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liggy002 wrote...

Here's an even bigger question:  how are they going to extend the breath scene without confirming or denying the IT?

Because you can't "deny" it (it's unfalsifiable by design), and all they have to do to not confirm it is simply disregard it.

They won't come out and say "Shepard isn't indoctrinated". They'll show you the epilogue.

Whatever you choose to make of it is your own business.

(Assuming they do expand on Shepard surviving in any meaningful way, of course.)

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Taboo-XX wrote...

No one paid attention to the EMS announcement?

Do you people think it was for SYNTHESIS?


it is their 'best' ending.

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Ahhhhhh....The Division Bell.

The fix is so simple it's not even funny. They can validate ALL the choices, keep Shepard alive and win things back.

As long as you can ride into the sunset with space wife, you'll be okay.

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Shepard only survives in destroy it better stay that way

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No, Merizan said reuniting with squaddies is in the cards. I hear she's fabricated some things, but I think she'd be crazy to tell us that without it being possible.

She also said EDI and the geth can survive destroy.

WHOOPS.

Jessica's statements prior to actually seeing the extended cut were all fan-fiction. They may turn out to be right in the extended cut, but not because she actually knew what she was talking about.

In her mind, it has always been possible for Shepard to reunite with the squad and his/her partner. I'm guessing for a lot of people that's not good enough, however, or else we probably wouldn't be here.

Modifié par devSin, 24 juin 2012 - 11:08 .


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Shepard wakes up and then marvels to himself about how lucky he was to survive the explosion and fall to earth from space due to a miracle that he explains and then he sits down and thinks about all the choices he made,

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Apocaleepse360 wrote...

My guess: It'll be the same breath scene, followed by "TO BE CONTINUED IN MASS EFFECT 4"


I would be so happy!
ME is awesome and more would be great!  Shepard needs to go out on a high note!

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Taboo-XX wrote...

They'll do it because it's the easiest way to shut people up. You'll shut up if you get to see Tali again. Don't lie to me.



Add a "happy ending" would be the easiest way to shut people up yes. But I'm not so sure they'll do it.

But I am very curious on how they will adress the breath scene in the EC. Leave it as it is or expand?
One thing is for sure. It will take lots of explaining to have it make sense and feel even plausible.

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twi323 wrote...

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

My guess: It'll be the same breath scene, followed by "TO BE CONTINUED IN MASS EFFECT 4"


I would be so happy!
ME is awesome and more would be great!  Shepard needs to go out on a high note!


HELL NO ME3 was supposed to be it if there is a ME4 its because ea is greedy and cant let a series have a good ending and move on to something else which is why me3 was rushed so they could continue the saga

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Patrick Weekes addressed the matter on Twitter.

THEY ADDRESSED THE EMS.

Please put two and two together people.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Patrick Weekes addressed the matter on Twitter.

THEY ADDRESSED THE EMS.

Please put two and two together people.


= they don't want to force people in to multiplayer to get all possible endings?

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twi323 wrote...

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

My guess: It'll be the same breath scene, followed by "TO BE CONTINUED IN MASS EFFECT 4"


I would be so happy!
ME is awesome and more would be great!  Shepard needs to go out on a high note!

Hell no. If Bioware want to make Mass Effect EA's cash cow, then they can go to hell. Shepard's story should have ended at 3. I don't mind having prequels or even indirect sequels (sort of like how 343 Industries made Halo 4), but the Reaper war has to end in this game.

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That's exactly what it means.

Think about it. The simplest answer is almost always the correct one. Do you think they addressed the EMS issue for Synthesis or Control?

Or do you think it was Destroy, the one with the highest requirements?

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

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 Alright basically is Shepard gonna live after that scene or something stupid  like Shepard burst into flames okay exagrating  but you get what I mean anyone care to guess or have info or something.


Here's an even bigger question:  how are they going to extend the breath scene without confirming or denying the IT?


This question really deserves it's own thread imo.



It already does have multiple threads on this topic in the last 24 hours.....they just got buried...

I cant wait to see how they explain Shepard's survival, without IT....because if thats the case he's either floating off in space alone. Or he survived falling to Earth from orbit, re-entry, and impact with Earth, whilst on gigantic super structure.....


Yup....less than 48 hours and we'll have "clarification"

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jpraelster93 wrote...

twi323 wrote...

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

My guess: It'll be the same breath scene, followed by "TO BE CONTINUED IN MASS EFFECT 4"


I would be so happy!
ME is awesome and more would be great!  Shepard needs to go out on a high note!


HELL NO ME3 was supposed to be it if there is a ME4 its because ea is greedy and cant let a series have a good ending and move on to something else which is why me3 was rushed so they could continue the saga

They said they would make more but this would end shepards story

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Taboo-XX wrote...

That's exactly what it means.

Think about it. The simplest answer is almost always the correct one. Do you think they addressed the EMS issue for Synthesis or Control?

Or do you think it was Destroy, the one with the highest requirements?



It could also be that they adressed it because forcing people in to muliplayer/apps was a stupid idea to start with :)

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But why does that equate to a "happy" ending in your mind?

