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Why are there no Half Elves? (and 9 other things I don't get)


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T-Kay wrote...

Lemme anser in detail...

1. Why are there no half elves? Given that the humans...well, you'd think they'd be there somewhere, right?
- Yea, this is a plothole right there. Coming from the creators of BG and such its definitely "odd".

What does BG have to do with anything? D&D also had Tyr, is it odd that the Maker doesn't come down and smite the Archdemon? Or that the priests don't have magic?

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This topic looks oddly familiar.

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1. Because Human mating with Elve = Human all the time in Dragon age.There's no such thing has *Half Elve*

2. Because they wasted their resource on other aspect of the game

3. Ask Her

4. Seriously i don't know.I was excited to get my wade dragon armor .. and it's basicly the same looking armor of every damn other leather model.I don't buy the whole * no time* . But it's something bioware have done in every damn game.In NWN and Mass Effect ... Armor look boring and basily the same thing with different color.

5. Dragon Age won't win an award for armor design.

6. Ask God.

7. Because education mean you have to talk like having  a wooden stick stuck on your arse?

8. Bug.

9. lol .. i wondered that also ..Just like if you save tons of Gift you can raise someone approval Zero to 90 under 4 sec.They overdid the gift thing imo .. Because it's make it far too much easier to befriend someone.

10. lol ... Probably because they though we would need supplies to fight the last monster of the game ..Making sure we defeat it.

Modifié par Suprez30, 15 décembre 2009 - 12:15 .


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Do not compare WoW armor models with a single player game. Wow has some of the worst graphics on the market, and most of its skins are incredibly easy to lay over. When WoW went live, it didn't have that many armor or weapon mdoels. Everything you saw was patched and added over time. Infact, they are the worst MMO with releasing very little in expansions and patching what you paid for up front over the next year.

A single player game which has no infinite deadline and far better graphics than just cartoon skins, would obviously take more time.

As for using proper English, who gives a damn. I have multiple degrees and I means very little too me unless its an official form. My mother taught English for years and corrected me every 5 seconds. This builds a great disdain for proper use of any language. Go learn a foreign language properly and see how much use it is upon visiting said countries.

Modifié par Drunkencelt, 15 décembre 2009 - 12:59 .


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Just to weigh in on #7... In English, at least, the idea of standardised spelling and grammar has only been around for the last few generations of speakers. Any English speaker before then, no matter how educated, would probably use at least some 'incorrect' spelling and grammar, because the rules had yet to be formalised.



Also, Alistair shunned his royal upbringing in more ways than just that. He's never one for pomp and circumstance, keeps a very informal attitude, etc.

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Dark83 wrote...

T-Kay wrote...

Lemme anser in detail...

1. Why are there no half elves? Given that the humans...well, you'd think they'd be there somewhere, right?
- Yea, this is a plothole right there. Coming from the creators of BG and such its definitely "odd".

What does BG have to do with anything? D&D also had Tyr, is it odd that the Maker doesn't come down and smite the Archdemon? Or that the priests don't have magic?

BG has nothing to do with it being odd that there are no half elves. Half elves are a rational and logical product of a human and elf mating. I just mentioned BG, because at some point they used this logic.

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Can somone point me to where David Gaiman stated Human+Elf=Human please?

Since so many state is as common fact but noone says where the fact is found...

And I like getting my facts straight from the horses' mouth, and not via 38 people in a chain... Talk about hearsay! Phew!




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Baalzie wrote...

Can somone point me to where David Gaiman stated Human+Elf=Human please?
Since so many state is as common fact but noone says where the fact is found...
And I like getting my facts straight from the horses' mouth, and not via 38 people in a chain... Talk about hearsay! Phew!

It's in the codex.  Elves are "genetically adaptable."

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From the Codex:



Elves in Ferelden are not immortal, but elven legends state that this was not always the case. Once, they say, they were immortal beings who lived in harmony with the natural world and followed the elven pantheon. The first "shem" (short for shemlen, a term meaning "quick children" that was used by the ancient elves to describe the humans) they encountered were the mages of the Tevinter Imperium. They traded with the Imperium and grew friendly with humans, but soon discovered that breeding with humans produced only human babies, due to the elves' genetic adaptability, while exposure to the ‘quick children’ caused the elves to quicken themselves. For the first time, elves began to age and die.

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7. Real people don't talk perfectly or care when people don't. Only whiny English majors do.


I resent that. I was raised to speak properly and I am not an English major or whiny, and neither are the people by whom I was raised English majors (with the possible exception of my mother, who is in fact a journalist).

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andysdead wrote...

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7. Real people don't talk perfectly or care when people don't. Only whiny English majors do.


