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[Bratt1204]

David Gaider wrote...

tigrina wrote...
Ha. While my inner softy totally falls for a fairy tale ending, it is not that what I was hinting at necessarily. It is the lack of being able to talk about stuff which annoys me the most. Let me have my fight with Alistair before or at least just the two of us at the Landsmeet. It is fine if he totally disagrees with me, or wants to dump me or whatever, but give me the option to talk about it (note: not *change*, just talk!). Let me at least see *why* he does what he does, that is fine by me. The string of events without the ability to talk with him or any other of your little party for that matter, that is what is frustrating me the most.

I've seen this brought up a few times before. I don't know if the problem here is one of expectation -- I suppose it's flattering that someone doing the Alistair romance expects that the game should turn into the equivalent of a novel centered on it, but the truth of the matter is that Alistair is already a huge character and by far the biggest in the game. The variations in his development even without the romance were already large. At some point it really does have to be recognized that it's a game and such content is limited -- without making the game entirely about this one single romance I don't think we can provide the kind of involvement that some of the fans seem to expect.

In fact, I'm starting to think that maybe the expectation is the problem. Building up the idea that you can talk to a party member at any time, about almost anything, seems to suddenly give rise to "well why couldn't I talk to them about this? Or this? Or this other thing?" It might be worth considering having romances smaller and leaving more to the imagination -- or building a story entirely around the idea of a single romance. Though I don't think the latter is going to happen anytime soon -- still, listening to people compare said romance to the idea that it *should* have been like that and thus finding it lacking is a bit disconcerting.

Not a bad idea at all.

[BlueMew]

Yes, I think it IS a bad idea. Why? Because there always be more people who dislike the romance than people who dislike the main storyline of a game. And you can always use your own fantasy if you feel something is lacking.



Oh, and as much as I like Cpt. Reynolds, Alistair > Mal. There.

[CalJones]

I don't know why this thread was unearthed but it was an entertaining read.

A game based around a single romance would attract a fairly small percentage of the gaming population, and satisfy an even smaller percentage. (I remember being excited that BGII had romances, then utterly disappointed when I found the female love interest was Anomen). Alistair is a big improvement on Anomen but he's not going to be to everyone's taste. Same goes for any romance interest in any game.

I'm grateful to Bioware for providing love interests (and indeed, a choice), but they shouldn't be the focus of a game - more background colour.

But smaller isn't better either. The romances in NWN2 (which I finally got around to playing over Christmas) were thoroughly unsatifying. I want more out of my potential lover than "Old Owl Well."

[errant_knight]

I read the first few posts, and the last few posts, so I don't know what was posted in between, but I think that if one is comparing Alistair to Mal, it should be Alistair at the end of the game, when Alistair has been through war and hardship as Mal did in his own war.

[Caldarin V]

I can see Xander shining through strongly, and Mal occasionally through the one liners

But Alistair lacks the rough edges of Malcolm Reynolds (which isn't necessarily a bad thing; just makes him different). And because of that, his one liners and monologues don't quite carry the same badassness that Mal pulls off every time he opens his mouth.

In truth, Alistair reminds me more of Wash (who I whole heartedly love and damn near cried manly tears at the end of Serenity...)- goofy one liners and prefers to follow orders. Heart in the right place, but not always seeing the bigger picture.
plus, you know any romance with Alistair is gonna be like Wash and Zoe in the bedroom

Modifié par Caldarin V, 13 avril 2010 - 09:26 .