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[DirtySHISN0]

OH SH*T, better dodge before that hits me!

oh yeah.

They can't dodge. BALLS.
Everytime i play a krogan/batarian/turian. True story.


Needless to say after a few trials with each i never used any version of them again. Same goes for drell and vorcha because of their miniscule shields.

And humans. Spent the whole campaign as a human don't use those either.

Also vanguards never shall i use.

Male quarians. Didn't bother with those either.

Never been much for engineers truth be told.

Modifié par DirtySHISN0, 23 juin 2012 - 10:48 .

[Gornok]

wow... sorry that you can't find your way with the vorcha... this bootleg wolverine rocks!

learn how to kill faster and stack properly

and parry around bosses and burn the enemies

[palmof40sorrows]

Totally agree with OP. Never thought I could use a vorcha on gold, got thrown into a gold match midway through wave 4, made it to full extraction while contributing an amount of points commensurate with the rounds I played. Thought I couldn't manage a batarian on silver, totally rocked that the other day. Already knew how to play Krogan, so there you go. But yeah, lovin' my balistic blade viper x totin' batarian soldier and my 'nade chuckin' super-dodgin' bloodlust havin' vorcha sentinel.

[jrod512ATX]

AlienSpaceBats wrote...

It's you, not them. I play on gold with these classes all the time.

THIS.  I play Batarian and Vorcha and they are just brutal.  If you get into a rhythym those Vorcha just seem unkillable...

[Sabbatine]

szkasypcze wrote...

This was supposed to be just an another operation. Like many before and many to come. I picked Vorcha soldier and started the game. And then I got struck......

....I can't play him. No, not that I don't know how to. Somewhere in the back of my mind this thought was always there, but I never gave it any interest. I have never played Vorcha nor Krogan nor Batarian. Well, maybe 1 or 2, but that's just it. And I never knew why. Now I know. They just totally suck. In comparison to other species they have very few to offer. I'm not gonna go into secifics, cause I just want to share my view.

So thank you Bioware that you have made me realize this. Apart from this operation (and maybe some more if it's required) I will never play those species.

This operation helped us realize you have no idea what you're talking about.  Those classes do not suck, (probably) least of all the vorcha soldier.

[Hexi-decimal]

5DVz wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

5DVz wrote...

I agree 100% with OP.

Vorcha, Krogans and Batarians suck in comparison to the favored classes. Nerfing the favored classes only ruins the enjoyment of the game since the other classes are NOT fun at all.[OPINION]

OR : you could get better with those classes you don't like. They can perform pretty well in the hands of any decent player. [Fact]

And you know what? They're even fun to play. [Opinion]

Performance =/= Enjoyment /fact

Don't tell me which class I need to enjoy more.  

True enough.  However you probably shouldn't say they suck.  Then you make it sound like it's fact that they are worse than the other races, which isn't true at all.  In other words Your lack of enjoyment =/= an ineffective race/class.

[morph4037]

I agree with the op when he said this operation made my open my eyes.

Finally found a sentinel that I enjoy playing and with a shot gun no less. I absolutely abhor shoty's but my lil vorcha rocks the Reegar like a pro. /tear

[lpconfig]

Batarians are awesome. Krogans can easily melee on gold. Vorcha are incredibly persistant and pretty durable. All very effective.

[Sidney]

They may not suck but they're awful to play for me. I hate how slow the Krogan and Batarians are. It is like playing in molasses. I've only got the Vorcha S and Bloodlust is a 2nd rate Hunter Mode to me. Regen is nice but the need to turn around kills fast really hurts you when you face off vs bosses or if you need to move to another spawn point. The Flamer is a real win-lose power because it kills your movement and you can't fire your weapon. If you play these classes you need to be willing to get up close and personal because things like Flamer and Ballistics Blade are trash at range. Carnage is the only power among all of them useful at range.

I'll again say how much I HATE grenades. They're great, they're powerful but they just do not respawn enough for me to use them effectively. I went 6 rounds on Silver w/o being able to restock a grenade in between rounds.

I think the thing I've learned more than anything is what a bad matchup these classes are with the Geth.

[Hexi-decimal]

newman982 wrote...

Batarians are awesome. Krogans can easily melee on gold. Vorcha are incredibly persistant and pretty durable. All very effective.

yeah and when you just wanna have fun, I pull out my melee vorcha soldier on silver >8 D

[Ogrinash]

Batarian Soldier is probably one of the most powerful classes in the game. If I want to win at Gold, I take him. Pure crowd control.

Vorcha [and Krogan] are very Gold viable.

[aerowars617]

Ive done a few Gold games as Kroguard this weekend, even a Reaper Gold as a Vorcha Sentinel... Those mass Brutes/Ravagers/Banshees didn't stand a chance against Flamer & Reegar shotgun... I never thought it would be possible until I tried it!

[SkreeMalicious]

BW should have just been honest with themselves and made the squad challenge 'use any non Infiltrator', and complete it with no Infiltrators in your group.

But in all honesty, i had a ton of fun playing my non infiltrators...

JK, it was bad. couldnt wait to finish it to get back to mah Inf

[capn233]

Krogan Battlemaster is awesome. And Krogan Sentinel is pretty good.

Personally I don't care for the Vorcha or Batarians.

[DamiosD]

I like playing with Batarians sentinels, for me that's the reall tank. they can take alott of fire before going down and you can trap phantoms and others like a fly in a spiders web. Should anything come to close you just punch there lights out or smack your rifle across there head in the hope they learn not to mess with a batarian...which off course they never do. Soldiers aren't bad either with there blade.