I resent that. I was raised to speak properly and I am not an English major or whiny, and neither are the people by whom I was raised English majors (with the possible exception of my mother, who is in fact a journalist).

And yet, that sentence would be torn apart by an English professor.

:police:

Just goes to show the point - even if you are raised to speak English properly, real people don't speak perfect English.  Even whiny English majors don't.

Modifié par The Capital Gaultier, 16 décembre 2009 - 04:45 .


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T-Kay wrote...
12. How are the caves lighted? How are the deep roads lighted? There are no fires aside from the odd torch you come across, yet it's as bright as a frikking bonfire. This is really stupid. The deep roads should be covered in darkness with you holding a lamp to light your way.


One word: lyrium.

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The majority of the questions, I am not going to bother with an answer, but number 10. Maybe, just maybe, Sandal is the next archdemon, trapped in the body of a Lirium-fetal syndrome dwarf baby, and is waiting to rip the head off of people who continue to ask the same questions all the time..

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Duh, don't you people read the codex? or the loadscreens? or at least search the forum to see if your question has been answered before?

Jeez, where the LIGHT is coming from in the caves? Same place from which the music comes!

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The Capital Gaultier wrote...

andysdead wrote...

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7. Real people don't talk perfectly or care when people don't. Only whiny English majors do.


I resent that. I was raised to speak properly and I am not an English major or whiny, and neither are the people by whom I was raised English majors (with the possible exception of my mother, who is in fact a journalist).

And yet, that sentence would be torn apart by an English professor.

:police:

Just goes to show the point - even if you are raised to speak English properly, real people don't speak perfect English.  Even whiny English majors don't.


Incorrect. That sentence is grammatically perfect.

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Drunkencelt wrote...
Go learn a foreign language properly and see how much use it is upon visiting said countries.

Absolutely none.  People will look at you like you're crazy, ask what you're trying to say, and walk away as if you had just escaped a looney bin.  I know this because a family friend married a German lady, learned "proper" German, and insisted on doing the talking instead of his wife.  It ended up being VERY entertaining.  The locals would look at him... look at his wife... and the wife would chuckle and translate his "German" for them.  So... if you learn a foreign language, make sure it's someone that actually grew up speaking said language, or you'll probably just end up embarassing yourself.

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Inzhuna wrote...

Duh, don't you people read the codex? or the loadscreens? or at least search the forum to see if your question has been answered before?
Jeez, where the LIGHT is coming from in the caves? Same place from which the music comes!


from my turtle beach headphones? couldn't resist. heheheh

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andysdead wrote...

The Capital Gaultier wrote...

andysdead wrote...

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7. Real people don't talk perfectly or care when people don't. Only whiny English majors do.


I resent that. I was raised to speak properly and I am not an English major or whiny, and neither are the people by whom I was raised English majors (with the possible exception of my mother, who is in fact a journalist).

And yet, that sentence would be torn apart by an English professor.

:police:

Just goes to show the point - even if you are raised to speak English properly, real people don't speak perfect English.  Even whiny English majors don't.


Incorrect. That sentence is grammatically perfect.

Sorry, but it's not.  I'm not being an ass, but it isn't.

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andysdead

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The Capital Gaultier wrote...

andysdead wrote...

The Capital Gaultier wrote...

andysdead wrote...

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7. Real people don't talk perfectly or care when people don't. Only whiny English majors do.


I resent that. I was raised to speak properly and I am not an English major or whiny, and neither are the people by whom I was raised English majors (with the possible exception of my mother, who is in fact a journalist).

And yet, that sentence would be torn apart by an English professor.

:police:

Just goes to show the point - even if you are raised to speak English properly, real people don't speak perfect English.  Even whiny English majors don't.


Incorrect. That sentence is grammatically perfect.

Sorry, but it's not.  I'm not being an ass, but it isn't.


Nope. Look it up. When was the last time you looked at your Bedford Handbook? I can say with a large degree of certainty that I am more of an expert on this topic than you. Refute my claim if you wish, but don't come in here without hard, documented evidence or I will shoot you down.

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andysdead wrote...

The Capital Gaultier wrote...

andysdead wrote...

The Capital Gaultier wrote...

andysdead wrote...

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7. Real people don't talk perfectly or care when people don't. Only whiny English majors do.


I resent that. I was raised to speak properly and I am not an English major or whiny, and neither are the people by whom I was raised English majors (with the possible exception of my mother, who is in fact a journalist).

And yet, that sentence would be torn apart by an English professor.

:police:

Just goes to show the point - even if you are raised to speak English properly, real people don't speak perfect English.  Even whiny English majors don't.


Incorrect. That sentence is grammatically perfect.

