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Krogan Vanguard - the most OP char in the game.


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#26
megabeast37215

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For the challenge this weekend I was a Kroguard on U/U/G and we got Condor Reapers... on wave 3 we got the high value targets. So I see this big fat group of Reapers with the target (banshee) and pull out my rocket launcher... as they come into range I charge the middle of the swarm and as soon as I hit, I aim the rocket at the floor and nuke them all. It was like a big pink Krogan nuke going off... it was so epic.

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What do you expect?
You've got the best Heavy-Melee/CQC/Tank class paired up with the best Melee-oriented power which provides insane locomotion and refills shields on impact, and a Barrier to further improve tankiness and prevent Stunlock. If you forsake Carnage, and put all points into the other powers, you're practically invulnerable on anything lower than Gold if your timing is good.

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OP - how do you get 8 power reset cards?! Me want!

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Epsilon330 wrote...

What do you expect?
You've got the best Heavy-Melee/CQC/Tank class paired up with the best Melee-oriented power which provides insane locomotion and refills shields on impact, and a Barrier to further improve tankiness and prevent Stunlock. If you forsake Carnage, and put all points into the other powers, you're practically invulnerable on anything lower than Gold if your timing is good.


I have carnaged specc'ed out but honestly when I played the class this weekend I found myself not using Carnage AT ALL.  I'm considering using a respec card, this class could be fun...

#30
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Kroguard isn't OP. Stop it.

On a related note, Kroguard is awesome and the most fun Vanguard to play as.

#31
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SHH. Be Quiet. At this rate they'll never fix the problem with Rage.

Be Quiet heathens! I actually use the Kroguard almost exclusively with my melee / BioCharge build.

Fix Rage!

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ShadixDX wrote...

He's also the most flexible. Try purging barrier while in cover on a wall as him.


:lol:

That one is true

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Nitrocuban wrote...

Krogan Vanguard needs skill, otherwise you are waiting for revive most of the time.
Vs. geth it´s even worse, charge get stunned, die.
When Krogan Vanguard is OP then what is the Novaguard?


Even I agree that Krogan Vanguards need skill to play well, this post shows you have no clue about them. Krogan Vanguard has a very strong stagger resistance! Geth is the easiest enemy for them even on Gold (because geth has no OHK). Few things can stagger a Krogan Vanguard with barrier up (like Prime melee, grenades) but those last very very short and does not prevent using charge.

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Daforth wrote...

Nitrocuban wrote...

Krogan Vanguard needs skill, otherwise you are waiting for revive most of the time.
Vs. geth it´s even worse, charge get stunned, die.
When Krogan Vanguard is OP then what is the Novaguard?


Even I agree that Krogan Vanguards need skill to play well, this post shows you have no clue about them. Krogan Vanguard has a very strong stagger resistance! Geth is the easiest enemy for them even on Gold (because geth has no OHK). Few things can stagger a Krogan Vanguard with barrier up (like Prime melee, grenades) but those last very very short and does not prevent using charge.

I'm not really sure if that's Barrier or just Vanguard got some innate resistance to stun higher than other Krogan, but it's definitely true.

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Kronner wrote...

Krogan Vanguard is just as good as the Geth Infiltrator. Granted, you do not deal as much damage, but you basically can't die.


lol no

Insta kills are the balancing mechanism for that. In order for the Krogan vanguard to be a Defensive god he has to sacrifice a ****load of offensive potential. He has literally no options for damage while maintaing a strong defense other than biotic detonations and the reegar. 

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Kronner wrote...

Krogan Vanguard is just as good as the Geth Infiltrator. Granted, you do not deal as much damage, but you basically can't die.

I've seen a handful of kroguards take all the aggression of the geth army and never die. If that rage worked properly people would ask to nerf him so quickly.

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Just played some with Reegar - love the melting stuff thingie - charge, press fire, melt everything. But it lacks armor damage, darn... Had to charge/melee that Atlases. Kroguard looks pretty slow, but it still possible to get away from the Atlas' OHK when you careful.

BTW: did the KroNuke (charge with rocket afterwards) - BRILLIANT!

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jrod512ATX wrote...

