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[Whapa]

Even the ending of RAGE didn't upset me as much as ME3's did, but heck there are a ton of games that I still have that I still haven't finished up with yet, my Steam games will easily take up time that I could have spent on ME3. Yeah I have a few that are made by EA, but honestly this whole issue is the #1 reason that I will never pre-order or buy a game in the 1st week ever again.

[Knightstar2001]

I'm not going to boycott a game company just because their ending wasn't how I wanted the game to end. I enjoyed the game and the ending wasn't too far out of left field for me(maybe I'm just genre savvy that way). I'll still preorder stuff from them if I like what I have learned about the product.

As for stuff that people can play. Bio shock Infinite, Ni No Kuni: wrath of the white witch(PS3), Borderlands 2, Resident evil 6. Lara Croft(is looking nice) and then there is DLC like Dawnguard for Skyrim, and the one for Dark Souls.

[CaolIla]

3 of the most disappointing games ever in a row... yes I'm not going to buy any more games from Bioware. But that's not a boycott, it's just that I realized I don't want games, that are 90% wasted potential so I kind of outgrew Bioware.
I liked the Bioware that spent years to finish a game with passion and not the Bioware that squeezes out the bare minimum of programming and ideas that can be called a game.

It's obvious they won't change their way of making a game (the game is done when the deadline says it is) and I don't like mediocre games, so I think it's the logical conclusion to avoid bioware games in the future.

btw: I look forward to play more old japanese RPGs on Super Nintendo, PC, PS 1 - 3 and Gamecube...

[MisterNugNug]

I don't know how to explain the drop in quality since ME2.  As a developer Bioware has a knack for creating engaging characters and settings.  And that for me seems to be what they are best at; but in terms of creating a cogent overarching narrative story; they have a problem with that.

I don't know if I would boycott Bioware; but I certainly won't be pre-ordering games they produce.  I guess more than anything I'm disappointed; you'd figure with the success of ME2, the team would have carte blanche to craft the epic dénouement they wanted.  Priority Earth just came off incredibly weak, the final gameplay segment involves babysitting a mobile missile launcher.  It felt like such a wasted opportunity.

Modifié par MisterNugNug, 24 juin 2012 - 07:35 .

[taggen86]

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

So, what you're saying is that Bioware is the only good game developer? Pfft AHAHAHAHaHA! I'm sorry for that outburst. And since when are military FPSs the only games being made?

Yepp. my opinion is that bioware is one of the few developers left that makes interesting games today and that we schould support them so they can take brave new steps in the future. First, There is a tendency in the industry (at least among AAA developers) to make military shooters/bombastic games or play it extremely safe with sequels that doesnt do anything new. I believe that if we look at biowares close history (~6 years), they have not yet been affected by this sickness. Secondly, the quality of their games are still very good. No game I have played during the past months/years can compete with the atmosphere in or the emotional impact of the me games (me3 included). I own both the ps3 and xbox and have played most of the games that people in this thread have named. 

Modifié par taggen86, 24 juin 2012 - 08:00 .

[o Ventus]

taggen86 wrote...

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

So, what you're saying is that Bioware is the only good game developer? Pfft AHAHAHAHaHA! I'm sorry for that outburst. And since when are military FPSs the only games being made?

Yepp. my opinion is that bioware is one of the few developers left that makes interesting games today and that we schould support them so they can take brave new steps in the future. First, There is a tendency in the industry to make military shooters/bombastic games or play it extremely safe with sequels that doesnt do anything new. I believe that if we look at biowares close history, they have not yet been affected by this sickness. Secondly, the quality of their games are still very good. No game I have played during the past months/years can compete with the atmosphere in or the emotional impact of the me games. I own both the ps3 and xbox and have played most of the games that people in this thread have named. 

So you're a kiss-ass then?

And the shooter trend is hardly nything new. The 80's were bloated with platformers and side scrollers, and the mid-late 90's saw an influx of survival-horror and RTS titles. You act like it's some anomaly. 

And finally no, not nearly ever game is a shooter. Not even remotely. Triple A titles see lots of them, but not every game is a triple A.

[kyban]

I think the OP's first problem is only buying AAA games. If all you do is follow advertisement, then you'll never really see very interesting games.
There are plenty of cool games coming out, three that really stand out for me are Beyond: Two Worlds, The Last of Us, and Watch Dogs.
Plus don't forget indie games, there are way too many for me to name but just look at Double Fine. They have a small budget as far as games go, but they're making a pretty neat classic Adventure game.