They lied about all the ending variations being accessible for ages. We caught them the first week, but it still took over a month to get them to even acknowledge it.

Yes, they fixed it to be in line with all of their statements in the past about the effect the Galaxy at War system would have on the single-player game. And the extended cut has the first round of content fixes, so it's the first opportunity they've had to address it.

Modifié par devSin, 24 juin 2012 - 11:26 .


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anorling wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

That's exactly what it means.

Think about it. The simplest answer is almost always the correct one. Do you think they addressed the EMS issue for Synthesis or Control?

Or do you think it was Destroy, the one with the highest requirements?



It could also be that they adressed it because forcing people in to muliplayer/apps was a stupid idea to start with :)


Occam's Razor says otherwise. Mr. Priestly came and addressed the issue personally. People want Shepard to live. It isn't difficult to understand.

devSin wrote...

But why does that equate to a happy ending in your mind?

They lied about all the ending variations being accessible for ages. We caught them the first week, but it still took over a month to get them to even acknowledge it.

Yes, they fixed it to be in line with all of their statements in the past about the effect the Galaxy at War system would have on the single-player game. And the extended cut has the first round of content fixes, so it's the first opportunity they've had to address it.

 

Because not every hates the endings as much as you. A happy ending is not technically possible, but one where I knew that Shepard and Miranda where together in spite of everything else would make me feel better.

It isn't about fighting the big corporation anymore.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 24 juin 2012 - 11:25 .


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garrusfan1 wrote...

They said they would make more but this would end shepards story

 And I don't mind that. But if they find some excuse to continue the Reaper war in yet another sequel, then I'm done with Mass Effect.

Edit: Major quote mess-up.

Modifié par Apocaleepse360, 24 juin 2012 - 11:35 .


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Taboo-XX wrote...

Because not every hates the endings as much as you. A happy ending is not technically possible, but one where I knew that Shepard and Miranda where together in spite of everything else would make me feel better.

I'm pretty sure now that you really don't know my opinions of the ending.

But that's beside the point. I'm asking why you feel them addressing this issue will lead to your "happy" ending. We know what the fix is regarding, but you seem to have the opinion that it means Shepard lives (which is not a new variation) and will be given treatment in the extended cut.

Or does it not matter to you that it gets any treatment in the extended cut (you just care that it's there)? But that would make me wonder at why you seemed to have previously been fighting so hard to get the ending that you claimed would be necessary for you to be happy (even if you still don't think the ending is good). Shouldn't you still be hoping for the best you can get (an acted reunion)?

Taboo-XX wrote...

It isn't about fighting the big corporation anymore.

What's with being so dismissive? I didn't think I was saying anything offensive to you.

We're not fighting the man. We're not trying to give power back to the people.

They said one thing and failed to deliver on it, and it directly affected our gameplay experience. We asked them to provide what they claimed we would get.

Maybe it's not an issue for you, but I certainly think I've been supportive of your desire to be reunited with Miranda (I'm simply unsure if it will happen), and I've definitely supported those who have needs different from my own for them to be able to enjoy the game.

I don't belittle you or the things you fight for (maybe my lame jokes have given offense; if so, I certainly apologize), so please try to at least accept that for some of us it is important to be able to access all the content we were told we could expect in the way we choose to play, even if you don't respect it. And for us, the fix is most significant in that finally, after three months of trying to simply get them to acknowledge it, they've decided to do something about it (so maybe I'm just not able to see it the way you seem to?).

Modifié par devSin, 24 juin 2012 - 11:43 .


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Almost ten years in the film industry has taught me one thing. People shut up if they are happy. They will always do it.

We already took Mass Effect back. The EC is a concession, one that Bioware will never admit.

They fixed the EMS issue, Patrick Weekes addressed the breath scene on Twitter, it has been clarified that Shepard survives Destroy.

These are facts, not bull**** IT evidence. It isn't difficult to see how easy this will be to fix. The ending cutscenes is personalized. Mine will be different than yours. Miranda is the only variable I care about anymore because I'm so tremendously burned out by this I just don't care anymore. And that's something Bioware can count on to pick me back up with.

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iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

I'm waiting for a polar bear to chase the crew around.


Exit pursued by a bear? I can see it now.

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I don't dispute anything you've said. It's never been a question for me that Shepard survived the destroy ending with high EMS. (Although I do believe the possibility of removing it should have been tempting to them, at least when initially considering what to do.)

I'm just not certain that it's a foregone conclusion that the reunion will happen. That's not something I take away from them finally fixing the EMS issue, which is why I was questioning you on specifics of how you were seeing it.

I agree that it would satisfy a lot of people. But I worry that the art could still get in the way.

Modifié par devSin, 24 juin 2012 - 11:51 .


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Art doesn't matter in this case. They have already compromised. Everyone knows what the issue is. If Walters and Hudson **** it up AGAIN nothing will stop the madness.

They won't take any chances.

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Shepard breathes in

*fart noise*

Cut to black.

The End.