I've played the class a total of 3 times I think, once when it first came out and then twice this weekend to help out with the N7 challenge. Lemme tell ya, charging a Phantom and then heavy melee'ing is a blast...she doesn't know what happened...

I love how the heavy melee flings enemies across the screen. Kroguard is very powerful...still not too sure about the barrier...I mean I feel like the enemies just are very briefly inconvenienced by it...



I love the evil laugh as they fling an enemy off the map.  I have the most fun with my Kroguard. Posted Image

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niripas wrote...

Just played some with Reegar - love the melting stuff thingie - charge, press fire, melt everything. But it lacks armor damage, darn...

Use the shredder mod and/or armor piercing/warp ammo, problem solved.

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I think it depends on the player. I've seen some that are just... subpar. One guy on Silver kept trying to Biotic Charge and then Heavy Melee Atlases and he was insta-killed three or four waves in a row.

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No. Enough with the nerf threads.

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niripas wrote...

For the sake of the event I was playing my Kroguard for the first time. There was a gold match against Cerberus. Two Kroguards, one Asari Justicar and Geth Infiltrator. For kicks and giggles I put cyclonic modulator on my char. What a match it was. Basically everything got destroyed in no time. Phantoms? Charge, step back, shoot in the head. Rinse and repeat. We ended gold in 20 minutes, Kroguards had over 100k, infiltrator barely 30k. Pure ownage. So If people are complaining about Infs being OP - sorry.  "He can dump aggro on the rest of the team!!1 one!!" - cool, bring it on!. So - please BW, nerf the Kroguards. Having almost 4k shields and ability to regen them every few seconds, killing most things around it's just not fun. It's boring. I tried to repeat this thing in the next match - without CM. So just 1800 shields. Oh well. What the difference it made? In time they were depleted I could charge again. As I said - the most OP char in the game. GI is a small pinky compared to this one.



Cool story bro but I've never scored 200K as a Krogaurd except when soloing. GI is hee haw redonkulous and your one subjective play time adventure means jack against lifetime metrics by competent players.

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Also because of the event i played Vorcha Sentinel + Reegar (lightning gun?) specced full regen(bloodlust) and it was rediculous i mean whole groups went down in an instant. Melee a Prime? not a problem for Vorcha.. I must add that i enjoyed it.

Krogan i don't like tried them a while back won't do so again.

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Yes I agree he must be nerfed. Take away his over powered melee ability, and cut his health and shield in half. Also double the number and power and speed of all enemies. Nobody should be able to solo gold. Any class that has had someone solo gold with it needs a nerf and all enemies need a major buff. No more BE's tech bursts or nades, not all races have a dodge so that needs to go as well.

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P51Mus7ang wrote...

I was able to trigger rage with him yesterday, may have done it before but I don't recall, OMG he is tank! Ran him with the Reegar X......aside from the laughing it is funny to imagine the expression on the enemy face when you charge and knock them off the map:) Tank Bred to prefection for sure!


the visual effect for rage triggers but apparently you dont get the damage resist or melee boost from rage. its glitched on the korgan vanguard.

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Proceed for introducing the Kroguard nerf bill.

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usctrojanbulldog

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Is this a troll thread. Doesn't seem OP'd from my experience, and I don't play vanguards at all.

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this is ignoring how easly you can get stunlocked to death on gold. and the fact that to keep those shields up you have to charge the face of your enemy.

i have 2 new names for people like who are trying to find random things and calling them Op.

Cryhards and Nerfhards.

also know a already existing name...

Nerf-herders.

If Krogan Vanguard was truely OP it would be one of the most common characters played as in multiplayer.

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Hypertion wrote...

this is ignoring how easly you can get stunlocked to death on gold. and the fact that to keep those shields up you have to charge the face of your enemy.

i have 2 new names for people like who are trying to find random things and calling them Op.

Cryhards and Nerfhards.

also know a already existing name...

Nerf-herders.

If Krogan Vanguard was truely OP it would be one of the most common characters played as in multiplayer.


Second this point.

#50
MagicThoughts

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the hell is this garbage? people want to nerf every single damn thing?