When it comes to boycotting, I don't think i will actually do it. But i have lost faith in Bioware, and the chances of me buying another one of their games is very slim.

[taggen86]

And yeah, even if people here say that they do not agree with me, the fact that so many of the boycotters replied to this thread more than 3 months after me3 come out shows that even this (least likely) group care and love bioware games. The real boycotters would have got tired and left the forum long ago. I would bet that most of you will buy DA3 in the end, if not only to be a part of thr conversation:)

Modifié par taggen86, 24 juin 2012 - 08:29 .

[knightnblu]

taggen86 wrote...

Just a question to all u people that say that u are not going to buy bioware-games in the future. What games are u going to play then? Call of duty 7? Battlefield 4? Assasins creed 6? Even though you may say that everything is EA's fault, the whole industry is actually going downhill rapidly. And as it stands bioware is almost the only developer left that makes interesting AAA titles that are not military shooters or sequels that are similar to the games before. And even though the storywriting and the dialogue in me3 are not perfect it is still far superior to everything in the industry. 

I disagree not because I disagree with your premise per se, but because I disagree with your reasoning. BioWare fouled up. They told us one thing and delivered something else. Then they had the unmitigated audacity to insult us for their screw up. If the EC DLC doesn't fix this then they get exactly what they deserve.
 
As for "boycotting" I don't believe in such things. But what I do believe in, is holding companies accountable for their actions or lack thereof. BioWare's conduct in regard to the endings is reprehensible in my opinion. If anything, BioWare has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are no longer the company that we once knew. They have changed. Do you still want to purchase games from a company that thinks that they can play you or that you are too stupid to understand their art? I don't.
 
I think that BioWare has gotten too big for their britches and have grown arrogant in their approach to gaming as proven by their response to our rejection of the ending to ME3 and by the comments delivered by BioWare to a university in which they tell the students that they don't care what I have to say because I don't work in the industry. That says a lot about who BioWare is today. I feel like they betrayed me. I'm not pissed off, not anymore. Now I'm just disgusted. That disgust taints Mass Effect and it taints all future projects that BioWare will launch in the future. In short, they squandered my trust.
 
Can I say that I will never buy another BioWare product ever again? No, but I will be very cautious and do my homework and wait until after release and look at Youtube videos before I even think about buying another game from BioWare if the EC DLC is a failure. That means no more pre-orders, no more accessories, no more books, etcetera. This is where I am at.

[ghost9191]

taggen86 wrote...

And yeah, even if people here say that they do not agree with me, the fact that so many of the boycotters replied to this thread more than 3 months after me3 come out shows that even this (least likely) group care and love bioware games. The real boycotters would have got tired and left the forum long ago. I would bet that most of you will buy DA3 in the end, if not only to be a part of thr conversation:)

haters gonna hate

no game is perfect, mass effect 3 has it's flaws but i will not boycott bioware over a ending, they are at least trying to fix it with ec, not all companies would do that. But also they learn from their mistakes, which you can see with DA3. i will stick with bioware, not gonna turn on them just because of one or two games. I believe they will learn from their mistakes and grow, that is how you advance

[taggen86]

kyban wrote...

I think the OP's first problem is only buying AAA games. If all you do is follow advertisement, then you'll never really see very interesting games.
There are plenty of cool games coming out, three that really stand out for me are Beyond: Two Worlds, The Last of Us, and Watch Dogs.
Plus don't forget indie games, there are way too many for me to name but just look at Double Fine. They have a small budget as far as games go, but they're making a pretty neat classic Adventure game.

When it comes to boycotting, I don't think i will actually do it. But i have lost faith in Bioware, and the chances of me buying another one of their games is very slim.

I agree that I have ignored indie games, however looking at the big games most people tend to agree that the last e3 was the worse yet and that the industry is in bad shape, especially when it comes to new ideas and new series.

[ghost9191]

knightnblu wrote...

taggen86 wrote...

Just a question to all u people that say that u are not going to buy bioware-games in the future. What games are u going to play then? Call of duty 7? Battlefield 4? Assasins creed 6? Even though you may say that everything is EA's fault, the whole industry is actually going downhill rapidly. And as it stands bioware is almost the only developer left that makes interesting AAA titles that are not military shooters or sequels that are similar to the games before. And even though the storywriting and the dialogue in me3 are not perfect it is still far superior to everything in the industry. 

