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I don't know why you guys are complaining so much. I mean honestly, its a game, you cannot compare games with movies. 1 has real people in them and the other doesn't. So it will always be a little off. I mean not everyone is comfortable with sex scenes in movies either (I am not) so I was also not comfortable with the sex scenes in Dragon Age. Yet I think they were well made for the fact that it was a video game.

I think if Bioware took the Original Poster's advice and showed less, this forum would have the same amount of people complaining. So I say screw it and if they are able to put in something, then I hope they go ahead and add it.

I thought the ending was very well made and the game was too short lol. That is why I am eager for more.

I don't know why the original poster was so critical (sometimes unjustly so) but then this is the internet and we don't know enough about one another to decide not to take each other seriously.

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YunDog wrote...

suggestions - next time get a womans advice, and the advice of someone who has actually had sex more than once.


This is possibly the funniest thing I have read on these forums. Brilliant!

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Chezdon wrote...

YunDog wrote...

suggestions - next time get a womans advice, and the advice of someone who has actually had sex more than once.


This is possibly the funniest thing I have read on these forums. Brilliant!

I actually thought the part where a dev came by and told him a woman did the scene was funnier but to each his own I suppose.

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Well, if a female PC, who is in love with Alistair found out that there was actually enjoyment, hot, steamy sex, and funtimes in that forced ritual, she'd be quite upset.



The female PC who loves Alistair and is forced to comply with Morrigan's request to be able to live happily ever after, is probably quite happy about the awkward, non-fun sex.



Just saying..

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YunDog wrote...


Lesson learned - guys you can suggest more by showing less.

lighting - music - closeups - shadows

suggestions - next time get a womans advice, and the advice of someone who has actually had sex more than once.

watch a romantic movie and copy how they do it

some skin here, a siloette there, some breathe sounds

peoples imagination will fill the shadows and do a better job than you could.


guys take some advice next time and dont wreck a fantastic ending with a tacky and completely unromantic scene - better to have cut that scene out entirely if your not going to do it properly


QFT!!!

Bioware failed at this so horribly... If i remeber correctly Mass Effect was allot better at this... Why the downturn guys?!

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Dzikv wrote...

YunDog wrote...


Lesson learned - guys you can suggest more by showing less.

lighting - music - closeups - shadows

suggestions - next time get a womans advice, and the advice of someone who has actually had sex more than once.

watch a romantic movie and copy how they do it

some skin here, a siloette there, some breathe sounds

peoples imagination will fill the shadows and do a better job than you could.


guys take some advice next time and dont wreck a fantastic ending with a tacky and completely unromantic scene - better to have cut that scene out entirely if your not going to do it properly


QFT!!!

Bioware failed at this so horribly... If i remeber correctly Mass Effect was allot better at this... Why the downturn guys?!


I wish people could just calm down a little bit. While I think that the sex scens could have been done better, I cannot for the life of me agree that they were really that bad. If I for example look at the first scene with Morrigan/Leliana (yeah, it's was little disappointing they get exactly the same scene) I can say that everything really works, with the sole excpetion of the one when you see the players face with the woman on top of him, and this is to a large extent becuase the player characters face looks really stupid. Cut that out and the rest is fine imo and certainly very tastefully done, in the sense that it's good balance between explicit and not too explicit. The close ups of the women's faces work surprisingly well and so on.

Whoever thought this was crude and worthy of a fifteen-year-old is pretty unfair in my opinion. The technology didn't cope with the artisitc ambitions I think. True, I think it was a bit funny about the underwear, but come on. If that is all it takes to break your immerssion, then you need a bit more imagination I think.

I want to applaud Bioware for their ambition, even if I think it might have been better done technically. There is no need to continue doing things more explicit than that - this was just fine. The artistic ambition was spot on for me, I just wish you had taken time to QA the final version and edit out the stuff that the engine couldn't reproduse well enough. Next time you'll get the techincal stuff right too and it will be even better.:)

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SeanMurphy2 wrote...

Or a post coital conversation. You could awkwardly make excuses to get away from Morrigan. (She may actually respond better to this option) Whilst Leliana may respond better if you want to stay and hold her. Zevran may respond better to flattery about his performance and how hot he looks right now.


What I thought was interesting is that you have the option of insulting Zevran's performance even though he is supposedly a dynamo in bed and you have the option of praising Alistair's performance even though it was his first time, and not vice versa.

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I liked KotoR's hip swaying female models. D:

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Tamyn wrote...

SeanMurphy2 wrote...

Or a post coital conversation. You could awkwardly make excuses to get away from Morrigan. (She may actually respond better to this option) Whilst Leliana may respond better if you want to stay and hold her. Zevran may respond better to flattery about his performance and how hot he looks right now.


What I thought was interesting is that you have the option of insulting Zevran's performance even though he is supposedly a dynamo in bed and you have the option of praising Alistair's performance even though it was his first time, and not vice versa.


