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[niripas]

For the sake of the event I was playing my Kroguard for the first time. There was a gold match against Cerberus. Two Kroguards, one Asari Justicar and Geth Infiltrator. For kicks and giggles I put cyclonic modulator on my char. What a match it was. Basically everything got destroyed in no time. Phantoms? Charge, step back, shoot in the head. Rinse and repeat. We ended gold in 20 minutes, Kroguards had over 100k, infiltrator barely 30k. Pure ownage. So If people are complaining about Infs being OP - sorry.  "He can dump aggro on the rest of the team!!1 one!!" - cool, bring it on!. So - please BW, nerf the Kroguards. Having almost 4k shields and ability to regen them every few seconds, killing most things around it's just not fun. It's boring. I tried to repeat this thing in the next match - without CM. So just 1800 shields. Oh well. What the difference it made? In time they were depleted I could charge again. As I said - the most OP char in the game. GI is a small pinky compared to this one.

[ShadixDX]

He's also the most flexible. Try purging barrier while in cover on a wall as him.

[astheoceansblue]

One instance of a bad infiltrator and decent Kroguards does not OP make.

Modifié par astheoceansblue, 24 juin 2012 - 06:29 .

[jrod512ATX]

I've played the class a total of 3 times I think, once when it first came out and then twice this weekend to help out with the N7 challenge. Lemme tell ya, charging a Phantom and then heavy melee'ing is a blast...she doesn't know what happened...

I love how the heavy melee flings enemies across the screen. Kroguard is very powerful...still not too sure about the barrier...I mean I feel like the enemies just are very briefly inconvenienced by it...

[Razerath]

I run 6/6/6/6/0 on my GI. Survivability is not why Infiltrators can be OP.

Kroguards are just plain out awesome and fun to play but I personally have never been outscored by one, public or private when using an Infiltrator ( namely GI ). So I am not sure about that Infiltrator you played with being a good example of why Infiltrators are not OP..

[RoseLaddie]

Not sure if serious...

[KiraTsukasa]

They also tend to lack brains. Whenever I play with a vanguard, of any sort, I'll switch to asari justicar and area reave everything I can. They all charge or nova or cluster grenade or SOMETHING to detonate, except krogan vanguards. The only time one will set one off is if I sneak in a reave right before they charge.

[PensCeltsFan]

No Character is truly OP. But the turian soldier can tear through anything without any effort. He might not be a tank (despite what some clame he should be) but he can drown the bad guys in a hail of mass effect lead.
The Kroguard is a bloody beast thou.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

You can't be serious.

[Pitznik]

ShadixDX wrote...

He's also the most flexible. Try purging barrier while in cover on a wall as him.

NOOOOOOOOOO! That is just wrong.

Yeah, Kroguards ae very hard to kill, they don't do that much damage but still I consider them one of the strongest characters available. But they won't ever be nerfed - people insist on playing them as melee, and even if the rage wouldn't be broken melee can't do so much damage as good shotgun - Graal, Reegar, Wraith or Talon.

[Meatiershower]

I want the Kroguard with 4000 shields...

[Astartes Marine]

I thought that was the intent. Even lore-wise Krogan Battlemasters are some of the fiercest warriors around. Makes sense here.

[Pitznik]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

They also tend to lack brains. Whenever I play with a vanguard, of any sort, I'll switch to asari justicar and area reave everything I can. They all charge or nova or cluster grenade or SOMETHING to detonate, except krogan vanguards. The only time one will set one off is if I sneak in a reave right before they charge.

When I play as Kroguard I don't really have much time to pick targets, I charge every cd to keep myself alive. So I sometimes miss the warped/reaved guy, simply because I press charge button at the same time as I notice other enemy suddenly glowing blue. I have area charge evolution, so he usually explodes anyway, but not always, it's not really comparable to Nova.

Btw, I LOVE when I charge enemy set up for BE, it simply feels good knowing your charge will have so powerful impact. I feel like human or rather Krogan rocket missile.

Modifié par Pitznik, 24 juin 2012 - 06:43 .

[tonnactus]

Pitznik wrote...

