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Krogan Vanguard - the most OP char in the game.


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#151
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I think the OP is just kidding, but seriously, all these "nerf this and that" topics (true or false) are just getting annoying. I hope that BW doesn't listen, because it's already a struggle to do Gold with almost any character and struggling in a game that in my opinion should be fun it's just bad. At the moment, vanguard is bugged, sentinels and soldiers are tied to the weapons the player has unlocked, so they tend to be very weak unless used with a lot of gear. IMO they don't represent a real alternative to adept, infiltrators and engineers.
Those always claiming that coordination is the right way to go, should consider that coordinating the team is difficult until you play on public hosts in EU where you can find 3 other people coming from 3 different countries and their English is poorer than mine. If it's not enough, there is lag too to frustrate Gold runs (and you don't know it before playing!).
I have already my job to struggle, please let a game be just fun, because what you call "over powered" is just counter balancing all the game flaws that are not being fixed. Thank you

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niripas wrote...

For the sake of the event I was playing my Kroguard for the first time. There was a gold match against Cerberus. Two Kroguards, one Asari Justicar and Geth Infiltrator. For kicks and giggles I put cyclonic modulator on my char. What a match it was. Basically everything got destroyed in no time. Phantoms? Charge, step back, shoot in the head. Rinse and repeat. We ended gold in 20 minutes, Kroguards had over 100k, infiltrator barely 30k. Pure ownage. So If people are complaining about Infs being OP - sorry.  "He can dump aggro on the rest of the team!!1 one!!" - cool, bring it on!. So - please BW, nerf the Kroguards. Having almost 4k shields and ability to regen them every few seconds, killing most things around it's just not fun. It's boring. I tried to repeat this thing in the next match - without CM. So just 1800 shields. Oh well. What the difference it made? In time they were depleted I could charge again. As I said - the most OP char in the game. GI is a small pinky compared to this one.


I wonder if that Asari justicar would choose 1 infiltrator and 2 kroguards or 3 infiltrators as her teammates.  I know Justicars are tough, but, to tank the aggro dump of three infiltrators, she would need full defence spec and gear.  Even then, extraction would be incredibly tough and uncertain.  And, don't forget geth stunlock and sync kills.

I'd rather share the aggro dump than take all of it.  On top of that, she would get BEs working with the Kroguards.  The infiltrators would be practically useless to her.

Modifié par nicethugbert, 25 juin 2012 - 12:16 .


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JustinSaneV2

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sy7ar wrote...

I just used a level 1 vanguard "outperformed" 2 infiltrators in a geth game, so level 1 is overpowered I guess.


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nicethugbert wrote...

niripas wrote...

For the sake of the event I was playing my Kroguard for the first time. There was a gold match against Cerberus. Two Kroguards, one Asari Justicar and Geth Infiltrator. For kicks and giggles I put cyclonic modulator on my char. What a match it was. Basically everything got destroyed in no time. Phantoms? Charge, step back, shoot in the head. Rinse and repeat. We ended gold in 20 minutes, Kroguards had over 100k, infiltrator barely 30k. Pure ownage. So If people are complaining about Infs being OP - sorry.  "He can dump aggro on the rest of the team!!1 one!!" - cool, bring it on!. So - please BW, nerf the Kroguards. Having almost 4k shields and ability to regen them every few seconds, killing most things around it's just not fun. It's boring. I tried to repeat this thing in the next match - without CM. So just 1800 shields. Oh well. What the difference it made? In time they were depleted I could charge again. As I said - the most OP char in the game. GI is a small pinky compared to this one.


I wonder if that Asari justicar would choose 1 infiltrator and 2 kroguards or 3 infiltrators as her teammates.  I know Justicars are tough, but, to tank the aggro dump of three infiltrators, she would need full defence spec and gear.  Even then, extraction would be incredibly tough and uncertain.  And, don't forget geth stunlock and sync kills.

I'd rather share the aggro dump than take all of it.  On top of that, she would get BEs working with the Kroguards.  The infiltrators would be practically useless to her.


The squad was agreed before matches. We wanted one infiltrator for difficult objectives, so he could run and cap, and all aggro was concentrating on us. Seriously - I don't think that any class at this moment is OP. They are specific builds for specific tasks. Different squad composition makes a difference. And yes - Asari was setting up the explosions whenever possible. Hacking objective was fun with bubble and two kroguards charging :)

My conclusion is - stop calling for nerfs. Play some. And if you don't like noobs with Krysae and GI - get your own team, set private match and have fun. You know - it's a game. It's made for fun!

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nicethugbert wrote...

I wonder if that Asari justicar would choose 1 infiltrator and 2 kroguards or 3 infiltrators as her teammates.  I know Justicars are tough, but, to tank the aggro dump of three infiltrators, she would need full defence spec and gear.  Even then, extraction would be incredibly tough and uncertain.  And, don't forget geth stunlock and sync kills.

I'd rather share the aggro dump than take all of it.  On top of that, she would get BEs working with the Kroguards.  The infiltrators would be practically useless to her.


As someone who plays a justicar frequently, I would definitely take the kroguards.  Charge detonates reave.  We'd have quite a fireworks show. As an aside, I did a hack objective with a DR specc'd KS the other day, and inside my bubble, he seemed truly invincible.  The damage he soaked was nuts.

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Mandalore313

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The world does not revolve around you.
Simply because you had a good gold match doesn't mean that the character that you are using is overpowered and needs to be nerfed.
If that were the case I would have made a thread for every possible combination of characters/weapons/skills.

Why don't you go outside, have a drink and try to think about this again.

#157
niripas

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Mandalore313 wrote...

The world does not revolve around you.
Simply because you had a good gold match doesn't mean that the character that you are using is overpowered and needs to be nerfed.
If that were the case I would have made a thread for every possible combination of characters/weapons/skills.

Why don't you go outside, have a drink and try to think about this again.


Why don't you read my posts carefully?

I cannot go outside - I have cancer. And cannot drink on morphine, sorry.

Modifié par niripas, 25 juin 2012 - 11:01 .