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[DistantUtopia]

Jedifan421 wrote...

Serious question: I haven't played Mass Effect 3 since March 13. My Galactic Readiness is at 50%. When I beat it on March 13, it was 85%. I got all the "best possible endings". So do I now have to grind back up to 85% again and waste precious hours of my life or no? Because from what I read, the EMS SP issue hasn't been fixed.

To be fair, you only need to grind so that EMS is above the 4000/5000 mark.  But as someone aleady posted, it seems like the "Original Intent" was to "reward" players who did their darndest to bring up EMS.  Now, post-"whatever", they want to allow SP players to "experience the same thing" as long as they follow a specific playthrough.

So does this mean they "fixed" the SP issue?  To me, yes.  Does it negate the fact they told us before that "MP is not required" for all the endings?  Seems to me like it just dug themselves in a deeper hole.

[Darth_Acheron47]

Ambeth wrote...

Chris, I don't think I understand. How is anything you said different from how it is currently? We were told before that doing a complete SP would allow us to get the 'best' ending. ("Best" being extraordinarily subjective, as it turns out.) Are you saying that a complete SP playthrough can now get ALL the endings?


I am not even touching that last bit, although it's giving me all sorts of things to think about. Trying not to get my hopes up.

This.

Personally, I feel like it turned from "rewarding" people who play MP into "penalizing" those of us that don't. I want to be able to enjoy the game and all the content without having to play MP, as was promised before release.

Is that an option or not?

[ratzerman]

That's more than a little vague.

I never get the breath scene at the end, even after getting my EMS past 6000 through MP. Will whatever adjustments you've made fix this bug? I'm not the only one who experienced this.

[bonzrobby]

I am cautiously optimistic about the EMS being fixed.

I have meta gamed a number of play troughs for ME2 and ME3 on the PS3 to try and get the breathe scene.
And have scoured the internet for anything about raising EMS without MP or the ios apps.
I have found a number of checklists and even bought the strategy guide which was worthless in regards too the EMS, and war assets.
I always fall 200 to 300 points shy of 4,000 EMS.

[blue water]

I don't know how the EC will work out, but I'm preparded for the possibilty that my ME experience may be winding down. With that said, I'd like to say is that I've always been curious about MP. I have XBOX Live, so I've given it a shot because the postives out weighed the negatives. I am thankful for the experience. I'm also very sympathetic toward those who are not able to do MP for whatever reason and believe that the promotional material should have bee more forthcoming. I expect more of this in the future. Gaming just isn't what it use to be.

Modifié par blue water, 22 juin 2012 - 07:50 .

[Ieldra]

The best way to fix this would be to raise the default Readiness to 55%. That way it's still very difficult to get 4K EMS without SP, but it's possible. The best TMS I got in a really thorough game was 7485, that would make about 4100 at 55% readiness.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 22 juin 2012 - 07:46 .

[alienatedflea]

Jedifan421 wrote...

Serious question: I haven't played Mass Effect 3 since March 13. My Galactic Readiness is at 50%. When I beat it on March 13, it was 85%. I got all the "best possible endings". So do I now have to grind back up to 85% again and waste precious hours of my life or no? Because from what I read, the EMS SP issue hasn't been fixed.

yes...thats why EC will do bad because you get penalized if you just want to PLAY the single player campaign...even if you complete every fetch mission in ME3...you still need to grind multiplayer to get the "best" ending...which is horse crap

[Unschuld]

Chris Priestly wrote...

People have been asking about the EMS and how it changes in the Extended Cut DLC.

The original experience of the game was meant to reward players who did extra work (multiplayer, importing a save, playing the iOS games, etc) with greater levels of success in the end, which is appropriate to a story about a war that needs every possible advantage in order to win.  But now that we are moving to a post-launch period and have additional content for the endings, we wanted to make it easier for all players to experience even the best-cast endings.  Playing multiplayer is just one component is a sea of variables that can affect your ending.  If you don't play MP, you have to find other ways raise to raise your EMS before attempting to retake Earth, including a comprehensive single player play through.  Likewise if you suffered some blows to your EMS prior to assaulting Earth, MP is a great way to raise your score high enough for the final assault.

Keep in mind that the results of having a very low EMS rating can have distinct effects on the outcome of the game in teh same way having a high EMS can.

NICE.
Though I'll still play MP, so I guess this is a non-issue for me.
Cheers, one Chris to another.

[The dead fish]

viggorrah wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Does this mean that SP EMS has been fixed?

That would be one way to phrase it.

I like the way this sounds..

How can you say you like it, he doesn't even tell how. It's maybe just a false statement. Remember, Bioware has told and repeated we didn't have to play multiplayer for the solo, but it wasn't true at all.  And now, they " say, it is more or less fixed.  "
How about they tell us more on this matter, to see if it will be enough ? Yeah, that would suck if they do another mistake or lie again about this issue...

Modifié par Sylvianus, 22 juin 2012 - 07:54 .

[LazyTechGuy]

I don't understand. Is this a fix that will be included in the EC DLC or over time as you add additional DLCs?


EDIT:  I'm an idiot.  Should've paid attention to the title there.

