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[devSin]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

What is this a quote from?

It's last-minute terror. All stuff that's been floating around here.

Although cutting out old sweet tooth is news to me. I hadn't heard any hemming or hawing about that yet.

petipas4141 wrote...

This has been tweeted by Jessica Merizan... that a reunion with Normandy/LI is completely possible.

She also said that EDI and the geth could survive destroy.

In other words, the prior statements were all fan-fiction. From her perspective, it's always been possible for Shepard to reunite with them, so of course she said it would be possible in the extended cut.

For most of the people in this thread, however, I do not think that a head-canon reunion will be sufficient, meaning Jessica's prior statements are useless.

Modifié par devSin, 25 juin 2012 - 06:05 .

[petipas4141]

devSin wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

What is this a quote from?

It's last-minute terror. All stuff that's been floating around here.

Although cutting out old sweet tooth is news to me. I hadn't heard any hemming or hawing about that yet.

petipas4141 wrote...

This has been tweeted by Jessica Merizan... that a reunion with Normandy/LI is completely possible.

She also said that EDI and the geth could survive destroy.

In other words, the prior statements were all fan-fiction. From her perspective, it's always been possible for Shepard to reunite with them, so of course she said it would be possible in the extended cut.

For most of the people in this thread, however, I do not think that a head-canon reunion will be sufficient, meaning Jessica's prior statements are useless.

I understand your apprehension but I tweeted at her the same day the extended cut was announced

[iHorizons]

All I know is that better be able to be reunited with Ashley.

[DeadpoolBub]

I just want to see Shepard & Tali reunited...with Garrus there to make some sarcastic remark.

[RADIUMEYEZ]

DeadpoolBub wrote...

I just want to see Shepard & Tali reunited...with Garrus there to make some sarcastic remark.

This!

[WillSheperd_1982]

devSin wrote...

flippedeclipse wrote...

If I find out Garrus ends up getting it on with Tali on jungle planet, I'm going to be so pissed.

They have to breed, so they'll both be taking turns with Liara.

Along with the rest of the crew, and the humans all with each other. Steve and Sam will be forced to breed as well.

Joker too, although hopefully he just dies.

It's a big ol' party and everyone except for us is invited!

Actually, that kind of sums up how I feel about the ME3 ending. Like being locked out of your own journey.

[Old Books]

Yeah, this just ain't going to happen. I would like the option to be there but people seem to be acting under the impression that BioWare have (space)magically 'seen the light.' Listen to Casey et al in the video, it's still all about our inability to let go and the need for closure. The EC is just going to clarify the lunacy of the ending. A bit like those shows that show how illusionists perform their magic tricks. ;-)

[en2ym3]

They -may- try to focus a bit more on what happens to your teammates (closure and clarity), but I don't expect a reunion. Only one ending has Shepard possibly live, and every single ending eliminates all chance of finding anyone too far away via the destruction of Mass Relays. That's assuming you even have functional ships on your planet, since the Normandy apparently is not.

The ending's pretty bitter, and they don't plan on changing it, so I don't expect this.

If they even spent the time to give every individual you knew (or current and past teammates) a quick look, to see what happened to them, I'd be appreciative that Bioware did something, at least. I don't expect I'll ever be happy with the same ending this game came out with, it's got way too many flaws for even the Indoctrination Theory to work. But someone made a good point that completely changing the ending (opposed to adding onto it) may never have been a real option, even if the staff wanted to do it.

Modifié par en2ym3, 25 juin 2012 - 06:59 .

[Kathleen321]

Yeah I think being reunited is the only way for the extended edition to redeem the ending without changing it. But honestly, I'm so upset that it wasn't meant to happen in the first place that I don't know how it will change my feelings about the game. The first time I played I knew Shepard was likely going to die, but I hoped there would be closure for Kaidan. I at least expected him to be there with her (either dieing by her side or holding her in his arms as he said his last goodbye) Maybe that is a little cheesy but I don't think Kaidan would just leave Shepard. None of the love interests would do that. Hence why we all hate the absurdity of the Garden of Eden-jungle nonsense.

[lordofdogtown19]

You think this would be a no brainer but I have a bad feeling it wont happen

[JA Shepard]

I think it's very possible that we will see that the Normandy isn't the only ship on that planet. Since Admiral Hackett ordered the fleet to a rendezvous point, there may be other ships that had already safely landed there. It's the easiest and most logical way to say that the crew isn't stranded forever.

I still don't see myself going with destroy, but I can see a way for there to be a reunion with the crew for those who did, assuming that the breath scene was more than just a throw-in Easter egg to begin with. I have my doubts but, it's not like there is no reasonable explanation for the crash cinematic now.

[knightnblu]

Not a chance

[Total Biscuit]

It's not going to happen.

I doubt we'll get much more than that scene of everyone putting Shepards name up on the memorial and grieving, despite them having no idea what happened to Shepard in any ending, and that's it.

They'll still be trapped on that jungle hellhole for the rest of their lives, no explanation for how Tali or Garrus will avoid starvation will be given, and the very last scene will be the breath one again, with no more explanation or expansion than the Easter egg it currently is.

The ending isn't changing, we're just being told what kind of crap we're having to swallow this time.

[tekkaman fear]

Normandy was knocked out of the relay or ftl by the explosion. It would be highly unlikely that it just happened to knock them out at the rendezvous point.

[en2ym3]

JA Shepard wrote...

