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[Asebstos]

I'm not sure why people are so against Blade Armor on the Batarian Soldier. You generally don't need to spam BB so much that you need a crazy CD. In fact, I've found that speccing it straight for DR (30% total) I can still have my BB (not even taking the recharge evolution) cycle fast enough that I can use it to reload cancel on my Krysae without worry. Yeah, my inferno nades aren't top notch, but whatever, they still help things die faster.

[RinShepard]

Star fury wrote...

Krogan vanguard is immortal, the best tank in the game with decent DPS.
Vorcha sentinel is great, flamer + cluster grenades, regeneration makes him fun to play. He laughs at reapers.
Batarian soldier with grenades and b. blades + Claymore or Reegar is CQC beast.
Yeah, they're much harder to master than 2 button classes like infiltrator's 1. energy drain/cryo blast. 2. shoot. or charge + nova spam.

Novaguards are still better at tanking than Kroguards. Kroguards have great DPS with Reegar and are a lot easier to play than Infiltrators on Gold (both pretty easy compared to Batarian Soldier and Vorcha Sentinel.)

[Schneidend]

Who wants to regenerate so fast as to be nigh unkillable, amirite? So lame. Vorcha are a terrible class.

[Hexi-decimal]

szkasypcze wrote...

This was supposed to be just an another operation. Like many before and many to come. I picked Vorcha soldier and started the game. And then I got struck......

....I can't play him. No, not that I don't know how to. Somewhere in the back of my mind this thought was always there, but I never gave it any interest. I have never played Vorcha nor Krogan nor Batarian. Well, maybe 1 or 2, but that's just it. And I never knew why. Now I know. They just totally suck. In comparison to other species they have very few to offer. I'm not gonna go into secifics, cause I just want to share my view.

So thank you Bioware that you have made me realize this. Apart from this operation (and maybe some more if it's required) I will never play those species.

"they suck"  isn't an opinion.  It's simply a false statment.

"I don't like them" is an opinion.

Feel free to share you view, just realize that you may, and in this case are wrong.  Vorcha are especially effective little ****s that are impossible to kill if played correctly.

[MrChris_CJ]

The only thing it opened my eyes to is how annoying some of these races can be to play

not in the sense of general powers or abilities, but minor things

general lack of mobility being one, no you can't do a roll lol

and then I am playing Krogan and I notice that I get stumbled lol, by admittedly some of the more larger impacts but Im a Krogan, I am supposed to be a freaking tank, I can play a human soldier and take a rocket hit or geth prime hit and not get stumbled, but a Krogan can?

Let alone the fact that for all the extra shields a phantom or ravager or hell a Nemesis will insta deplete it

In the end I just went with Batarian soldier, with my Sabre, very much the same setup as my Human soldier, went into a Silver game and just killed killed killed

going to play a bit of Vorcha next, but annoyed currently with how the Batarians and Krogan, are...well inflexible from the mobility standpoint and being staggered by impacts (really did make me think wtf when I got staggered as a Krogan ha)

[OneTrueShot]

As a very high ranked player, (N74200+), my favourite class is the Krogran Sentinel. No reliance on powers to kill. Just you, tech armor and your player skill to use weapons to the best of your ability.

Krogan Sentinel is an excellent class. I'm rather known amongst my friends for just that.

Modifié par OneTrueShot, 23 juin 2012 - 09:49 .

[Big Bad]

It takes an amazing amount of clueless arrogance to play poorly with a certain character or class and immediately come to the conclusion that it was the character's fault.

[5DVz]

I agree 100% with OP.

Vorcha, Krogans and Batarians suck in comparison to the favored classes. Nerfing the favored classes only ruins the enjoyment of the game since the other classes are NOT fun at all.

[BooPi]

Vorchas and the Krogan Sentinel are good, but you need to be careful not to overestimate their tank-ishness. Always be hugging cover to regen your shields or health (and, with the Krogan, to avoid getting stunlocked). Remember that if you build them to use grenades, you may not have to worry about cooldown--in that case, take a both a Krysae and a Reegar to cover your bases.

A trick with Vorchas: if you start firing your Reegar first and then initiate Flamer, both will continue to fire simultaneously. You can absolutely wreck bosses that way. Use dodge to cancel the animation if you start to take return fire.

Krogan Vanguard is a bit easier, since he's so much meatier and can't be staggered. Pairs up well with a Reegar, but don't let that make you start thinking you always need to charge groups of enemies to use your gun. At some point on Gold, charging into a group of enemies by yourself will just get you killed and nobody will be nearby to revive you; so get used to taking cover and waiting for mobs to get close. If it's too much waiting for you, then try a Claymore or Graal with a smart choke--good up close, and still decent at range so you're not just waiting.

With Krogans, don't get all melee-happy. You have to play conservatively on Gold, so hang back and just be opportunistic when weaker enemies get close.

Batarian soldier is amazing, use the exploding ballistic blades evolution. But you do need to, again, be conservative. Wait until mobs get close, don't charge them on Gold.

