It's been a theme throughout the series that Shepard is the only one with enough of "what it takes" to save the galaxy. If he joined Saren, TIM and the droves of other weak minded examples of NPCs and was indoctrinated I would seriously give that the credit of being the worst ending in history. It would so anti-climactic and horrible.
This is why the IT is false.
Shepard is not weak minded.
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Razerath wrote...
It's been a theme throughout the series that Shepard is the only one with enough of "what it takes" to save the galaxy. If he joined Saren, TIM and the droves of other weak minded examples of NPCs and was indoctrinated I would seriously give that the credit of being the worst ending in history. It would so anti-climactic and horrible.
This is why the IT is false.
What?
The entire premise of the IT is that Shepard BREAKS indoctrination.
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:01
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The Revolut wrote...
Razerath wrote...
It's been a theme throughout the series that Shepard is the only one with enough of "what it takes" to save the galaxy. If he joined Saren, TIM and the droves of other weak minded examples of NPCs and was indoctrinated I would seriously give that the credit of being the worst ending in history. It would so anti-climactic and horrible.
This is why the IT is false.
What?
The entire premise of the IT is that Shepard BREAKS indoctrination.
The entire premise of IT is that it's actually not the truth. As in, IT isn't true. If there was in any way some sense of him "breaking" the indoctrination it wouldn't be so deeply imbedded in skepticism.
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:02
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Razerath wrote...
The entire premise of IT is that it's actually not the truth. As in, IT isn't true. If there was in any way some sense of him "breaking" the indoctrination it wouldn't be so deeply imbedded in skepticism.
Ummm, k thanks with your invaluable opinion.
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:03
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Shepard is not weak minded!
That's why Shepard surrendered to the leader of the Reapers without argument!
Wait..
That's why Shepard surrendered to the leader of the Reapers without argument!
Wait..
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:03
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The IT makes plenty of sense and bioware has not denied it and WILL NOT IN THE EC that was already stated
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:04
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The Revolut wrote...
Razerath wrote...
The entire premise of IT is that it's actually not the truth. As in, IT isn't true. If there was in any way some sense of him "breaking" the indoctrination it wouldn't be so deeply imbedded in skepticism.
Ummm, k thanks with your invaluable opinion.
No seriously, you can't prove that he is "breaking" indoctrination anymore than you can prove he had food poisoning.
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:04
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The Angry One wrote...
Shepard is not weak minded!
That's why Shepard surrendered to the leader of the Reapers without argument!
Wait..
He did, when?
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:04
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The Angry One wrote...
Shepard is not weak minded!
That's why Shepard surrendered to the leader of the Reapers without argument!
Wait..
Or it could be because it's the easiest to wrap 50 hours of gameplay?
When you are pressed for time, you pick the easiest way out. And that's exactly what Bioware did.
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:05
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No seriously, you can't prove that he is "breaking" indoctrination anymore than you can prove he had food poisoning.
No, seriously, actually take some time to read the theory and understand it before questioning it.
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:05
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DTKT wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
Shepard is not weak minded!
That's why Shepard surrendered to the leader of the Reapers without argument!
Wait..
Or it could be because it's the easiest to wrap 50 hours of gameplay?
When you are pressed for time, you pick the easiest way out. And that's exactly what Bioware did.
And then wonder why everybody questions your "ART LAWL"
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:08
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The Revolut wrote...
Razerath wrote...
No seriously, you can't prove that he is "breaking" indoctrination anymore than you can prove he had food poisoning.
No, seriously, actually take some time to read the theory and understand it before questioning it.
I have and there is no connection. Sure, it could be true just like Shepard could be tripping balls from blood loss at the end. Just like the Starchild could be lying.
My point is that it would be very unimpressive if Shepard was indoctrinated at any point even if he "broke" it. With that said, it's still stupid to say that was the idea behind IT because that's simply not in the game as a minor or major aspect of the story. Not even in the leaked original endings...
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:08
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Of course he Isn't weak-minded! His last words were those of strength, courage and greatness!
"I... Don't know..."
"I... Don't know..."
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:10
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Razerath wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
Shepard is not weak minded!
That's why Shepard surrendered to the leader of the Reapers without argument!
Wait..
He did, when?
The bit where the Catalyst said "do this" and Shepard did it.
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:10
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Razerath wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
Shepard is not weak minded!
That's why Shepard surrendered to the leader of the Reapers without argument!
Wait..
He did, when?
At the end of ME3. You know the BioWare game that was released a couple of month ago. Heard it's pretty good but the end is kind of awkward.
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:11
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Subject Alpha wrote...
Of course he Isn't weak-minded! His last words were those of strength, courage and greatness!
"I... Don't know..."
Semantics.
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:12
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DoktorAffentanz wrote...
Razerath wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
Shepard is not weak minded!
That's why Shepard surrendered to the leader of the Reapers without argument!
Wait..
He did, when?
At the end of ME3. You know the BioWare game that was released a couple of month ago. Heard it's pretty good but the end is kind of awkward.
How in the name of anything can you think Shepard surrendered?
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:12
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If Shepard was not weak minded, then why did she not challange starbrat?
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Razerath wrote...
I have and there is no connection. Sure, it could be true just like Shepard could be tripping balls from blood loss at the end. Just like the Starchild could be lying.
My point is that it would be very unimpressive if Shepard was indoctrinated at any point even if he "broke" it. With that said, it's still stupid to say that was the idea behind IT because that's simply not in the game as a minor or major aspect of the story. Not even in the leaked original endings...
So basically you're saying, "my speculations are better than your speculations."
I bet my dad could beat up your dad.
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:13
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Razerath wrote...
DoktorAffentanz wrote...
Razerath wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
Shepard is not weak minded!
That's why Shepard surrendered to the leader of the Reapers without argument!
Wait..
He did, when?
At the end of ME3. You know the BioWare game that was released a couple of month ago. Heard it's pretty good but the end is kind of awkward.
How in the name of anything can you think Shepard surrendered?
Because Shepard was completely out of character and completely bought everything the StarDouche said?
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:14
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Razerath wrote...
DoktorAffentanz wrote...
Razerath wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
Shepard is not weak minded!
That's why Shepard surrendered to the leader of the Reapers without argument!
Wait..
He did, when?
At the end of ME3. You know the BioWare game that was released a couple of month ago. Heard it's pretty good but the end is kind of awkward.
How in the name of anything can you think Shepard surrendered?
sur·ren·der /səˈrendər/
Verb:Cease resistance to an enemy or opponent and submit to their authority.
Shepard does exactly this with the Catalyst.
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:14
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1:Shepard never arguedRazerath wrote...
DoktorAffentanz wrote...
Razerath wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
Shepard is not weak minded!
That's why Shepard surrendered to the leader of the Reapers without argument!
Wait..
He did, when?
At the end of ME3. You know the BioWare game that was released a couple of month ago. Heard it's pretty good but the end is kind of awkward.
How in the name of anything can you think Shepard surrendered?
2:Shepard does not endt he war on her terms, but on the Reapers terms
3:She beleives the words of the Reaper leader
4:She does nothing but summit
If that's not surrending to the Reapers, then I don't know what is.
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Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:14
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Razerath wrote...
DoktorAffentanz wrote...
Razerath wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
Shepard is not weak minded!
That's why Shepard surrendered to the leader of the Reapers without argument!
Wait..
He did, when?
At the end of ME3. You know the BioWare game that was released a couple of month ago. Heard it's pretty good but the end is kind of awkward.
How in the name of anything can you think Shepard surrendered?
Well, s/he didn't question the options, presented by star-brat and just gave up.