Yeah, Kroguards ae very hard to kill, they don't do that much damage but still I consider them one of the strongest characters available. But they won't ever be nerfed - people insist on playing them as melee, and even if the rage wouldn't be broken melee can't do so much damage as good shotgun - Graal, Reegar, Wraith or Talon.

Really not?? (except every shot with you claymore is a headshot) Do the math again.

Modifié par tonnactus, 24 juin 2012 - 06:43 .

[xtorma]

niripas wrote...

For the sake of the event I was playing my Kroguard for the first time. There was a gold match against Cerberus. Two Kroguards, one Asari Justicar and Geth Infiltrator. For kicks and giggles I put cyclonic modulator on my char. What a match it was. Basically everything got destroyed in no time. Phantoms? Charge, step back, shoot in the head. Rinse and repeat. We ended gold in 20 minutes, Kroguards had over 100k, infiltrator barely 30k. Pure ownage. So If people are complaining about Infs being OP - sorry.  "He can dump aggro on the rest of the team!!1 one!!" - cool, bring it on!. So - please BW, nerf the Kroguards. Having almost 4k shields and ability to regen them every few seconds, killing most things around it's just not fun. It's boring. I tried to repeat this thing in the next match - without CM. So just 1800 shields. Oh well. What the difference it made? In time they were depleted I could charge again. As I said - the most OP char in the game. GI is a small pinky compared to this one.

Your opinion is invalid because it's not about infiltrators.

Modifié par xtorma, 24 juin 2012 - 06:45 .

[Pitznik]

tonnactus wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

Yeah, Kroguards ae very hard to kill, they don't do that much damage but still I consider them one of the strongest characters available. But they won't ever be nerfed - people insist on playing them as melee, and even if the rage wouldn't be broken melee can't do so much damage as good shotgun - Graal, Reegar, Wraith or Talon.

Really not?? (except every shot with you claymore is a headshot) Do the math again.

I'm not talking about single hit damage, but compare time needed to headshot three times with Reegar or Graal to 3 x heavy melee animatiom + time to actually close range if needed. Ranged > melee.

[galaxygrunt]

ShadixDX wrote...

He's also the most flexible. Try purging barrier while in cover on a wall as him.

Ooooooooo...good tip, I never considered this!

[JustinSaneV2]

death_for_sale wrote...

A kroguard is hard to kill but it comes nowhere near the iwin button that is tactical cloak.

I love your avatar photo! 

[jrod512ATX]

JustinSaneV2 wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

A kroguard is hard to kill but it comes nowhere near the iwin button that is tactical cloak.

I love your avatar photo! 

I just spent like 20mins reading about the unexpected male demographic ages 13-35 and their fascination with ponies...I don't get it...sorry not threadjacking.

[Nitrocuban]

Krogan Vanguard needs skill, otherwise you are waiting for revive most of the time.
Vs. geth it´s even worse, charge get stunned, die.
When Krogan Vanguard is OP then what is the Novaguard?

[galaxygrunt]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

They also tend to lack brains. Whenever I play with a vanguard, of any sort, I'll switch to asari justicar and area reave everything I can. They all charge or nova or cluster grenade or SOMETHING to detonate, except krogan vanguards. The only time one will set one off is if I sneak in a reave right before they charge.

They do have the slowest cooldown for charging of all the vanguards (especially if they have their barrier up).  It might be that they'd like to charge, but can't right at that moment.

Mine only carries a Talon IV, and his cooldown is 4.64 seconds without the barrier, and 5.79 with it.

[Kronner]

Krogan Vanguard is just as good as the Geth Infiltrator. Granted, you do not deal as much damage, but you basically can't die.

Modifié par Kronner, 24 juin 2012 - 06:54 .

[galaxygrunt]

Nitrocuban wrote...

Krogan Vanguard needs skill, otherwise you are waiting for revive most of the time.
Vs. geth it´s even worse, charge get stunned, die.
When Krogan Vanguard is OP then what is the Novaguard?

I don't think they are subject to stunlock--as long as their barrier is up.

[P51Mus7ang]

I was able to trigger rage with him yesterday, may have done it before but I don't recall, OMG he is tank! Ran him with the Reegar X......aside from the laughing it is funny to imagine the expression on the enemy face when you charge and knock them off the map:) Tank Bred to prefection for sure!