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[Razerath]

The Angry One wrote...

Razerath wrote...

If I knew that in my lifetime an inorganic species would arise and obliterate everything I loved and cared for forever I would gladly give my life so that others in the future could experience life.

How do you know?
HOW. WOULD. YOU. KNOW.

Because spacebaby tells you? Like I said, this is pointless.

So you're saying that because you think ( without ANY proof and leaving LOGIC aside ) that there is no reason to believe Starchild you would doom the future generations by just sitting down and bleeding out? Wouldn't even take the chance? I mean, how much worse can it get for organics anyways?

[Grimwick]

Razerath wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Razerath wrote...

Means to an end, we aren't talking about an AI who feels like organics do but rather feels organics have a right to feel. Get it?

I am forcing myself to calm down and not express what I truly feel right now.

I will simply state.. nothing justifies that. Nothing. If you think it does, then I suggest nobody bother debating with you as it's a lost cause.

You're selfish then. Those are my true feelings. You're basically saying that I am going to live my life even if that means no one else gets the chance in the future.

Even if trillions have to die, it's so trillions more can live.

Oh for pete's sake.

1 trillion = 1 trillion.

Therefore if the original trillion survive it is exactly the same as the second trillion not being there but without the killing.

Your argument makes no sense.

[Razerath]

Grimwick wrote...

Razerath wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Razerath wrote...

It's been a theme throughout the series that Shepard is the only one with enough of "what it takes" to save the galaxy. If he joined Saren, TIM and the droves of other weak minded examples of NPCs and was indoctrinated I would seriously give that the credit of being the worst ending in history. It would so anti-climactic and horrible.

This is why the IT is false.

So instead... Shepard does exactly what the reapers want without question?

Ergo shepard is weak minded.

I don't personally believe in IT but you're reasoning is flawed.

He didn't do exactly what the Reapers want, not in the way you're all suggesting. He is however doing what the Reapers want because the Starchild wants to help organics survive for as long as they can.

The SC is the controller/guardian of the Reapers.

The SC gives you three options to choose from. You have to choose one of them.

Therefore we are doing exactly what the Reapers wanted.

Saving everything's ass is what everyone wants. You anarchists are so hung up over the fact that it isn't directly Shepards idea on how to get rid of the Reapers. Shepard is the hand of the Catalyst who has always been the real hero.

[jpraelster93]

Grimwick wrote...

Razerath wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Razerath wrote...

Means to an end, we aren't talking about an AI who feels like organics do but rather feels organics have a right to feel. Get it?

I am forcing myself to calm down and not express what I truly feel right now.

I will simply state.. nothing justifies that. Nothing. If you think it does, then I suggest nobody bother debating with you as it's a lost cause.

You're selfish then. Those are my true feelings. You're basically saying that I am going to live my life even if that means no one else gets the chance in the future.

Even if trillions have to die, it's so trillions more can live.

Oh for pete's sake.

1 trillion = 1 trillion.

Therefore if the original trillion survive it is exactly the same as the second trillion not being there but without the killing.

Your argument makes no sense.

He is ignoring all valid arguements too obvious troll

[The Angry One]

Razerath wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Razerath wrote...

If I knew that in my lifetime an inorganic species would arise and obliterate everything I loved and cared for forever I would gladly give my life so that others in the future could experience life.

How do you know?
HOW. WOULD. YOU. KNOW.

Because spacebaby tells you? Like I said, this is pointless.

So you're saying that because you think ( without ANY proof and leaving LOGIC aside ) that there is no reason to believe Starchild you would doom the future generations by just sitting down and bleeding out? Wouldn't even take the chance? I mean, how much worse can it get for organics anyways?

Hitler tells you the only way to end world war 2 is to use his magic machine.

Do you believe him? Yes/No.

[Razerath]

Grimwick wrote...

Razerath wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Razerath wrote...

Means to an end, we aren't talking about an AI who feels like organics do but rather feels organics have a right to feel. Get it?

I am forcing myself to calm down and not express what I truly feel right now.

I will simply state.. nothing justifies that. Nothing. If you think it does, then I suggest nobody bother debating with you as it's a lost cause.

You're selfish then. Those are my true feelings. You're basically saying that I am going to live my life even if that means no one else gets the chance in the future.

Even if trillions have to die, it's so trillions more can live.

Oh for pete's sake.

1 trillion = 1 trillion.

Therefore if the original trillion survive it is exactly the same as the second trillion not being there but without the killing.

Your argument makes no sense.

I mean, if exactly 456 trillion people died its because 9835739487534987534987539487534 trillion can live in the future? Good god, I didn't think I would have to explain that. Way to read too deeply into words, like you probably did with the ending.

IT crusader, right?

[The Revolut]

Razerath wrote...

Saving everything's ass is what everyone wants. You anarchists are so hung up over the fact that it isn't directly Shepards idea on how to get rid of the Reapers. Shepard is the hand of the Catalyst who has always been the real hero.