Sorry, but it's not.  I'm not being an ass, but it isn't.


Nope. Look it up. When was the last time you looked at your Bedford Handbook? I can say with a large degree of certainty that I am more of an expert on this topic than you. Refute my claim if you wish, but don't come in here without hard, documented evidence or I will shoot you down.

Go for it brah, I'm not in this to prove anything.

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The Capital Gaultier wrote...

andysdead wrote...

The Capital Gaultier wrote...

andysdead wrote...

The Capital Gaultier wrote...

andysdead wrote...

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7. Real people don't talk perfectly or care when people don't. Only whiny English majors do.


I resent that. I was raised to speak properly and I am not an English major or whiny, and neither are the people by whom I was raised English majors (with the possible exception of my mother, who is in fact a journalist).

And yet, that sentence would be torn apart by an English professor.

:police:

Just goes to show the point - even if you are raised to speak English properly, real people don't speak perfect English.  Even whiny English majors don't.


Incorrect. That sentence is grammatically perfect.

Sorry, but it's not.  I'm not being an ass, but it isn't.


Nope. Look it up. When was the last time you looked at your Bedford Handbook? I can say with a large degree of certainty that I am more of an expert on this topic than you. Refute my claim if you wish, but don't come in here without hard, documented evidence or I will shoot you down.

Go for it brah, I'm not in this to prove anything.


Clearly not.

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I apologise if these are already answered but the answers I read didn't seem to answer the question satisfactorily. (spelling)

sagequeen wrote...

K, just finished first playthrough and ended with several questions. I don't get:

1. Why are there no half elves? Given that the humans...well, you'd think they'd be there somewhere, right?

2. Are Ferelden arrows tipped with homing devices? Have you seen the way those things come after you when you're strafing?

3. Why is the nurse at Ostagar wearing a pink party dress? Is this what nurses wear on the front lines?

4. Why did I pay 89 gold for a new suit of armor (Felon's Coat) only for it to look EXACTLY like the crappy armor I'd started with? (Memories of Everquest come to mind).

5. Why does all my armor include a dog collar and gold-plated nipples?

6. What is going on in the Elven Orphanage such that the elves turn into humans when they die? (Look at the spirits! They have rounded ears!)

7. How come Alistair has such lousy grammar for growing up with an Arl and then in the chantry? ("The babe didn't die, I am him." Not him! HE - I am HE! Subject, not object...Gah.)

8. Why does Oghren's helmet keep popping on and off when I talk to him? Is this part of his being drunk? (kidding) 

9. How is it that the moment a new person joins our party they suddenly are privy to all the delicate inter-personal relationships of all the members who have been there since the beginning?

10. What the HE** is Sandal doing Fort Drakon at end game? I truly found him to be more frightening sitting there with those big, wide eyes than the freakin' broodmother.


1 - As is said in many places, elfs bred with humans breed humans. That's why elves don't want to breed with humans.

2 - The hit/miss is determined by your stats, not how you move. The arrow has to be shown hitting you, and it's probably programed to home in. We could probably have had a realistic collision system, but that would make the game harder. (Also, hard to program.)

3 - Low amount of clothing models means some get used in funny ways. Someone else take this one.

4 - Same as above, sort of. Story was the major focus, not unique armor models. We could wait for some kind community modders to give us some new models though...

5 - Don't ask me about the second part, but the "dog collar" is used to put the head model and the armor together without looking weird. Some clothing looks funny, but it could have been worse.

6 - Maybe the ghosts can't have knife-ears in the engine (unlikely.) Probably an oversight.

7 - Screw grammar. I ain't gonna speak good all th' time.

8 - Most cutscenes remove the helmets of all player characters to show lip-synch and such. Beards and hair disappear to avoid funny looks with the helmets on.

9 - Easier to code. If a timer had to be set, or a conversation played before the new members knew the gossip, then we'd have to implement a timer or write more (minor) dialogue.

10 - Sandal is freaking hardcore. (Stole that from someone.) Mostly, it seemed like an excuse to have a merchant before the final battle. And most people like Sandal better than the nameless jerk in Lothering. (Besides, Sandal looks like he could take down the Archdemon himself, with all the corpses.)

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lol this thread has been answered so many times so far its a wonder people are still posting in it

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"Incorrect. That sentence is grammatically perfect."

"Sorry, but it's not.  I'm not being an ass, but it isn't."

There are some stylistic improvements that could be made, and you'd get that edited if you were to put it in an essay or a book, but there are no major grammatical errors for which you'd be 'torn apart'. And for everyday life speech or forum posting it is perfect.

Modifié par Inzhuna, 16 décembre 2009 - 05:06 .


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geez, it looks like some people lost the humor of the OP.