I disagree not because I disagree with your premise per se, but because I disagree with your reasoning. BioWare fouled up. They told us one thing and delivered something else. Then they had the unmitigated audacity to insult us for their screw up. If the EC DLC doesn't fix this then they get exactly what they deserve.
 
As for "boycotting" I don't believe in such things. But what I do believe in, is holding companies accountable for their actions or lack thereof. BioWare's conduct in regard to the endings is reprehensible in my opinion. If anything, BioWare has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are no longer the company that we once knew. They have changed. Do you still want to purchase games from a company that thinks that they can play you or that you are too stupid to understand their art? I don't.
 
I think that BioWare has gotten too big for their britches and have grown arrogant in their approach to gaming as proven by their response to our rejection of the ending to ME3 and by the comments delivered by BioWare to a university in which they tell the students that they don't care what I have to say because I don't work in the industry. That says a lot about who BioWare is today. I feel like they betrayed me. I'm not pissed off, not anymore. Now I'm just disgusted. That disgust taints Mass Effect and it taints all future projects that BioWare will launch in the future. In short, they squandered my trust.
 
Can I say that I will never buy another BioWare product ever again? No, but I will be very cautious and do my homework and wait until after release and look at Youtube videos before I even think about buying another game from BioWare if the EC DLC is a failure. That means no more pre-orders, no more accessories, no more books, etcetera. This is where I am at.

yeah i mean i dislike how they handled this whole ordeal but as i said i think that they can only learn from their mistake. and i hope that they will show it in their future games, i am still a fan on bioware , may be a bit more cautious now but to abandon a company on their first screw up, nah. second maybe but will see when the time comes

Modifié par ghost9191, 24 juin 2012 - 08:47 .

[Cyne]

They're still one of my favorite developers so I'm not boycotting them yet. But if the extended cut turns out to be a flop, it'll be unfortunate.

[Dominator24]

voteDC wrote...

I'm not going to boycott Bioware games in the future but they have lost the "buy without question" mentality I used to have about their games.

The advice of Robhuzz about is what I was going to do anyway but they are wise words indeed.

This. No more preorders from me and I'll wait for reviews from reviewers I trust and that talked the truth about the game AND the ending.

And to the OP. How about "Watch Dogs" or "The Last of US" new "Tomb Raider" "Prey" "RE 6" or "Disshonord" (did you even watch the E3?? ) next Witcher or the cyberpunk game CDProject are making.

Bioware isn't the holy grail of game developers, never was, and never will be from the looks of it.

 

Modifié par Dominator24, 24 juin 2012 - 09:28 .

[wicked_being]

I'm not going to boycott. Boycott would mean blacklisting anything and everything made by Bioware. I'll still be curious and probably would want to try future games made by them but I'm no longer going to blindly buy their products. If anything, this whole debacle has taught me how to be a better and smarter consumer.

Modifié par wicked_being, 24 juin 2012 - 09:42 .

[taggen86]

Dominator24 wrote...

And to the OP. How about "Watch Dogs" or "The Last of US" new "Tomb Raider" "Prey" "RE 6" or "Disshonord" (did you even watch the E3?? ) next Witcher or the cyberpunk game CDProject are making.

Bioware isn't the holy grail of game developers, never was, and never will be from the looks of it.



Yepp followed e3 closely and I have got a few games I am looking forward to (allthough I try to not have too high expectations as the post-me3 games I have played have let me down). Watch dogs are looking good if it is released to the next gen consoles. I am also looking forward to tomb raider/the last of us (allthough I am afraid that they might be too similar to uncharted). Prey also looks good and I hope that it has not been canceled. RE6 was a massive letdown for me as RE4 is perhaps the best game I have ever played toghether with some zelda games. RE6 is a prime example of everything that is wrong with the industry. Nintendo did not impress me. CD project is one of the few interesting developers left out there and I will pick up their games.

That was it for me more or less, I have some hope left for the next gen consoles though and the next game from bw edm 

 


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Modifié par taggen86, 24 juin 2012 - 10:04 .

[ZackG312]

[quote]taggen86 wrote...