10/10

[Bigdoser]

The catalyst the real hero? HAHAHAHAHA that's a joke right? the very thing that turns organics into goo is a hero? The very thing that wipes out civilations every 50k years is a hero? HAHAHAHAHAHA.

[The Angry One]

Razerath wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Razerath wrote...

Means to an end, we aren't talking about an AI who feels like organics do but rather feels organics have a right to feel. Get it?

I am forcing myself to calm down and not express what I truly feel right now.

I will simply state.. nothing justifies that. Nothing. If you think it does, then I suggest nobody bother debating with you as it's a lost cause.

You're selfish then. Those are my true feelings. You're basically saying that I am going to live my life even if that means no one else gets the chance in the future.

Even if trillions have to die, it's so trillions more can live.

You are calling me selfish because I don't endorse the malicious torture and murder of innocent people.
YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS. YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS.

[Ticonderoga117]

Bigdoser wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Bigdoser wrote...

Shepard should of done what isaac did at the end of dead space 2. Dead space 2 spoilers. 

www.youtube.com/watch

**** YES:O

I know hence why isaac is now in my book of awesome main characters. Villain tells isaac the plot twist 

Isaac:**** YOU AND **** YOUR MARKER *proceedes to blast villain with gun*

Amen to that. I mean he's already pretty badass in his own universe where, as a lowly engineer, took out a ship and station full of bad zombies single-handedly, he then proceeds to deliver a massive middle finger to the plot device and destroys it.

Now compare this to Shepard in ME3. Shepard has the entire galaxy (more or less) fighting along side him, yet when presented by the easiest (and most disgusting) ways out, he folds and takes the Catalyst up the rear and drinks the Kool-Aid.

Issac Clarke >>> ME3 Shepard

[Razerath]

jpraelster93 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Razerath wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Razerath wrote...

Means to an end, we aren't talking about an AI who feels like organics do but rather feels organics have a right to feel. Get it?

I am forcing myself to calm down and not express what I truly feel right now.

I will simply state.. nothing justifies that. Nothing. If you think it does, then I suggest nobody bother debating with you as it's a lost cause.

You're selfish then. Those are my true feelings. You're basically saying that I am going to live my life even if that means no one else gets the chance in the future.

Even if trillions have to die, it's so trillions more can live.

Oh for pete's sake.

1 trillion = 1 trillion.

Therefore if the original trillion survive it is exactly the same as the second trillion not being there but without the killing.

Your argument makes no sense.

He is ignoring all valid arguements too obvious troll

What obvious points, seriously? That you all just feel like Starchild is lying despite the fact that he IS THE PROOF? He isn't lying.

[jpraelster93]

Can someone request a close for this topic

[J.Random]

Razerath wrote...
The only way to stop organics from making the mistake again is Synthesis. What would a Reaper Overlord have to gain from that and what would organics have to lose?

The EVOLUTION. You don't understand, do you? Synthesis is stagnation, just like "preserving" in a reaper form. No more diversity, no more development. End of the line for everyone.

[Bigdoser]

The Angry One wrote...

Razerath wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Razerath wrote...

Means to an end, we aren't talking about an AI who feels like organics do but rather feels organics have a right to feel. Get it?

I am forcing myself to calm down and not express what I truly feel right now.

I will simply state.. nothing justifies that. Nothing. If you think it does, then I suggest nobody bother debating with you as it's a lost cause.

You're selfish then. Those are my true feelings. You're basically saying that I am going to live my life even if that means no one else gets the chance in the future.

Even if trillions have to die, it's so trillions more can live.

You are calling me selfish because I don't endorse the malicious torture and murder of innocent people.
YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS. YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS.

I think he is he called the catalyst a hero. 

[jpraelster93]

Razerath wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Razerath wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Razerath wrote...

Means to an end, we aren't talking about an AI who feels like organics do but rather feels organics have a right to feel. Get it?

I am forcing myself to calm down and not express what I truly feel right now.

I will simply state.. nothing justifies that. Nothing. If you think it does, then I suggest nobody bother debating with you as it's a lost cause.

You're selfish then. Those are my true feelings. You're basically saying that I am going to live my life even if that means no one else gets the chance in the future.

Even if trillions have to die, it's so trillions more can live.

Oh for pete's sake.

1 trillion = 1 trillion.

Therefore if the original trillion survive it is exactly the same as the second trillion not being there but without the killing.

Your argument makes no sense.

He is ignoring all valid arguements too obvious troll

What obvious points, seriously? That you all just feel like Starchild is lying despite the fact that he IS THE PROOF? He isn't lying.

how do you know what he is saying is true he says your partially Sythetic so therfore you should die if you pick destroy but YOU LIVE HE IS LYING he cant be trusted how dont you understand that

[Razerath]

The Angry One wrote...

Razerath wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Razerath wrote...

If I knew that in my lifetime an inorganic species would arise and obliterate everything I loved and cared for forever I would gladly give my life so that others in the future could experience life.

How do you know?
HOW. WOULD. YOU. KNOW.

