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[txgoldrush]

thesnake777 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...


She may have been weak minded but she was good hearted.....once again compare to Vader, Cadeus, and Revan. She would never join the Sith or be drunk on the dark side like she is on Unknown Planet.

Once again, more traits of a Grey Jedi than a Sith drunk on th edark side.

And once again you ignore the points I bring up about Revan, Malek,and Anakin in previous posts. The continual comparison to Revan makes me bealive that you do not know what went on during the mandilorian wars..that or your saying that they were always the way they are after they fall. Malek was good hearted. Anakin was good hearted. Revan was good hearted.
So I will ask again do you know what transpired during the mandilorian wars?
do you fully grasp the Jedi code? I have pointed to multple falws which would lead to her fall. I have given example and comparison to the same people you keep qouting as the epitome of the dark side.
drunk of of power?
She has been shown to enjoy putting people in there place..why would she not really enjoying getting wild and crazy with the dark side.

So these multiple flaws gets her drunk on the dark side? Thats the problem here. Nevermind her light sided actions to get her captured.

She never does the same as what Anakin did in the main series lore before his fall.

Just because she rejects or go against the code doesn't mean she would submit to the Sith.

[thesnake777]

txgoldrush wrote...


So these multiple flaws gets her drunk on the dark side? Thats the problem here. Nevermind her light sided actions to get her captured.

She never does the same as what Anakin did in the main series lore before his fall.

Just because she rejects or go against the code doesn't mean she would submit to the Sith.

and your picking and choose again.

Fine you want to compare her to Anakin. Both felt they were special, both had a arrogant streak. Both Doubted the council. Both were in Love with somebody. Both rejected the Jedi Codes. Both gave into there anger. Both admitted to feeling hatred. Both enjoyed putting people in there place. Shall I go on?

[txgoldrush]

thesnake777 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...


So these multiple flaws gets her drunk on the dark side? Thats the problem here. Nevermind her light sided actions to get her captured.

She never does the same as what Anakin did in the main series lore before his fall.

Just because she rejects or go against the code doesn't mean she would submit to the Sith.

and your picking and choose again.

Fine you want to compare her to Anakin. Both felt they were special, both had a arrogant streak. Both Doubted the council. Both were in Love with somebody. Both rejected the Jedi Codes. Both gave into there anger. Both admitted to feeling hatred. Both enjoyed putting people in there place. Shall I go on?

Anakin went on a mass murdering rampage, Anakin was vengeful, Anakin executed people...it wa smore than just flaws, it was actions.

[thesnake777]

txgoldrush wrote...


Anakin went on a mass murdering rampage, Anakin was vengeful, Anakin executed people...it wa smore than just flaws, it was actions.

Yes anakin slaughter the sand people, he had no restraint in that matter. Bastilla also showed a lack of restraint. Was she put into a postion where she had just found her mother dead in the middle of a sand people camp and had just been discovered, no. Extenuating Circumstance.  The comparison stands they share a **** ton of traits. Put bastillia in that situation she would have killed them all. 

[darthoptimus003]

i have read though all these pages and you are really not getting the point some of the people are saying and we only treated ME3 this way is because we were trying to get the devs to understand the love we have for this series and wanted them to realise they destroyed it in 10min and that brings me to my points {which are my own opion }
1st at the end shep turned into a little bi***. shep would have yelled argued and shot his/her way to a conclusion that he/she wanted, not just go ok i trust you little glowing brat on the three color code choices you are offering
2nd we have had "happy endings" for the last 2 ME games if you worked at it.
what the hell happened to that fact. yeah i was expecting a happy ending if i did everything and so on but no i got the same 3 BS chocies that didnt do sh**. and a BS breath scean that doesnt prove it was my character
3rd any way you look at it we WERE lied to about how this game would be. and when we called them on it we got "artistic integerity" and called whiners and intideled brats and so on.
we were pissed that all of the time, money,and hard work we put into 3 games went right out the window in 10min
4th the starbrat was a damn joke it was horrible and should have been left out.
5th the plotholes in which you are asking about are major ones that go against EVERYTHING THAT WAS ESTABLISHED in all 3 games hell even the books.
and now we have the EC that is suppose to help inlighten us to help us understand there {cough} genius.im sorry but this whole thing seems like ANOTHER kick to the quad
but i will give it a shot and when it fails because they DID NOT listen to the fans there will be another ****storm

[txgoldrush]

thesnake777 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...


Anakin went on a mass murdering rampage, Anakin was vengeful, Anakin executed people...it wa smore than just flaws, it was actions.

Yes anakin slaughter the sand people, he had no restraint in that matter. Bastilla also showed a lack of restraint. Was she put into a postion where she had just found her mother dead in the middle of a sand people camp and had just been discovered, no. Extenuating Circumstance.  The comparison stands they share a **** ton of traits. Put bastillia in that situation she would have killed them all. 

No, she consistantly admonishes the player for Dark Sided actions...she was not an ends justfy the means type character....flawed, but clearly against the Dark Side of the force.

[thesnake777]

txgoldrush wrote...
No, she consistantly admonishes the player for Dark Sided actions...she was not an ends justfy the means type character....flawed, but clearly against the Dark Side of the force.

She is a hypocritc. She admits that while she was bashing the player for DS choices, she herself has little control over herself and gives into her desires.

Edit: missed a quote bracket.