And to the OP. How about "Watch Dogs" or "The Last of US" new "Tomb Raider" "Prey" "RE 6" or "Disshonord" (did you even watch the E3?? ) next Witcher or the cyberpunk game CDProject are making.

Bioware isn't the holy grail of game developers, never was, and never will be from the looks of it.



Yepp followed e3 closely and I have got a few games I am looking forward to (allthough I try to not have too high expectations as the post-me3 games I have played have let me down). Watch dogs are looking good if it is released to the next gen consoles. I am also looking forward to tomb raider/the last of us (allthough I am afraid that they might be too similar to uncharted). Prey also looks good and I hope that it has not been canceled. RE6 was a massive letdown for me as RE4 is perhaps the best game I have ever played toghether with some zelda games. RE6 is a prime example of everything that is wrong with the industry. Nintendo did not impress me. CD project is one of the few interesting developers left out there and I will pick up their games.

That was it for me more or less, I have some hope left for the next gen consoles though and the next game from bw edm 

 


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May I ask where did you here that the next CDPR game was going to be cyber punk, I read somewhere that it was going to be sci-fi. But but are cool themes.

Modifié par ZackG312, 24 juin 2012 - 10:11 .

[oblivionenss]

To the OP, I have still several characters that I want to play in BG, IWD, NWN 1 & 2, Titan quest, and a whole bunch unplayed games like PS:T, TES Morrowind, Arcanum, The bioshock games, Assasins creed games, and a whole bunch of the classic games that I never have got around to play, so yeah I got several thousand of gaming hours there, and then I havent even mentioned the newer games.

So yeah, there are alot of games I can play instead of Biowares newer games that have more and more moved away in a direction I dont wanna follow.

[Landline]

I'm not just boycotting Bioware, I'm boycotting EA in general.

Bethesda and Valve both still make good games, or at least they've never outright spat in my face and refused to acknowledge that they did anything wrong. There are also plenty of old games that I haven't played yet.

[tonnactus]

Funny because that the next Call of Duty will offer different endings and is set in the future...(and they also hired a decent writer)
"
Its story will come from co-writer of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight David Goyer."

http://www.vg247.com...to-black-ops-2/

Modifié par tonnactus, 24 juin 2012 - 12:02 .

[SmellyMetal]

DAMN - this guy doesn't know a good game outside Bioware... Please, someone - give him a "Witcher II" copy...thank you!

[Zamnil Blackaxe]

taggen86 wrote...

Just a question to all u people that say that u are not going to buy bioware-games in the future. What games are u going to play then? Call of duty 7? Battlefield 4? Assasins creed 6? Even though you may say that everything is EA's fault, the whole industry is actually going downhill rapidly. And as it stands bioware is one of the few developers left that makes interesting AAA titles that are not military shooters or sequels that are similar to the games before. Even though the storywriting and the dialogue in me3 are not perfect it is still far superior to almost everything in the industry. 

I was going to write out a well thought out response but then I reread your post and saw that you already got my answer to the ****ing question halfway through your paragraph. I'm done with bioware and video gaming in general because it's all ****e, nothing ever plays out as good as it looks and the few times something does go well it gets cocked up by either the community or the developers themselves.

Thankfully Warhammer 40,000 6th edition comes out next week so I can keep my self amused and occupied playing miniatures battle games like I have been doing for the last 13 years.

[tonnactus]

SmellyMetal wrote...

DAMN - this guy doesn't know a good game outside Bioware... Please, someone - give him a "Witcher II" copy...thank you!

Or Deus Ex Human Revolution. Or Fallout New Vegas. 

[Apfelweinbrauer]

taggen86 wrote...

Just a question to all u people that say that u are not going to buy bioware-games in the future. What games are u going to play then?

After just finishing Max Payne 3 on the highest difficulty, I am actually trying beat Ninja Gaiden (NES) without losing a single life, which seems to be tremendously difficult, at least for me, being not very good when it comes to platformers...
What am I going to play in the future? Well, this year I will get the X-COM remake, Dawnguard, Borderlands 2 and maybe several games from gog.com.

Even though the storywriting and the dialogue in me3 are not perfect it is still far superior to almost everything in the industry.

Not perfect? More sugercoating would actually give me diabetes just by reading it...
Actually I hate this game with a passion and it was easily the worst disappointment I ever had to experience in 24 years of video gaming.

Modifié par Apfelweinbrauer, 24 juin 2012 - 12:12 .