Well, maybe it was the first time for the PC too, so you can´t compare. After all, I cant remember any romances before those with your party, except for a certain threesome (without cutscenes, who would have thought....) as a Dwarfen noble. But as mage and elf you are probably still a virgin.

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Jowan got himself some booty, why not my mage? Or is my theories about that Jowans only good skill is getting chicks true, the horror!



Wynne also seemed to get plenty in the tower during her younger days (at least).

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Tirigon wrote...
But as mage and elf you are probably still a virgin.


As a female mage there's an option to go somewhere private to talk to Cullen.  I've never pursued the option, so I don't know what it leads to.

As far as the sex scenes, I don't hate them as much as some, although that's largely because I tend to spend the time watching them congratulating myself on how well parts of my character's face turned out, but in general showing less/suggesting more is likely to be more provocative. I don't mean cut to black, but use of camera angles and perhaps a bit of interaction inside the tent while the characters are still clothed.

Modifié par Imryll, 15 décembre 2009 - 02:40 .


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Imryll wrote...

Tirigon wrote...
But as mage and elf you are probably still a virgin.


As a female mage there's an option to go somewhere private to talk to Cullen.  I've never pursued the option, so I don't know what it leads to.


It leads to him freaking out and running away.  :)

However, David Gaider has said in the past that mages are pretty relaxed about these sorts of things, so you may well have had some semi-private time with other apprentices, if you think your character wanted to.

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LdyShayna wrote...

However, David Gaider has said in the past that mages are pretty relaxed about these sorts of things, so you may well have had some semi-private time with other apprentices, if you think your character wanted to.



There is an opportunity to ask Jowan, "How come we never ... ?"   I don't know what that leads to either, since it seems awkward to ask in front of Lily and not necessarily a question to which my character would want to hear the answer, even if she might be privately curious.

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Jowan says you're like a sister to him, asks what you think and the awkwardness levels are high.

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YunDog wrote...

So on the weekend I sat down to play through the climatic ending. I was really getting immersed into the night before the battle, was liking the whole pact with Morrigan dialogue. and then.....

That horrible underware scene with the manquin looking PC and Morrigan.. YUCK OMG talk about a cold shower or being hit with a wet cabbage... totally killed the immersion.. it was like I was watching a suspenseful thriller movie one minute and then someone had taped over it with a cheap D grade porno. I dont enjoy watching puppets in undies do it - this was more akin to some joke sex scene in Thunderbirds.

Lesson learned - guys you can suggest more by showing less.

lighting - music - closeups - shadows

suggestions - next time get a womans advice, and the advice of someone who has actually had sex more than once.

watch a romantic movie and copy how they do it

some skin here, a siloette there, some breathe sounds

peoples imagination will fill the shadows and do a better job than you could.

I would not normally bother to comment about such things - but given this was an intergral part of the climatic ending of the game - and it did nothing but ruin it

guys take some advice next time and dont wreck a fantastic ending with a tacky and completely unromantic scene - better to have cut that scene out entirely if your not going to do it properly


Funniest thing I've heard in DA forums! Hahaha good idea!

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Xandurpein wrote...
Whoever thought this was crude and worthy of a fifteen-year-old is pretty unfair in my opinion. The technology didn't cope with the artisitc ambitions I think. True, I think it was a bit funny about the underwear, but come on. If that is all it takes to break your immerssion, then you need a bit more imagination I think.

I want to applaud Bioware for their ambition, even if I think it might have been better done technically. There is no need to continue doing things more explicit than that - this was just fine. The artistic ambition was spot on for me, I just wish you had taken time to QA the final version and edit out the stuff that the engine couldn't reproduse well enough. Next time you'll get the techincal stuff right too and it will be even better.:)

Maybe I'm wrong but I figured that the size of the game is what limited the techical side of the game.  Either way I thought the game was great and I don't think the romance scenes were all that bad anyways, call me a square but I really enjoyed everything about this game.

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Imryll wrote...

LdyShayna wrote...

However, David Gaider has said in the past that mages are pretty relaxed about these sorts of things, so you may well have had some semi-private time with other apprentices, if you think your character wanted to.



There is an opportunity to ask Jowan, "How come we never ... ?"   I don't know what that leads to either, since it seems awkward to ask in front of Lily and not necessarily a question to which my character would want to hear the answer, even if she might be privately curious.


Thats exactly why I said you are probably still a virgin.
He is the only one you know close enough, and apparently you havent done it with him. Sure, you can IMAGINE that you have had an affair with every person in the tower, but there is nothing that gives you reason to do so - except of your own lewd fantasies, of course:P

But somehow, when Alistair says he is still a virgin, your PC seems to be shocked how such a thing can be possible. I missed the option to say "well, we are on the same level of experience, let´s learn together!"
(only if you play a female character, of course)

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Tirigon wrote...
But somehow, when Alistair says he is still a virgin, your PC seems to be shocked how such a thing can be possible. I missed the option to say "well, we are on the same level of experience, let´s learn together!"
(only if you play a female character, of course)


Let's get ourselves some women if male.