to be met with protracted ambiguity yesterday.   

Here's hoping our efforts have FINALLY paid off.   (((Group Hug!!!!))) 

Well said!  We all deserve a round of applause for our dedication and perseverance to this issue!