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The Indoctrination Theory: A Documentary (Part 2)


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In the Shepard breath scene, we're assuming this is a side view of his/her abdomen, right? Why does it look like they don't have a head attached at the top?

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Modifié par LazyTechGuy, 25 juin 2012 - 01:48 .


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IndridColdx wrote...

hornedfrog87 wrote...

I enjoyed the documentary, but what is your response to Hudson/Walters saying the EC will not counter or support the IT? And one last question, what is the response in regards to Bioware only providing additional scenes and epilogue scenes? Thanks for the awesome work and effort, I was simply curious.

I'm pretty sure Casey and Mac didn't say any of those things.  


We're really walking the line of delusion here.  Jessica Merizan said that EC will not include IT but that there won't be anything in it to stop fans from continuing to believe (you can just believe that the new scenes and epilogue remain a hallucination). 

inb4 JessicaMerizan is an unreliable source; she has played the EC and would have remained silent on this (as she has on countless other topics) if it weren't the case.

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LazyTechGuy:

1. Everybody's Shepard is unique so they aren't going to show the head.
2. It would be awfully hard to breathe without a head.

Therefore we can assume there is a head.

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Another great job by Clevernoob. He definitely knows how to layout an entertaining argument even if I don't agree with everything he says. I guess we'll know for certain (at least let's hope so) on Tuesday. He's undeniably correct that if we don't get the clarity and closure Bioware promised the sh*t storm will continue.

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Seboist wrote...

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Donate? Lolwut.


These nutjobs just keep giving us reasons to dislike them don't they?


You are one sad pathetic soul, are you really that small minded that you hate people that have different opinions. People who believe in IT are not harming you in anyway but yet here you are insulting them.  I dont believe in IT I dont think Walters and Hudson can pull somthing like that off. But I dont go into threads raging at people who are having fun and just coming up with theories.

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Wow if you dont believe after the documentry I well I.... I guess people still do believe that ****es never killed jews or that 911 never happened i guess they also play mass effect....

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Sowilo wrote...

Wow if you dont believe after the documentry I well I.... I guess people still do believe that ****es never killed jews or that 911 never happened i guess they also play mass effect....


Godwin.

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jules_vern18 wrote...

We're really walking the line of delusion here.  Jessica Merizan said that EC will not include IT but that there won't be anything in it to stop fans from continuing to believe (you can just believe that the new scenes and epilogue remain a hallucination). 

inb4 JessicaMerizan is an unreliable source; she has played the EC and would have remained silent on this (as she has on countless other topics) if it weren't the case.


Merizan is also stating - and continuing to state as of an hour ago - that one should keep an open mind about the EC endings. Just like with any PR double speak, it can be taken different ways.  Maybe IT isn't explicitly spelled out but rather strongly inferred, where one has to keep an open mind to see if rather than taking everything at face value. How could they infer it without giving an ending?  Dunno. Maybe IT is a "walking dream" type thing and as CleverNoob's video shows, maybe Shepard is walking around the Conduit Beam and envisioning that it's the Crucible chamber. Maybe those Husks were really soldiers coming to his aid and Marauder Shields was Garius, whom you just killed. Dunno. We'll see. But keep an open mind. 

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zambot wrote...

Sowilo wrote...

Wow if you dont believe after the documentry I well I.... I guess people still do believe that ****es never killed jews or that 911 never happened i guess they also play mass effect....


Godwin.

/thread


hahahah thats awsome..... techinally my arguement is that the events that people compair in the godwin theory acutally occured...

Modifié par Sowilo, 25 juin 2012 - 02:49 .


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Just finished the video, and he really does do a nice job of looking at the argument from a lot of different angles. He also does seem to have an open mind, but I know there will still be the nay sayers. My favorite part of the IT video is he doesn't just say everybody else is stupid, rather he is sharing his view on the end logically.

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That video was good and you should feel good. I'm still not convinced, but it was certainly persuasive. I'll call this one plausible.

Modifié par Slappy Ya Face, 25 juin 2012 - 03:38 .


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And he does it again. No guts. Look, if you're a real artist, have the quad to put IT out there and stand behind it, even if IT fails. You don't get to hedge your bets with an "it doesn't even matter if IT isn't true" or an "if they don't confirm IT in the EC, I'll put out another doc." THAT is not artistic integrity.

Modifié par Deadpool9, 25 juin 2012 - 04:35 .


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Sowilo wrote...

Wow if you dont believe after the documentry I well I.... I guess people still do believe that ****es never killed jews or that 911 never happened i guess they also play mass effect....


Comparing anyone who doesn't believe in your interpretation of a video game to Holocaust deniers. Even if it was a joke, you should be embarassed for making that post.

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Sdrol117 wrote...

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Good video.

I don't believe in IT but this made me more warmed up to the idea.


This. I have to say i believe this may have been a plan, and it was scrapped, or executed poorly. 



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The more Jessica Merizan tweets about the EC, the less faith I actually have in the IT.

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Great job again. Looking forward to an update after the EC gets released.

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Thanks for the Part 2, watching it now.

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Amazing video. I hope this is all true. If it's not, BioWare just simply forgot how to write in the last 10 minutes of the game. Not very likely, I assume.

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Dendio1 wrote...

The various tweets from Merizan suggest that destroy is the best ending, but doesn't necessarily prove IT.


Said this in the other thread, but great video and was a pleasure to watch. Thanks for all your hardwork.


I'd say about all those tweets shown, individually and as a whole, could very easily be taken to mean that we are supposed to each come up with our own "headcanon".

We'll know in another day (...or a little longer, for those of us who choose to replay from the beginning :) ).

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 A lot of plausibility this time around  - as there should be.

As much as I support IT, it is all speculation with assorted bits of strong evidence. As it is, I'm not sure whether I'll believe Bioware had planned this all along, or, if the ending will have adopted IT in some twisted way. What's frustrating, is that we may never know. No matter what Bioware says/does it'll be nearly impossible to prove whether they genuinely planned this.

Regardles, excellent job with the video!
Your editing, voice work, and bad jokes always show quality and I appreciate the effort you put into a project like this.
I do hope you caught up on those 12-15ish hours of editing that should've been used to, I don't know, sleep?
Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Looking forward to Tuesday!  

Modifié par aaron baba, 25 juin 2012 - 05:42 .


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Whatever happens with the EC, these documentaries are amazing! Kudos to you, sir!

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Another great video... I can only hope that you're true. Or atleast that Bioware finds a way to make the ending (at face value) good.

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I forgot how coy Gamble looked at that press conference.

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Plausible: The Documentary

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I REALLY hope that IT turns out to be confirmed if only for the sheer amount of work that was put into this!