[Big Bad]

5DVz wrote...

I agree 100% with OP.

Vorcha, Krogans and Batarians suck in comparison to the favored classes. Nerfing the favored classes only ruins the enjoyment of the game since the other classes are NOT fun at all.

Uhhh...did it ever cross your mind that your standard of fun is not necessarily the "true" standard of fun and that perhaps other people might enjoy things that you don't?  I have a blast every time I play with my vorcha or Batarian characters.

[Asebstos]

Nerfing the favored classes that I prefer only ruins my the enjoyment of the game since the other classes are NOT fun for me at all.

There you go.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

5DVz wrote...

I agree 100% with OP.

Vorcha, Krogans and Batarians suck in comparison to the favored classes. Nerfing the favored classes only ruins the enjoyment of the game since the other classes are NOT fun at all.[OPINION]

OR : you could get better with those classes you don't like. They can perform pretty well in the hands of any decent player. [Fact]

And you know what? They're even fun to play. [Opinion]

[5DVz]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

5DVz wrote...

I agree 100% with OP.

Vorcha, Krogans and Batarians suck in comparison to the favored classes. Nerfing the favored classes only ruins the enjoyment of the game since the other classes are NOT fun at all.[OPINION]

OR : you could get better with those classes you don't like. They can perform pretty well in the hands of any decent player. [Fact]

And you know what? They're even fun to play. [Opinion]

Performance =/= Enjoyment /fact

Don't tell me which class I need to enjoy more.  

[Gilthanis]

I have to disagree. The Batarian Soldier is great for taking out Phantoms in like two hits. Hit them with Ballistic Blades to stagger them then immediately do a Heavy Melee. Their heads go boom.

[MingoStarr]

Anybody else notice the OP hasn't been back to comment on any of this?

Modifié par MingoStarr, 23 juin 2012 - 10:11 .

[JoxerNL]

To the OP : learn to Play.

Seriously, Vorcha Soldier wielding an Assault Rifle and specced properly just does not die.

[landylan]

5DVz wrote...

I agree 100% with OP.

Vorcha, Krogans and Batarians suck in comparison to the favored classes. Nerfing the favored classes only ruins the enjoyment of the game since the other classes are NOT fun at all.

im guessing we're talking about infiltrators. the only reason they are "favored" is because they get the highest scores for their users and perform the best. it doesnt mean theyre fun either. not everyone is in love with them

[Sempati]

Think it is more a matter of playing style and practice. First time I use a new class I need a few rounds or even entire match to adapt. When you get used to playing certain way changing that can be frustrating...I know I could not stand the Batarians at first, slow moving tanks but once you learn how to use them they can be lot of fun.

[PrebuiltTub]

duno, i think vorcha and batarian melee builds are viable on gold, though you certainly wont be topping the scoreboard vs infiltrators and adepts

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Why would anyone pick the Krosent over Kroldier?

Inferno grenades>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lift grenades+Tech armor+Incinerate.

[Pitznik]

Sempati wrote...

Think it is more a matter of playing style and practice. First time I use a new class I need a few rounds or even entire match to adapt. When you get used to playing certain way changing that can be frustrating...I know I could not stand the Batarians at first, slow moving tanks but once you learn how to use them they can be lot of fun.

Batarians aren't slow... they're pretty damn fast actually. Not Drell-fast, but still fast.

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Why would anyone pick the Krosent over Kroldier?

Inferno grenades>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lift grenades+Tech armor+Incinerate.

TA gives you better protection and either passive power bonus or damage bonus, it's way better than Fortification. And on silver straight up damage from Lift nade is usually better than dot from Infernade, since mobs tend to die fast. Don't know about Gold. I prefer Carnage to Incinerate, but I build my Sentinel without Incinerate anyway.

Also, TA explosion kill makes your epeen grow!

[Homey C-Dawg]

All three of the classes OP mentioned have a lot to offer if you get up in the enemies face with them, which on gold requires a lot of careful flanking followed by short bursts of massive carnage.

[knightshieldatr]

Talk to my Vorch sentinel wit Harrier and cluster grenades. Coupled with bloodkust and a few melee attacks here and there, he rips everything apart. Don't ever bother with flamer, only once in a blue moon, just too slow.

[Mercedes595]

Ok, I know, that this thread is probably done, but I will add my 2 cents.
All those classes/races have something going for them but also require certain play-style and mind-set. If you dont have it, you will not like what those classes offer. I personally love the Batarian Soldier (playing silver with ease), but I am not able to play Krogans and vorcha on anything but bronze. I just dont feel comfortable with them. Funny thing is, i dont much care for Batarian Sentinel either
So if you are born infiltrator or adept, of course you will not feel good with these chracters as they require diffferent playstyle....

Modifié par Mercedes595, 23 juin 2012 - 10:41 .

[thesnake777]

I used the batarians...I dont like them that much..mainly because I cant roll..I find it annoying..