Modifié par LazyTechGuy, 22 juin 2012 - 07:56 .

[Iakus]

Sounds suspiciously like those who can't/won't do multiplayer were deliberately penalized in their playthroughs. Rather than having multiplayer being merely "an alternate path" as originally claimed

Sometimes I hate being right.

[Cutlass Jack]

I'm guessing that it means they lowered the numbers needed to get the best endings, rather than change the EMS.

[insomniac13]

C'mon Chris - Being vague helps no one!

[Hoid]

Chris Priestly wrote...

People have been asking about the EMS and how it changes in the Extended Cut DLC.

The original experience of the game was meant to reward players who did extra work (multiplayer, importing a save, playing the iOS games, etc) with greater levels of success in the end, which is appropriate to a story about a war that needs every possible advantage in order to win.  But now that we are moving to a post-launch period and have additional content for the endings, we wanted to make it easier for all players to experience even the best-cast endings.  Playing multiplayer is just one component is a sea of variables that can affect your ending.  If you don't play MP, you have to find other ways raise to raise your EMS before attempting to retake Earth, including a comprehensive single player play through.  Likewise if you suffered some blows to your EMS prior to assaulting Earth, MP is a great way to raise your score high enough for the final assault.

Keep in mind that the results of having a very low EMS rating can have distinct effects on the outcome of the game in teh same way having a high EMS can.

tl;dr
Standard PR double talk

[rowan93]

So, do I not have to play multiplayer anymore to get the equivalent of what I would get by playing it previously? Please answer this, your post does not make this clear.

[Ravennus]

Here's my constructive criticism:

I'll believe it when I see it, even though your post is quite vague and I'm not even entirely sure what you are even saying Chris.

I'm not going to jump to conclusions, as I've been burned many times before by your team, which include pre-release statements which turned out to be contrary to the actual design of the game.

[Carlthestrange]

This news is pleasing to my ears.

[Szuli]

iakus wrote...

Sounds suspiciously like those who can't/won't do multiplayer were deliberately penalized in their playthroughs. Rather than having multiplayer being merely "an alternate path" as originally claimed

Sometimes I hate being right.

I agree.

On another note, I'm wondering about this part:

"have additional content for the endings"

What exactly does this mean? <_<

[Lalalandia]

+1 for blunt clarity

At the moment the statement can be read two ways:

A) We fixed it so comprehensive SP playthroughs can see all endings

We always meant for you to play MP or iOS or FB games to see everything

If it's A then great they've fixed and I can finally get all endings. If it's B then all of those pre-release statements about not forcing MP on anybody are exposed as disingenuous at best.

[Szuli]

You know, it's pretty sad that people have to thank you and be excited about some feature that might be finally implemented in the game that was promised before...

[DistantUtopia]

Lalalandia wrote...

+1 for blunt clarity

At the moment the statement can be read two ways:

A) We fixed it so comprehensive SP playthroughs can see all endings

We always meant for you to play MP or iOS or FB games to see everything

If it's A then great they've fixed and I can finally get all endings. If it's B then all of those pre-release statements about not forcing MP on anybody are exposed as disingenuous at best.

Much better articulated than I could have said

[LT123]

Lalalandia wrote...

+1 for blunt clarity

At the moment the statement can be read two ways:

A) We fixed it so comprehensive SP playthroughs can see all endings

We always meant for you to play MP or iOS or FB games to see everything

If it's A then great they've fixed and I can finally get all endings. If it's B then all of those pre-release statements about not forcing MP on anybody are exposed as disingenuous at best.

Must...resist...quoting....Shepard....

I would also like clarification on this. Are the requirements to get the breath scene lowered? What exactly has changed?

[Szuli]

So now the big(ish, there was a much bigger thread before that was locked down a month ago) SP EMS value thread has been locked. I wonder how long this one will stay open.

[J.Random]

Another "there won't be A, B, C ending" thing. I don't believe a word from EAware employee, so I'll just wait for reviews made by fans.

And even if it's true, then this:

Szuli wrote...

You know, it's pretty sad that people have to thank you and be excited about some feature that might be finally implemented in the game that was promised before...

Totally agree.

Modifié par J.Random, 22 juin 2012 - 08:12 .

[Ravennus]

Lockdown? Really? *sigh*

Here's the post I was writing on our 'SP EMS' thread before it was just closed.....


The new sticky does nothing to resolve the issue, and just serves to re-ignite my long simmering bitterness over this situation.

The tone is still condescending and the post itself is very vague.
He basically comes out and tells us that they are 'throwing us a bone' even though we apparently suck at the game and were penalized for not doing everything we could in the fight for Earth.

I'm sorry, but I DID EVERYTHING I COULD!
(in SP, which was promised to be all that was needed)
I imported great saves from all previous games, made excellent decisions, scanned every planet, and completed every creeper fetch quest.... yet it still wasn't enough, contrary to every pre-release interview, sticky, and FAQ!

Even if they did actually fix some bugs in the EMS, or adjusted values, would it not be better to just own up to the mistake and actually tell us what was fixed?

Hell, even if they did 'fix' it, the new sticky just turns it to ash in my throat.
Yeah, because it was OUR fault we just weren't trying hard enough....