Modifié par thesnake777, 23 juin 2012 - 10:39 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I would like to know how the reapers, who appeared to be approximately 100,000 ly or more from the galaxy in dark space at the ending cutscene of ME2 got to invade the galaxy 6 months later traveling at 30 ly/day at FTL speeds. Or do they have Space Magic Drive? So this means they travelled at around 1000 ly/day with little or no fuel consumption, never having to discharge, obliterated the Batarian systems, then hit Earth and began ME3, all in a period of 6 months after ME2. Come on, there are so many fraking inconsistencies in the game lore in this series. They were pulling stuff out their bums.

They could have said, "oh hey let's just have some Salarian scientist invent some big assed gun that penetrates reaper hulls with ease and can be fired with no energy drain on the ship drives that makes the thanix cannon look like a child's toy and it's a snap fit on all ships, but you can't cure the genophage if you want it. And how about an anti-indoctrination scalp weave?" Hey, it's only fair right? Reapers violate the lore, why not us?

[txgoldrush]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I would like to know how the reapers, who appeared to be approximately 100,000 ly or more from the galaxy in dark space at the ending cutscene of ME2 got to invade the galaxy 6 months later traveling at 30 ly/day at FTL speeds. Or do they have Space Magic Drive? So this means they travelled at around 1000 ly/day with little or no fuel consumption, never having to discharge, obliterated the Batarian systems, then hit Earth and began ME3, all in a period of 6 months after ME2. Come on, there are so many fraking inconsistencies in the game lore in this series. They were pulling stuff out their bums.

They could have said, "oh hey let's just have some Salarian scientist invent some big assed gun that penetrates reaper hulls with ease and can be fired with no energy drain on the ship drives that makes the thanix cannon look like a child's toy and it's a snap fit on all ships, but you can't cure the genophage if you want it. And how about an anti-indoctrination scalp weave?" Hey, it's only fair right? Reapers violate the lore, why not us?

Yet again, who said that at the end of ME2 is exactly when the Reapers start their invasion?

Seeing plot holes that aren't there.

[txgoldrush]

thesnake777 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
No, she consistantly admonishes the player for Dark Sided actions...she was not an ends justfy the means type character....flawed, but clearly against the Dark Side of the force.

She is a hypocritc. She admits that while she was bashing the player for DS choices, she herself has little control over herself and gives into her desires.

Edit: missed a quote bracket.

however admitting personal flaws...is that light sided?

Still, he turn is contrived as hell....Bioware simply did not do character development in the "glory days" well,

[thesnake777]

txgoldrush wrote...

however admitting personal flaws...is that light sided?

Still, he turn is contrived as hell....Bioware simply did not do character development in the "glory days" well,

...and Anakin admitted to padme his flaws.....is that also light sided? becuase you keep saying they are nothing alike...and yet they seem to be very very similar.....

Modifié par thesnake777, 23 juin 2012 - 11:10 .

[txgoldrush]

[quote]thesnake777 wrote...

[quote]txgoldrush wrote...

however admitting personal flaws...is that light sided?

Still, he turn is contrived as hell....Bioware simply did not do character development in the "glory days" well,[/quote

...and Anakin admitted to padme his flaws.....is that also light sided? becuase you keep saying they are nothing alike...and yet they seem to be very very similar.....
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No, Anakin never admits his flaws to Padme....he whines about everything.

[thesnake777]

txgoldrush wrote...

No, Anakin never admits his flaws to Padme....he whines about everything.

The entire scene were he crys about how he killed the sand people.......He says how he gave into his anger..

Modifié par thesnake777, 23 juin 2012 - 11:12 .

[txgoldrush]

thesnake777 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

No, Anakin never admits his flaws to Padme....he whines about everything.

The entire scene were he crys about how he killed the sand people.......He says how he gave into his anger..

No not really....he whines about how powerless he is.

[thesnake777]

txgoldrush wrote...
No not really....he whines about how powerless he is.

He yells that he slaughtered them like animals, and that he hates them, collapses crying padme comes over to him.
Not about being powerless. He admits that he killed the sand people out of hatred. 

[Apocaleepse360]

Because there are more plot holes in Mass Effect 3's ending than just about every other Bioware game combined (except for perhaps DA2, but even DA2 on it's own didn't have as many).

Modifié par Apocaleepse360, 23 juin 2012 - 11:46 .

[darthoptimus003]

txgoldrush wrote...

thesnake777 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

No, Anakin never admits his flaws to Padme....he whines about everything.

The entire scene were he crys about how he killed the sand people.......He says how he gave into his anger..

No not really....he whines about how powerless he is.

watch 2 aain cause now your sounding like you have no clue what your talking about
hell i even remember him pretty much saying that he gave in to his anger when he said /wait 4 it\\ i HATE them to her

Modifié par darthoptimus003, 23 juin 2012 - 11:36 .

[Doctoglethorpe]

alec1898 wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

You keep using the phrase "plot hole", but I don't think you know what it means.

Yeah I stopped reading when OP said bastila turning to the dark side is a plot hole.

^

[The Spamming Troll]

OP, its becasue all those games you listed arent very good games.

ME1; biowares only good game!

[txgoldrush]

thesnake777 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
No not really....he whines about how powerless he is.

He yells that he slaughtered them like animals, and that he hates them, collapses crying padme comes over to him.
Not about being powerless. He admits that he killed the sand people out of hatred. 

But thats not an admission that he is flawed...he never learns from it. And it was not a humble admission, then he goes and whines about how powerless he is, showing more character flaws.

Anakin simply put is more extreme than Bastila an dclearly becomes an ends justify the means character.

Modifié par txgoldrush, 24 juin 2012 - 12:38 .

[Ninja Stan]

Not ME3 story or campaign related.

End of line.