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[GreenDragon37]

C9316 wrote...

I'll be moving onto Halo 4, and checking on DAIII since it's Bioware's last chance for me...

I'm doing half of that. I'm moving on completely to Halo 4, but DAIII isn't even on my radar. ME3 was their last chance. They ****ed that up, so... 

[iSpider-Man]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

C9316 wrote...

I'll be moving onto Halo 4, and checking on DAIII since it's Bioware's last chance for me...

I'm doing half of that. I'm moving on completely to Halo 4, but DAIII isn't even on my radar. ME3 was their last chance. They ****ed that up, so... 

but they [BioWare] said your choices will have a huge impact in your game in Dragon Age 3.

[steeltrainn]

iSpider-Man wrote...
but they [BioWare] said your choices will have a huge impact in your game in Dragon Age 3.

Like the choice to kill Leliana or not in the first Dragon Age right?....Right?...

[GreenDragon37]

iSpider-Man wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

C9316 wrote...

I'll be moving onto Halo 4, and checking on DAIII since it's Bioware's last chance for me...

I'm doing half of that. I'm moving on completely to Halo 4, but DAIII isn't even on my radar. ME3 was their last chance. They ****ed that up, so... 

but they [BioWare] said your choices will have a huge impact in your game in Dragon Age 3.

You mean like in DA2 and ME3? I'll pass. 

[Dan Dark]

Well, the EC will probably meet my expectations perfectly... unfortunately, after having listened to the podcast, those expectations involve me being so pissed off and disillusioned after experiencing it that I decide to find out what happens if I chug a whole bottle of vodka.

But, after that, if the EC does not manage to even marginally exceed my expectations... I'm done. Goodbye BioWare, it's been fun, but you're dead to me now.

[Blind2Society]

Which it most certainly will, and my expectations are extremely low.

Assassin's Creed 3 and Resident Evil Anthology are on their way. Bye bye BioWare/EA.

Until then, I play some ME3 MP here and there along with other games. Eventually I will have to get Dead Space 3 but that will certainly be a low price used copy and I couldn't give less of a crap about DS MP.

Modifié par Blind2Society, 25 juin 2012 - 02:53 .

[Kesak12]

Edington wrote...

sydranark wrote...

ericjdev wrote...

It already has failed to meet my expectations.

+1

Fans: Change the ending
BioW: What? Your tiny mind probably didn't understand it. How about we tell it to you again a bit slower?
Fans: No, just change it.
BioW: I'll re-iterate it.
Fans: Change it!!!
BioW: Space magic.

WOW this is exactly how it played out....

[capn233]

Mine aren't too high. Since it is simply "clarifying" what we have, I can't expect any plot elements to be all that different.

Guess I will see. It's nicer this way because high expectations are more likely to lead to disappointment.

[KappaOmicron]

If EC doesn't make me think less of ME3's current ending and makes me content with it all, then I'll never buy a ME game on it's release date at full price again. I'll wait for it to drop at price after a year or two. I'll get DA3 still however.

I've been playing ME since it's release several years ago and to me, ME3 didn't feel like it gave the hardcore fans who've stuck with the series since the beginning justice. They never should of tried to bring in more people and just should of stuck to PC and Xbox 360 and AFTER making a perfect trilogy with all our choices actually mattering in the end, port it to other consoles. I think that took a lot of time and resources from Bioware that could have been better spent to be honest.

[Eterna]

I don't expect much, it's only like 10 minutes worth of cutscenes.

If it fails I won't really care as I enjoyed ME3 regardless of the ending.

[Games Devourer]

Bioware will join Crapcom and Activision in my black list. No more Bioware games for me...

[Heimdal]

I just hope they mash toghether all the Gamer Poop: Mass Effect cutscenes and present them as EC. Most fun I've had with ME3.

[Sytharin]

chemiclord wrote...

Sytharin wrote...

Look up the definition of "more".

I don't care.  You want a special ending that will contradict what was already established.

It's not as simple as saying, "I want my golden ending, you don't have to take it!"  A happy ending inherently becomes the "right" ending.  In much the same way that getting everyone out alive in the suicide mission was the "right" ending.  If you didn't do it that way, what was wrong with you?

Same deal here.  Bioware didn't want a "right" ending.  You did.  Why should they do a 180, and tell others who had no problem with the conundrum, "Yeah, we're gonna ****** all over you and make all your endings invalid to give this guy an ending where he gets everything he wants."