Because spacebaby tells you? Like I said, this is pointless.

So you're saying that because you think ( without ANY proof and leaving LOGIC aside ) that there is no reason to believe Starchild you would doom the future generations by just sitting down and bleeding out? Wouldn't even take the chance? I mean, how much worse can it get for organics anyways?

Hitler tells you the only way to end world war 2 is to use his magic machine.

Do you believe him? Yes/No.

I hardly can take you seriously as it is, why try and derail this into something that cannot be compared?

Catalyst: A being that exists as proof that we will create something that can destroy us and is saying he is only doing it so that some point in the future an organic can come along and help stop.

Hitler: Kill people because I am drunk with power.

That's not even close to relatable.

[Baa Baa]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Bigdoser wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Bigdoser wrote...

Shepard should of done what isaac did at the end of dead space 2. Dead space 2 spoilers. 

www.youtube.com/watch

**** YES:O

I know hence why isaac is now in my book of awesome main characters. Villain tells isaac the plot twist 

Isaac:**** YOU AND **** YOUR MARKER *proceedes to blast villain with gun*

Amen to that. I mean he's already pretty badass in his own universe where, as a lowly engineer, took out a ship and station full of bad zombies single-handedly, he then proceeds to deliver a massive middle finger to the plot device and destroys it.

Now compare this to Shepard in ME3. Shepard has the entire galaxy (more or less) fighting along side him, yet when presented by the easiest (and most disgusting) ways out, he folds and takes the Catalyst up the rear and drinks the Kool-Aid.

Issac Clarke >>> ME3 Shepard

Agree one hundred percent

[The Angry One]

This. This is what Mass Effect has become.
Mass Effect has become something where people can sit there and try to justify torture, murder, mutilation and genocide for an appeal to probability.

And people say not to take this seriously. This was a world I LOVED, turned into a promotion for *war crimes*.
I'm about to cry.

[The Angry One]

Razerath wrote...

I hardly can take you seriously as it is, why try and derail this into something that cannot be compared?

Catalyst: A being that exists as proof that we will create something that can destroy us and is saying he is only doing it so that some point in the future an organic can come along and help stop.

Hitler: Kill people because I am drunk with power.

That's not even close to relatable.

The Catalyst's existence is not proof of anything. Again, making assumptions.
Hitler genuinely thought his agenda was the right way to do thinks too. He was a madman, but it's what he thought. You have no proof that the Catalyst is right. None.

[Bigdoser]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Bigdoser wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Bigdoser wrote...

Shepard should of done what isaac did at the end of dead space 2. Dead space 2 spoilers. 

www.youtube.com/watch

**** YES:O

I know hence why isaac is now in my book of awesome main characters. Villain tells isaac the plot twist 

Isaac:**** YOU AND **** YOUR MARKER *proceedes to blast villain with gun*

Amen to that. I mean he's already pretty badass in his own universe where, as a lowly engineer, took out a ship and station full of bad zombies single-handedly, he then proceeds to deliver a massive middle finger to the plot device and destroys it.

Now compare this to Shepard in ME3. Shepard has the entire galaxy (more or less) fighting along side him, yet when presented by the easiest (and most disgusting) ways out, he folds and takes the Catalyst up the rear and drinks the Kool-Aid.

Issac Clarke >>> ME3 Shepard

Yup hence why I will never get rid  of my dead space games. 

[The Revolut]

The Angry One wrote...

This. This is what Mass Effect has become.
Mass Effect has become something where people can sit there and try to justify torture, murder, mutilation and genocide for an appeal to probability.

And people say not to take this seriously. This was a world I LOVED, turned into a promotion for *war crimes*.
I'm about to cry.

It's a troll thread, dear.

You can't take this thread seriously.

[jpraelster93]

Already requested a close

[DirtySHISN0]

Shepard has been doing what i tell her to for 3 games.

[Razerath]

J.Random wrote...

Razerath wrote...
The only way to stop organics from making the mistake again is Synthesis. What would a Reaper Overlord have to gain from that and what would organics have to lose?

The EVOLUTION. You don't understand, do you? Synthesis is stagnation, just like "preserving" in a reaper form. No more diversity, no more development. End of the line for everyone.

There wouldn't be a need for further development with Synthesis, obviously. With that said, at a certain point in the future all the energyl in all the universe will transfer into more inert energy and all the stars will die out. Along with organic life. If something like the big crunch doesn't happen, Synthesis would be the only way to survive the end of chaos.

[Ticonderoga117]

Razerath wrote...
I hardly can take you seriously as it is, why try and derail this into something that cannot be compared?

Catalyst: A being that exists as proof that we will create something that can destroy us and is saying he is only doing it so that some point in the future an organic can come along and help stop.

Hitler: Kill people because I am drunk with power.

That's not even close to relatable.

And who made him the galactic crystal ball? The two cycles we know about were doing alright against synthetics. In our cycle, synthetics WANTED TO BE LEFT ALONE. Thus, we scrap his "It's always going to happen" arguement.