Vorcha's rely to much on kills, but are good in melee...Just imagine those poor cerberus beeing chased down by a vicious looking alien trying to slash them or set them on fire...they must have nightmares...
Krogans, well i never play with them... but i have seen players use them very well, beeing melee tanks...knocking everything across the room, with the occasional good night kiss... However it could also be the opposite, meaning they go down every half a minute.

[LeandroBraz]

szkasypcze wrote...

This was supposed to be just an another operation. Like many before and many to come. I picked Vorcha soldier and started the game. And then I got struck......

....I can't play him. No, not that I don't know how to. Somewhere in the back of my mind this thought was always there, but I never gave it any interest. I have never played Vorcha nor Krogan nor Batarian. Well, maybe 1 or 2, but that's just it. And I never knew why. Now I know. They just totally suck. In comparison to other species they have very few to offer. I'm not gonna go into secifics, cause I just want to share my view.

So thank you Bioware that you have made me realize this. Apart from this operation (and maybe some more if it's required) I will never play those species.

 Okay, comeback here when you finally realize that you s*ck and don't know how to use this races.


 I had now one of my best matches in godess (geth/gold) using a vorcha, with other vorcha and two krogans. We keep walking together, bring the hell to the synthetics, uncomparable more fun than playing with 3 infilttrators all the time. This ops gave some variety to the lobbies, I hope there will be more ops like that...

[Syrus101]

I have no issues playing Krogan or Batarian on Silver. never attempted gold with them yet. to me they just require a different play style than the other races. Geth for example. they are glass cannons. if you loose your shields the enemy just needs to cough on you and you fall over.

(I still think the Geth shields should be on par with Krogan shields.... I mean.... common... Geth are supposed to have the best/one of the best shielding system in the Galaxy... why isnt it shown?) doesnt stop me playing them though lol

[Kingston Atticus]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

All three of the classes OP mentioned have a lot to offer if you get up in the enemies face with them, which on gold requires a lot of careful flanking followed by short bursts of massive carnage.

Take the weight decrease for shotguns and snipers, then give the Bat Sol an Indra and Disciple/eviscorator. Max BB, Ba, Batarian training, 5 in fitness and 3 in infernades. I have come in second a few times with that on gold. Of course equipment and gear also always helps.

[mpompeo27]

All of these characters are good. I don't know what you're talking about. Inferno grenades = monsters

[Freskione2]

It opened my eyes as well. I can't play a Krogan for nothing in the world. I've tried, a number of times. I still suck.

However, I did find I enjoyed the Vorcha sentinel quite a bit. Didn't get the hang of it completely but managed quite a few games where I didn't die too much. Wish I didn't die at all as they're supposed to be super health resilient but I just am not that good with them, but they were fun to try and I'll probably play Vic the Vorcha again tomorrow.

[a ViciousFerret]

Nissun wrote...

Boo hoo I don't know how to use this class, so clearly this class sucks! Not me! The class! Boo hoo!



No offense.

^^^^^^^^^^^
Batarian Soldier is one of the best classes out there IMO. Batarian Sentinel doesn't fall far behind.

I can see the argument for Krogans being sub-par to other classes, but they definitely are not useless either.

I still haven't figured out how to play Vorcha so I can't comment, but I've seen people use them very well.

[drmoose00]

my KV rocks on gold. No carnage, fully spec'd for health/sheilds, he's pretty damn hard to kill.

just learning to use the Batarian Soldier, but he does really well on Silver - pretty easy to play actually, and once i learn the timing of BB and grenades a bit better, coupled with the Wraith, the Hurricane, or the Harrier, I think he will do pretty well on gold.

The vorcha on the other hand, well, I just can't figure him out. I know some pepoople claim he is the most survivable in the game, but i have yet to see it. When I see one on gold, he is either dying all over the place or hanging back with 3rd or 4th on the scoreboard. Usually on bronze or Silver they die a lot too, although they tend to do a bit better.

I am sure he works for some, but I don't think I will ever get him. Of course, I said that about the GI (I couldn't really get him going at first), and, well, I got him down pretty good...

Modifié par lemon00, 24 juin 2012 - 02:22 .

[drmoose00]

LeandroBraz wrote...


 Okay, comeback here when you finally realize that you s*ck and don't know how to use this races.

no need to be such an obnoxious a-hole...

[Leones Maneres]

szkasypcze wrote...

This was supposed to be just an another operation. Like many before and many to come. I picked Vorcha soldier and started the game. And then I got struck......

....I can't play him. No, not that I don't know how to. Somewhere in the back of my mind this thought was always there, but I never gave it any interest. I have never played Vorcha nor Krogan nor Batarian. Well, maybe 1 or 2, but that's just it. And I never knew why. Now I know. They just totally suck. In comparison to other species they have very few to offer. I'm not gonna go into secifics, cause I just want to share my view.

So thank you Bioware that you have made me realize this. Apart from this operation (and maybe some more if it's required) I will never play those species.

5 pages?  Really people?

You give a troll this much attention, and he's just going to do it again, and again, and a...oh crap.

[Leones Maneres]

a ViciousFerret wrote...

Nissun wrote...

Boo hoo I don't know how to use this class, so clearly this class sucks! Not me! The class! Boo hoo!



No offense.

^^^^^^^^^^^
Batarian Soldier is one of the best classes out there IMO. Batarian Sentinel doesn't fall far behind.

I can see the argument for Krogans being sub-par to other classes, but they definitely are not useless either.

I still haven't figured out how to play Vorcha so I can't comment, but I've seen people use them very well.

Totally agree - well, until they brought out the Vorcha anyway.  I love playing a batarian and meleeing fast - what other race uses their weapon as a club?  LOVE that.

But since the crazy kitty Vorcha grab move came out - I have to give them the highest rating for entertainment value.