The flaw in your logic starts with something being established. Nothing. I repeat, NOTHING was ever meant te be established. It was OUR story. What you fail to understand is by establishing a set ending, you have destroyed Mass Effect, but since you got what you wanted, you're fine with that.

Talk to the people that have Idiot Shepard games, or the ones that have Chaotic playthroughs, or the ones that killed off their love intrest, etc.

Nothing is established. You are what is wrong with this game and this community, your stale, stagnate, and quite simply foolish view has completely done away with anything Bioware originally set out to do.

Gratz on that

[chemiclord]

Actually, no, it WASN'T "our story."

Yes. Bioware lied to you when they said it was. But in NEVER WAS YOUR STORY.

It was always theirs. As much as you hate it, as much as you cover your ears and pretend it's not true, it is.

Idiots like you are why the term "entitled" has become an insult.  I wish I could argue your logic, but sadly, you don't have any to refute.  I am looking forward to drinking your bitter tears when you get the nothing you deserve.

Modifié par chemiclord, 25 juin 2012 - 04:03 .

[Ilzairspar]

Bigdoser wrote...

Pack my bags and head over to the bethesda forums.

I'll be joining you.  I'm still a bit behind on their games though (Still working on Fallout: NV)

I might treet Bioware games like I treat Bethsda though... wait fro the GOTY ultimate edition and buy if it got great reviews...maybe.

[Kortenx12]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

C9316 wrote...

I'll be moving onto Halo 4, and checking on DAIII since it's Bioware's last chance for me...

I'm doing half of that. I'm moving on completely to Halo 4, but DAIII isn't even on my radar. ME3 was their last chance. They ****ed that up, so... 

Halo 4 party?

[Sytharin]

chemiclord wrote...

Actually, no, it WASN'T "our story."

Yes. Bioware lied to you when they said it was. But in NEVER WAS YOUR STORY.

It was always theirs. As much as you hate it, as much as you cover your ears and pretend it's not true, it is.

Idiots like you are why the term "entitled" has become an insult.  I wish I could argue your logic, but sadly, you don't have any to refute.  I am looking forward to drinking your bitter tears when you get the nothing you deserve.

And people like you are why coming to this board is still entertaining, so thank you for that at least.

In other news, you are now, of your own volition, defending a company that you believe lies to its customers. I would accuse you of being paid due to how diligent you seem to be, but I'm sure if you were being paid, you would actually use arguments and debates rather than just insults. It was our story, they worked to make it so. I could chose between many different senarios, which is what made 1 and 2 fantastic games, and what made 3 so radically short-coming.

I am actually not covering my ears, I'm listening loud and clear. To you, to Bioware, to the podcast. Thank you for shouting and screaming out at me that everything I knew was a lie, we played you for a fool, took your money, and left you while counting our coins. That message is blaring across all venues.

And their stock prices are showing the result.

Enjoy your sinking ship and your ending; you earned it.

Modifié par Sytharin, 25 juin 2012 - 04:24 .

[sydranark]

chemiclord wrote...

To call Bioware's response "bitter and angry" would require there have been much of a response AT ALL(1).  *snip*

*more snip* I think they're perfectly aware that fans find it lacking... but believe the numbers that are steadfastly adamant that it MUST change are a minority.  Whether that is true or not, I can't say (2).

And yes, from the responses I saw here, "clarity", "closure", and "explanation" were some of the only consistent things among the responses.  The rest were either:
1) A complete scrap and rewrite of the ending (which was never going to happen). (3)
*snipped garbage about feathers*

Bioware's biggest mistake was when they declared Mass Effect was "our story" way back during the ME1 days (4)

Think on this; it's bad enough that the game itself was creating millions of permutations. (5)

*snipped rest*

1) Subtle back-handed insults are insults nonetheless. I don't know where you've been for the last few months but we've recieved plenty of them in various interviews, twitter, etc. They did keep their mouths shut about the content of this EC, but that has nothing to do with their negative reactions. 

 2) Not sure if you heard the podcast or not, but it seems like they think we only wanted a happy ending =/. Or that we wanted the series to continue. That wasn't the point of this retake movement. If shep dies, shep dies. But there are several lore-breaking events that happen in the clusterf*ck that is the last 10 minutes of the game. These should be retconned out of the game: i.e. changed. 

3) Refer to latter part of #2. Things get removed. Or added. It happens. Especially when it makes absolutely no sense and contradicts the lore. Granted, it would be impossible to change the whole damn ending, but there are certain things that could be added or deleted to make sense of... whatever the hell happened. 

