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[Taboo]

That would be unfair. Completely. There MUST be a price.

[InHarmsWay]

Taboo-XX wrote...

That would be unfair. Completely. There MUST be a price.

Cause all those soldiers dying is just not enough.

/s

[Spartanburger]

iakus wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Anyway I'm updating the OP with this:

twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/216600049491251200
"A while ago I asked Weekes can geth and EDI survive Destroy if EMS is high. He didn't know answer at the time and a spoiler."

"I believe it was determined that they do not :("

Don't know about anyone else, but that right there renders EC an utter waste of time for me 

Same here.
Them surviving was the only thing I really cared about in the EC and now, I just don't care.

yeah, I'll play it, but it's just going to make everything worse.
Congrats, BioWare. Not only have you killed the franchise by serving us crap for desert, now you're trying to disguise the crap in polish and shine.

[GreenDragon37]

Taboo-XX wrote...

That would be unfair. Completely. There MUST be a price.

The destruction of the Mass Relays wasn't enough? 

[eoinnx03]

Spartanburger wrote...

iakus wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Anyway I'm updating the OP with this:

twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/216600049491251200
"A while ago I asked Weekes can geth and EDI survive Destroy if EMS is high. He didn't know answer at the time and a spoiler."

"I believe it was determined that they do not :("

Don't know about anyone else, but that right there renders EC an utter waste of time for me 

Same here.
Them surviving was the only thing I really cared about in the EC and now, I just don't care.

yeah, I'll play it, but it's just going to make everything worse.
Congrats, BioWare. Not only have you killed the franchise by serving us crap for desert, now you're trying to disguise the crap in polish and shine.

Yeah this news has defiantly dampened down any enthusiasm
for the EC I was feeling, and I was already finding it hard to be enthused
about it.

Modifié par eoinnx03, 25 juin 2012 - 02:03 .

[devSin]

I posted this earlier, but if it happens anyway, it cannot be a price.

EDI and the geth always die. So it's not a price of Shepard surviving, unless destroy truly has no validity as a choice beyond having Shepard live.

You can't have both. Either destroy is a valid option, on equal footing with control and synthesis, or it is the throwaway ending that is only there so people can imagine the protagonist survived.

There is no price to Shepard surviving, else there is no purpose to destroy beyond Shepard surviving.

They basically took the clearest option of victory, distorted it beyond all recognition, and then tacked on Shepard's death rattle to try to balance it out (but only for those who engage in multiplayer).

Modifié par devSin, 25 juin 2012 - 02:12 .

[eoinnx03]

The ending is bleak enough, why does EDI and the Geth have to die if I want little blue children?
Then again I bet just to be dicks they'll get rid of the breath scene so Shepard dies in all of the colours.
Bleak does not always = Good writing. Sometimes, but not always.

[eoinnx03]

devSin wrote...

I posted this earlier, but if it happens anyway, it cannot be a price.

EDI and the geth always die. So it's not a price of Shepard surviving, unless destroy truly has no validity as a choice beyond having Shepard live.

You can't have both. Either destroy is a valid option, on equal footing with control and synthesis, or it is the throwaway ending that is only there so people can imagine the protagonist survived.

There is no price to Shepard surviving, else there is no purpose to destroy beyond Shepard surviving.

Yup pretty much.It's not like the writers care about their writing actually meaning anything. Actually that's not fair, I just mean two writers, the rest of the ME3 writers are fine.

[eoinnx03]

So in order to have the possiblity of Shepard surviving (which I really want) you have to murder EDI and the Geth.

''DOES THIS UNIT HAVE A SOAL?''....I guess that was all pointless
''Only now do I feel truly alive'' ........Well not for long.

I already feel horrible about this.

[Someone With Mass]

They've just made the conflict between the quarians and the geth as well as the interactions about EDI's character development utterly pointless by letting the geth and her die in the best case scenario in the Destroy ending.

I guess a GOOD ending where one could feel that something was actually ACCOMPLISHED without the feel of the undoing of so many things in the process only for that almost childish feel of sacrifice (you can't get that message through unless you smack it over people's heads every fifteen minutes, right?) was just too much to ask for. These endings are without a doubt some of, if not THE worst writing I have ever seen.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 25 juin 2012 - 02:25 .

[TheOptimist]

iakus wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Anyway I'm updating the OP with this:

twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/216600049491251200
"A while ago I asked Weekes can geth and EDI survive Destroy if EMS is high. He didn't know answer at the time and a spoiler."

"I believe it was determined that they do not :("

Don't know about anyone else, but that right there renders EC an utter waste of time for me

I'm with you. God forbid we get an ending where it feels like we actually won.

EDIT
*Sigh* I'm not giving up on EC yet, but this news is not encouraging.

Modifié par TheOptimist, 25 juin 2012 - 02:30 .

[GreenDragon37]

TheOptimist wrote...

iakus wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Anyway I'm updating the OP with this:

twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/216600049491251200
"A while ago I asked Weekes can geth and EDI survive Destroy if EMS is high. He didn't know answer at the time and a spoiler."

