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Tali's face will not be modeled in the EC, confirmed.


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spiros9110 wrote...

Were you really expecting something of that quality to hit the EC?


A half-assed photoshoped picture of a human with body paint a weird fingers that don't resemble a quarian hand? Yeah... same quality as the ending. It should must hit the EC.

Dat sunglare :wizard:

Modifié par mauro2222, 23 juin 2012 - 06:46 .


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Yeah... it would have been a reason to like BioWare a little bit more again. But there you go.

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So they can make a complete unique model for Allers, a character that is mostly pointless. But making a real model for one of the most central characters in the game, that they can't do. Instead they give us one of the worst photoshopped pictures ever, to represent the look of Tali and the Quarian race.

I will never understand this decision by the developers, they keep saying they are passionate about their games an all, then how on earth can they do something so lackluster?

Because of how ME3 is, the series has become a much more linear experience if you don't want to be left with extreamly lackluster content, I doubt I will ever romance Tali, and just forget the scene showing her face ever existed. They should rather not shown her face at all instead of something so poor.

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Jassu1979 wrote...

Personally, I'm glad they didn't show her face. Even that photo was already too much (and would have been too much even if they had put more effort into it).

The Quarians' charm and mystique pretty much depends on us NOT knowing what they look like, and letting each of us fill in the gaps with out imagination.
Revealing their faces is a bit like revealing the ghost in a horror film: no matter how good the cgi or the masks, they can NEVER live up to what our imagination can conjure up.


Pretty much my take.  I would have liked a bit more effort be put into her photo (the hand!), but I never expected quarian faces to be shown in the series.  Every individual would have had a different idea of what they look like, and no artist would be able to satisfy the many interpretations out there.  I'm sure whatever they did would devolve into people whining that quarians are too human, too alien or something else.

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Sigh...

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I'm pissed!!! It's not like the damn game already pissed me the hell off enough, but no, they had to go a whole damn step further!!!

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These posts are amusing. Think about - the fact that in game, the quality of Tali's reveal is photoshop level... why would they go out of their way to include a full 3D model in the EC, when THAT should of been in game, no? It's like asking to re-write the whole Earth sequence.

Modifié par spiros9110, 23 juin 2012 - 08:03 .


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The outrage.

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You weren't promised a new model for Tali. Geez. She'll still be in the EC.

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LazyTechGuy wrote...

There is that picture of the EC with the Geth and a Quarian who appears to be unmasked.


What picture is this? Is there a link?

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im commander shep wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

There is that picture of the EC with the Geth and a Quarian who appears to be unmasked.


What picture is this? Is there a link?


http://na.llnet.biow...ed_cut-05-p.jpg

You can't really say wheter it's on or off, the mask.

But if they said it's not there, I wouldn't think it's actually there. It's something they'd be proud to say, if it were true, instead of denying it.

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Not surprising. They had a lot more pressing matters to show in EC.

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Versus Omnibus wrote...

Not surprising. They had a lot more pressing matters to show in EC.


Like ART. :wizard:

Modifié par Twinzam.V, 23 juin 2012 - 09:26 .


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I personally believe Bioware should have used Liz Sroka for Tali's face.

Modifié par zaalbar76, 23 juin 2012 - 09:29 .


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zaalbar76 wrote...

I personally believe Bioware should have used Liz Sroka for Tali's face.


Logically someone would assume that but art got in the way.

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NS Wizdum wrote...

1upD wrote...

 Honestly, this doesn't bother me that much. Where exactly did you expect to see Tali's face? 

"Ok, war's over, let me just take off my vitally important environment suit and breathe deeply of the germy air!"

A better version of the picture of Tali's face would be nice, but I honestly don't think they can just jam it into the ending. Maybe if the EC modified the romance scene? I thought it was just going to be the final mission that was changed though.

I'm more worried that Liara will show up in a flashback instead of Tali. That pissed me off more than the stock photo, more than anything really. It totally destroyed any relevance of the ending to my version of Commander Shepar'ds decisions. I'm more worried that the Catalyst still won't explain his logic to Shepard in the light of his accomplishments on Rannoch, that Synthesis won't be explained, that Destroy will be left ambiguous, that Joker's reasoning for leaving Shepard won't make sense, etc etc etc. The reveal of Tali's face could have been executed much better, but it's not really a problem with the ending.


If you made peace between the Geth and Quarians, there was talk of the Quarians not needing their suits in 2 years due to Geth assistance. The EC is suposed to show how our choices effected the galaxy. It would not be a major stretch to have a cutscene showing Quarians running around on Rannoch, if you decided to save them.

That would be nice. In the making of pictures released for the Extended Cut, there seems to be a still photo of a post-Synthesis Geth platform speaking to a Quarian with no mask. Her nose barely extends from the hood. We could still see a Quarian's face yet in the EC, I suppose, though that makes me think not. :(

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1upD wrote...

NS Wizdum wrote...

1upD wrote...

 Honestly, this doesn't bother me that much. Where exactly did you expect to see Tali's face? 

"Ok, war's over, let me just take off my vitally important environment suit and breathe deeply of the germy air!"