3a) On that note: why the hell not have a little blue babies option? They could still end the series. Force Shep to retire, live a life of peace after these events, maybe make a cameo or two in the new Mass Effect spin-off games, depending on the game-save. It's perfectly plausible. Not entirely necessary, but doable. 

4) Yes, I agree with you. But guess what? They did. And until the last 10 minutes of the game, they did a pretty good job at sticking to their word. We bought this game with the intention of being able to take control of Shep's life. It was advertised and we expected it.

5) Regardless of the number of permutations, we don't even have three distinctive endings. We have two. One is earth gets incinerated. The other is the exact same sequence, only in 3 different color filters. Nothing we did in the game shows up in any cutscene or even has anything to do with the actual ending. On top of that, we have a bunch of random scenes that don't make sense AT ALL. As if we're supposed to headcannon the remainder of the story based on the garbage that represents either IT or poor writing. 

Modifié par sydranark, 25 juin 2012 - 04:25 .

[Mass afflicted]

I don't hate bioware. I think the mass effect series was the most elaborate and well structured game I ever played, and I loved it......... Until the ending of course. I have to imagine that some parties involved in the development disagree with the ending as well. It has to be like building a beautiful high-rise on a sinkhole or putting a Ferrari on daiwoo wheels and tires. The art work comes through in the body and design but needs a solid platform in order to be displayed correctly. The end should have been that base. It needed to be very strong to support the amount detail. It saddens me, I don't think a crutch is what the game deserves. Just give me a trailer for ME4. Sorry if this post is in the wrong thread or pisses everyone off

[Jason Ralph]

It doesn't really matter if I like the EC or not. I decided awhile back that ME3 is my last game in this universe, and it has nothing to do with the ending.
While I enjoyed the MP part a lot, it just reminded me why this is one of 5 games with MP I have played this gen: I don't want to play with some of the people you come across on Xbox Live or PSN. It's nothing against BioWare, I'd just rather skip it. Add on ME3 wraps up Shepard's story, it's a fine place for me to exit this universe.

[LittleGlassVial]

If EC fails then I'll move on from Mass Effect (No future games, DLC, etc.) and if Bioware screws up Dragon Age 3 then I'll wipe Bioware from my mind.

I'll still try Dragon Age 3 because I loved Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age 2 and as bad as this whole Mass Effect 3 ending mess is it doesn't effect my love for the Dragon Age series.

[robarcool]

JL81 wrote...

Slappy Ya Face wrote...

If it fails I walk away from this company and never look back. If they can't write a proper ending for their flagship franchise, they don't deserve my money ever again.

+1

Saw you supporting the quoted post and then saw your profile pic. I just loled. It's like Geralt laughing in their face.

Modifié par robarcool, 25 juin 2012 - 04:38 .

[LateNightSalami]

Khan317 wrote...

Bioware first let me down with the ending of KOTOR 2. I felt robbed of all the hours I spent on the game for a generic ending that didn't answer any questions whether you played good, evil, or inbetween. Mass Effect 1&2 had me going with hope that bioware got there act together. However, as history has taught me with bioware, they proved that they know how to ruin an ending. My doubts further grew with the disappointment of DA2 before ME3. At this point, I will not buy DA3 because on initial release. I would probably wait until there is enough discussion about how the story and gameplay were in DA3. Bioware stating that they will not change the ending, but provide more info is okay with me because that was my biggest issue that I had no clue what happened with my choices and it seemed to not matter are/might be answered. HOWEVER, because of the inconsistencies about the Mass relays, Shepard, synthetic/reapers/child i will probably never purchase full-price for another bioware game unless it's used or given as a gift. Ultimately, they lost a customer who has been let down by Bioware with KOTOR 2 and feared that one day, they would do it again... and they did.

I'll jump ship and look at Watch Dogs, Tomb Raider and anything else from Bethesda

WHOA...I haven't seen a fail this epic in a long time (old meme I know)....Brah...Bioware did not make Kotor 2...Obsidian did and the ending was entirely not their fault at all as teh dev process got super rushed.

[erc1971]

Slappy Ya Face wrote...

If it fails I walk away from this company and never look back. If they can't write a proper ending for their flagship franchise, they don't deserve my money ever again.

My thoughts exactly.

Eric

[Menalaos1971]

If EC fails then I'm done with Bioware.  I consider the bastardization of DA2 over DAO to be their first black mark in my book.  Ruining two series means Bioware is dead to me as a game developer.