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[DubVee12]

I have been trying to romance Fenris for the 1st time on my lastest playthrough of DA2 (xbox360) without any success. I have restarted from saves back several hours at least a half dozen times because for whatever reason I cannot get Fenris to like me enough or something (a bug perhaps?). 

My 1st try I slept with Isabela first and then told her it was a fling hoping it wouldn't effect anything. However, after I completed Fenris's personal quest (when he's at the mansion) I picked a heart option "Don't go" but he left. I continued playing thinking maybe my friendship wasn't high enough and the scene would trigger later, but it didn't. So I restarted.

During my second try I did everything the same except I said no to Isabella. This time after completing Fenris's quest, there was no heart option this time at all. So I kept playing, trying to get frienship levels up high but the romance scene never triggered.

I read on the wiki something about his questioning beliefs quest (which I had done) being tied to the romance so I looked it up on youtube. Apparently there is supposed to be a heart dialogue option saying "Just friends?" during this conversation. I had never gotten that dialogue so I replayed through again and have still been unable to get that option.

So my questions are, is there some super strict order of Fenris's quests I'm not doing correctly (I've done questioning beliefs and the book gift both before and after the personal quest) or is there a strict path of dialogue options you have to pick with him? Can I not flirt with Isabela at all (even act one)? Does it matter what happens with the elf girl? Do I need to have his friendship at a certain level before his personal quest? Basically, what do I need to do to get the heart dialogue option during the questioning beliefs conversation?  This is very frustrating and any help given would be much appreciated.

[coldwetn0se]

Okay, here is a safe route to take in getting a successful Fenris romance:

1) In Act 2, if you plan to flirt with anyone, do so BEFORE you go to talk to him at his mansion (first chat with him in Act.2). If you talk to him first, then go and flirt with other characters, it has been known to cause a problem with his romance initiating. Whether it is a true bug or not, I am unsure. Easiest way to ensure no problem, is just don't flirt with any other companion.

2) If possible (making sure his Friendship or Rivalry is over 50%) do his Questioning Beliefs BEFORE you head out of town with him to trigger "A Bitter Pill". In his QB, as you have seen from the Wiki, take the "Just Friends" heart option, and then feel free to move on to the Bitter Pill quest.

3) Again, make sure you do NOT have relations (or even flirt) at this point, with any other companion. This includes even after he ****SPOILER*******



leaves you




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Hope this helps. His romance seems trickier, and in some ways it sort of is, but it is definately worth it. Both his and Isabella's romance arcs are very well done, and slightly unexpected.

[DubVee12]

coldwetn0se wrote...

1) In Act 2, if you plan to flirt with anyone, do so BEFORE you go to talk to him at his mansion (first chat with him in Act.2). If you talk to him first, then go and flirt with other characters, it has been known to cause a problem with his romance initiating. Whether it is a true bug or not, I am unsure. Easiest way to ensure no problem, is just don't flirt with any other companion.

I see, that may have been the problem. I always talked to Fenris first as he was in hightown where you start out anyway. Thanks for the help, i'll try this out tomorrow and hope it works.

[txmn1016]

I actually just had this same problem last night. I ended up having to replay the same section multiple times before I could get it to work. Still not sure exactly what the problem was, but I ended up (on Xbox by the way), but so you know, before his companion quest I wasn't even close to being at 50 percent friendship/rivalry.

The way I finally got it to work was, I gave him his gift (the book) as the very beginning of Act 2. Went through his companion quest and did not give the elf girl a job. Got back to the estate after the quest and he's there waiting. Only there wasn't any option to ask him to stay. After that I got the "Questioning Beliefs" quest--went and did that, and when I went back to the estate he was there.

Before, I would get the option to ask him to stay but he wouldn't saying something like, "I think it's best for both of us if I don't," and then the flirt option in the later "Questioning Beliefs" conversation wouldn't appear--thus not allowing me to start a romance with him.

I'm thinking that my problem was ultimately that I gave the elf girl a job. That seems to be the only factor that made any real difference. But again, when I did this, there was no option to ask him to stay. I had to do with "Questioning Beliefs" first and have him come back.

[CuriousArtemis]

I am on the 360 and giving or not giving Orana the job does not affect anything except friendship and rivalry points. Fenris approves of both options anyway.

I very rarely flirted with anyone but Fenris in Act 2 so that might be your problem.

You do need to be at a certain level of friendship or rivalry to get the romance started. I am usually maxed out after finishing Bitter Pill.

Make sure you flirt with him in Speak to Fenris (first time you speak to him in Act 2).  This will trigger the romance.

Modifié par motomotogirl, 23 juin 2012 - 03:02 .

[DubVee12]

I've been wondering, perhaps I need a certain level of friendship for the flirt option to appear in questioning beliefs? From what I understand that dialogue option is important for the romance, but it's never been available to me.

Also good to know giving the elf girl a job doesn't effect the romance. I;m already goin out of character with this Hawke by not flirting with anyone besides Fenris.

Modifié par DubVee12, 23 juin 2012 - 04:59 .

[CuriousArtemis]

DubVee12 wrote...

I've been wondering, perhaps I need a certain level of friendship for the flirt option to appear in questioning beliefs? 

I feel like this is probably the culprit.  Since I'm always pretty darn close to 100% friendship even by Act 2 ... and lately I've been cheating so that I AM at 100% friendship even by Act 1 ... I think this is what's troubling you and messing up his romance, preventing it from triggering.

If the flirting is messing you up, it's a bug.  Although my flirty Hawke's usually end up with Anders, I'm SURE I've have one or two who flirted with Isabela or Merrill and ended up with Fenris.  In fact I could've sworn on my last playthrough that Merrill actually showed up at Hawke's mansion (he turned her down).  And the (Fenris) romance always works.

Theoretically, you can actually sleep with and break up with everyone before successfully triggering and completing Fenris' romance.  Gotta stick with him for the rest of the game, though.

Modifié par motomotogirl, 23 juin 2012 - 07:13 .

[DubVee12]

Just played through Fenris's questioning beliefs again today and finally got the "Just friends" flirt option. Only thing I did different was not flirting with Isabella (she didn't show up at the mansion), so that had to be the problem (dunno why though) rather than friendship. Hopefully this means the romance will work this time.

[coldwetn0se]

Glad to see it worked. You are not the first person to say they had a problem after flirting with Isabella; she seems to be problamatic with the Fenris romance. I have successfully flirted with Anders and accidently with Merril, and still been able to make the Fenris romance work, but if I am RPing a "flirty" Hawke, I do tend to do the flirting with whom ever else first, THEN visit Fenris, get QB, then start Bitter Pill. Just to be safe.

[DubVee12]

Yep, just played Fenris's personal quest and got the romance scene, finally!!!
Thanks to everyone for the help, especially you coldwetn0se!! Your little tip about the flirting bug(?) seems to have been the key.

[coldwetn0se]

Anytime....Happy gaming!

[Dutchess]

Questioning Beliefs in act 2 triggers when you reach 50% friendship or 50% rivalry. Because the quest depends on that level of the relationship, you don't need an even higher score to get a certain option in that conversation. When you get QB, you're good. Simple as that. Nothing changes anything about it, except whether you're friend or rival.

So indeed flirting with Isabela was the problem, but you have figured that out already. Good luck with the rest of the romance!