A better version of the picture of Tali's face would be nice, but I honestly don't think they can just jam it into the ending. Maybe if the EC modified the romance scene? I thought it was just going to be the final mission that was changed though.

I'm more worried that Liara will show up in a flashback instead of Tali. That pissed me off more than the stock photo, more than anything really. It totally destroyed any relevance of the ending to my version of Commander Shepar'ds decisions. I'm more worried that the Catalyst still won't explain his logic to Shepard in the light of his accomplishments on Rannoch, that Synthesis won't be explained, that Destroy will be left ambiguous, that Joker's reasoning for leaving Shepard won't make sense, etc etc etc. The reveal of Tali's face could have been executed much better, but it's not really a problem with the ending.


If you made peace between the Geth and Quarians, there was talk of the Quarians not needing their suits in 2 years due to Geth assistance. The EC is suposed to show how our choices effected the galaxy. It would not be a major stretch to have a cutscene showing Quarians running around on Rannoch, if you decided to save them.

That would be nice. In the making of pictures released for the Extended Cut, there seems to be a still photo of a post-Synthesis Geth platform speaking to a Quarian with no mask. Her nose barely extends from the hood. We could still see a Quarian's face yet in the EC, I suppose, though that makes me think not. :(


I've explained many times this looks to be an epilouge slide.

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BioWare should show Tali's actual face in the flashback. I would be very cool for the people who romanced her. Though guess they aren't going to do that, huh?

Modifié par HagarIshay, 23 juin 2012 - 09:51 .


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Versus Omnibus wrote...

Not surprising. They had a lot more pressing matters to show in EC.

LOL you know using the existing face mesh and just adding a new texture to it takes all of what? 3 maybe 4 hours to a professional to make it look polished. A sloppy job it can get done in less than an hour... like that photoshoped pic of tali....

That isn't a lot of effort. They couldnt spare 400 dollars to add in a new face?

It looks like to me they are just being stubborn for their egos.

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XJ347 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Not surprising. They had a lot more pressing matters to show in EC.

LOL you know using the existing face mesh and just adding a new texture to it takes all of what? 3 maybe 4 hours to a professional to make it look polished. A sloppy job it can get done in less than an hour... like that photoshoped pic of tali....

That isn't a lot of effort. They couldnt spare 400 dollars to add in a new face?

It looks like to me they are just being stubborn for their egos.


I'm sure someone will eventually mod it in, assuming the copy protection doesn't melt your computer for using modified files.

Although...The EA Banhammer just swept through my DeviantArt friends list, obliterating everyone that made a Mass Effect 3 model. So maybe not.

Modifié par NS Wizdum, 23 juin 2012 - 10:00 .


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NeoReaven wrote...

Jassu1979 wrote...

Personally, I'm glad they didn't show her face. Even that photo was already too much (and would have been too much even if they had put more effort into it).

The Quarians' charm and mystique pretty much depends on us NOT knowing what they look like, and letting each of us fill in the gaps with out imagination.
Revealing their faces is a bit like revealing the ghost in a horror film: no matter how good the cgi or the masks, they can NEVER live up to what our imagination can conjure up.


Pretty much my take.  I would have liked a bit more effort be put into her photo (the hand!), but I never expected quarian faces to be shown in the series.  Every individual would have had a different idea of what they look like, and no artist would be able to satisfy the many interpretations out there.  I'm sure whatever they did would devolve into people whining that quarians are too human, too alien or something else.



I fully expected to see a Quarian face by the end of the trilogy.  They obscure their faces in each game, make their need to be bound to their suits integral to their culture, and then (in ME3 and ME2) tease us with cut-away shots again and again as the mask is taken off.  Seemed inevitable to me.

Also, revealing their faces is already a moot point - Bioware already did a face reveal and showed us exactly what the quarians look like.  Some may have preferred that their faces never be shown at all, but that ship has sailed.  So if they're going to do a reveal, why not do it right?

Especially when your first attempt was reviled and you have a rare second chance at it?

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NS Wizdum wrote...

XJ347 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Not surprising. They had a lot more pressing matters to show in EC.

LOL you know using the existing face mesh and just adding a new texture to it takes all of what? 3 maybe 4 hours to a professional to make it look polished. A sloppy job it can get done in less than an hour... like that photoshoped pic of tali....

That isn't a lot of effort. They couldnt spare 400 dollars to add in a new face?

It looks like to me they are just being stubborn for their egos.


I'm sure someone will eventually mod it in, assuming the copy protection doesn't melt your computer for using modified files.


You think so? The most I've seen come out of the mod community atm is an ENB mod. (A good one, but it's just shaders)

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spiros9110 wrote...

These posts are amusing. Think about - the fact that in game, the quality of Tali's reveal is photoshop level... why would they go out of their way to include a full 3D model in the EC, when THAT should of been in game, no? It's like asking to re-write the whole Earth sequence.


Asking for a concept design that they already have finished to be mapped onto a 3d face mesh is like asking them to re-write the whole Earth sequence?

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Did people really think tali's face would be in the EC?