"I believe it was determined that they do not :("

Don't know about anyone else, but that right there renders EC an utter waste of time for me

I'm with you. God forbid we get an ending where it feels like we actually won.

No, that's not artistic. 

[redcarpet26]

If the evidence for confiming Geth/EDI death in Destroy is a Jessica Merizan tweet, I think I'll wait until Tuesday for verification thank you very much.

[eoinnx03]

So the **** storm of our time begins. TONIGHT!
Have a read of that. I'm only jokin about the **** storm, but who knows maybe it'll be bigger then last time.
Anyway the press are already getting wind of the aparent disapointment of the EC annoucement.

http://www.gamefront...t-fix-anything/

[Someone With Mass]

It's really sad when fanfictions have better and more satisfying conclusions. Especially when you think about the fact that they won't even get paid for it.

[TheOptimist]

redcarpet26 wrote...

If the evidence for confiming Geth/EDI death in Destroy is a Jessica Merizan tweet, I think I'll wait until Tuesday for verification thank you very much.

Yeah, it would be nice if this turned out to be yet another accidental miscommunication, but I've got a feeling my luck's not that good.

[Zu Long]

redcarpet26 wrote...

If the evidence for confiming Geth/EDI death in Destroy is a Jessica Merizan tweet, I think I'll wait until Tuesday for verification thank you very much.

That's really all we can do. Personally, I'm going to load up on my hopes and dreams for a happy, satisfying conclusion to this epic series, charge headlong towards the Destroy option, and see what happens.

[eoinnx03]

redcarpet26 wrote...

If the evidence for confiming Geth/EDI death in Destroy is a Jessica Merizan tweet, I think I'll wait until Tuesday for verification thank you very much.

Oh yeah, I'm sure she's a lovely person, but it almost seems like she gets told something then an hour later someone in charge goes ''OH CRAP NO! WE ARN'T DOING THAT' NOW'

then we all call her a heartless liar and then when she tries to exlain what happend it gets missed in the angry people shouting over the internet.

Modifié par eoinnx03, 25 juin 2012 - 02:35 .

[Trauma3x]

I don't suppose anyone knows if there are additional stuff for Miranda, I'm currently playing Withe her as my Sheps LI

[PsyrenY]

InHarmsWay wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

That would be unfair. Completely. There MUST be a price.

Cause all those soldiers dying is just not enough.

/s

You do realize that the Reapers usually kill EVERYONE when they roll through? (Advanced species that is.)

We're the only ones out of countless cycles to not only beat them, but to do so with enough races to rebuild viable populations. So long as there are enough left to do that much, no bodycount is too great.

[eoinnx03]

Trauma3x wrote...

I don't suppose anyone knows if there are additional stuff for Miranda, I'm currently playing Withe her as my Sheps LI

Oh dear...I'm going to take a gamble and say...no.....

[TheOptimist]

Optimystic_X wrote...

You do realize that the Reapers usually kill EVERYONE when they roll through? (Advanced species that is.)

We're the only ones out of countless cycles to not only beat them, but to do so with enough races to rebuild viable populations. So long as there are enough left to do that much, no bodycount is too great.

The term 'pyrrhic victory' sums up my reaction to that.  Guess 'we'll win this war without sacrificing the soul of our species' was another thing that got dropped by the wayside for the writing staff.

[eoinnx03]

TheOptimist wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

You do realize that the Reapers usually kill EVERYONE when they roll through? (Advanced species that is.)

We're the only ones out of countless cycles to not only beat them, but to do so with enough races to rebuild viable populations. So long as there are enough left to do that much, no bodycount is too great.

The term 'pyrrhic victory' sums up my reaction to that.  Guess 'we'll win this war without sacrificing the soul of our species' was another thing that got dropped by the wayside for the writing staff.

'we'll win this war without sacrificing the soul of our species'

That turned out to be so hollow. It meant nothing.

[jules_vern18]

gosimmons wrote...

Erixxxx wrote...
We still do not know how much alive Shep really is when you've got the "perfect" ending. Could be a couple of broken bones, or all of his/her internal organs could be in the process of shutting down completely since the implants were fried by the energy wave.

As charming as seeing a mangled vegative Shepard would be, I was hoping the EC was planning to make the ending a little more bittersweet. Hearing the Geth are confirmed dead on Destroy further lowers my expectations.

No need to confirm it, it was stated clearly in the game - that's why Destroy is the Renegade choice.  Pick control and you can fly the damn things into a star if you want, but you sacrifice your corporeal form and nobody else has to die (Paragon).

Synthesis, the third option (BatSh*t Crazy), is just horrifying and mind-boggling.

[Iakus]

Optimystic_X wrote...


You do realize that the Reapers usually kill EVERYONE when they roll through? (Advanced species that is.)

We're the only ones out of countless cycles to not only beat them, but to do so with enough races to rebuild viable populations. So long as there are enough left to do that much, no bodycount is too great.

I'd rather not have to defeat the Reapers by playing Jigsaw-Catalyst's game, thanks