I think it's very possible that we will see that the Normandy isn't the only ship on that planet. Since Admiral Hackett ordered the fleet to a rendezvous point, there may be other ships that had already safely landed there. It's the easiest and most logical way to say that the crew isn't stranded forever.

I still don't see myself going with destroy, but I can see a way for there to be a reunion with the crew for those who did, assuming that the breath scene was more than just a throw-in Easter egg to begin with. I have my doubts but, it's not like there is no reasonable explanation for the crash cinematic now.

I could maybe see your first argument - but how do we know that Shepard would live to see the day they return?  Not only are we unaware of what Earth's state is (and if they have any ships, functional technology, food/ability to grow food, a decent population, etc.), but there's no telling just how far away the Normandy (and others, in this hypothetical situation) is.  It may not be possible for them to reach Earth in their own lifetimes (ignoring, maybe, someone like Liara), and I don't know how they'd have enough supplies to make the trek anyhow.

Even if they somehow did make it, it would be a long time later, and I think would somehow not fit the Adam-and-Eve theme quite as much, so I wouldn't expect them to throw that in the extra ten minutes they give us.

But, to be honest, I don't expect them to do something like the idea you suggested.  Based on what they've been saying, I expect we'll get the exact same cutscenes we did originally, just with some additional ones thrown in throughout it.  Which would mean the poor ol' Normandy crew is properly screwed and isolated on that planet.

[Ieldra]

I'm not sure about what to think.

It all depends on how much they want to push their damned neo-Luddite Garden Eden scenario into our faces in all endings. If they compromise on that, we might get a very strong hint that the Normandy isn't lost in all high-EMS endings where Earth is OK. Perhaps they'll even show it explicitly. If so, then a reunion is also possible but I think it's more likely a reunion won't be shown but told in a written epilogue. At least that's what I'd do if I wanted to keep a somber mood in the ending but still give the fans something of what they want.

[itzLWM]

All I want is a LI reunion. Shep his LI embracing, then screen fades to black. Credits.

If that is what happens, I will sing BW's praises. And buy a ****load of PSP's with real money to reward them.

If they have Shep die in all scenarios and there is no way to even headcanon the LI reunion, i'm done with BW.

[itzLWM]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I'm not sure about what to think.

It all depends on how much they want to push their damned neo-Luddite Garden Eden scenario into our faces in all endings. If they compromise on that, we might get a very strong hint that the Normandy isn't lost in all high-EMS endings where Earth is OK. Perhaps they'll even show it explicitly. If so, then a reunion is also possible but I think it's more likely a reunion won't be shown but told in a written epilogue. At least that's what I'd do if I wanted to keep a somber mood in the ending but still give the fans something of what they want.

I completely agree.

I would actually prefer text. Keep the mood, but satisfy us.

[wright1978]

MattFini wrote...

Because of the way the lame endings are, they can't be truly saved in my eyes.

So a Shepard lives and reunites with LI scenario is pretty much the only thing that could satisfy me without them redoing the entire ending.

I'm expecting to find their attempts to justify the appalling ending atrocious. I'm just hoping that the epilogues are kick ass. A key part of that is Shep re-uniting with friends and LI if he/she survives or them mourning if died.

[Merwanor]

I doubt it, I hope I am wrong, but Bioware seems fixed on having their emo ending.

It is like all the horrible things like genocide and rampant murder across the entire galaxy is not sad enough, they just have to make the ending even more depressing, they keep saying they did not expect people to view it like that, but I can't understand how anyone can view the endings any other way. I have tried to look at them positively, but I can't see anything other than a very anti climatic ending.

[Afrolash]

I really hope they don't resort to some campy reunion ending. It would change the entire undertone of the third game. I am of the mindset that it is one way where they could actually make the ending worse by doing this. The Reapers are far to powerful a foe for us to simply defeat them and walk away happily ever after.

[Candidate 88766]

Your squad has been stranded on a random planet somewhere. Shepard is only hinted to be alive in one of the endings, and is either on Earth or the Citadel (there are both Citadel-like materials, and things that look like shelves from the buildings in London, so either option is possible, although neither makes much sense).

So unless you LI was Jack, Jacob, or Miranda, I really don't see how you can possibly assume a Shepard-LI reunion is "all but guaranteed". They aren't changing the endings, and given that one of the screenshots shows Hackett mentioning the fleet falling back to a rendezvous point it seems that the Normandy fleeing and subsequently crashing will remain in the game.

Just seems like you're really setting yourself up for disappointment if you believe this.


I personally don't mind a bleak ending. This was meant to be a war story after all, and given how powerful the Reapers are meant to be any happy victory would, to me, feel really out of place. i do understand why other people want a happy ending though, and while I don't begrudge them that Bioware has said that they won't change the endings. Getting your hopes up over some reunion is just setting yourself up for disappointment. 

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 25 juin 2012 - 12:00 .

[Candidate 88766]

wright1978 wrote...

MattFini wrote...

Because of the way the lame endings are, they can't be truly saved in my eyes.

So a Shepard lives and reunites with LI scenario is pretty much the only thing that could satisfy me without them redoing the entire ending.

I'm expecting to find their attempts to justify the appalling ending atrocious. I'm just hoping that the epilogues are kick ass. A key part of that is Shep re-uniting with friends and LI if he/she survives or them mourning if died.

There's an in-progress screenshot showing the entire squad standing in front of the memorial wall. Given the state of disrepair the Normandy appeared to be in, this is almost certainly after the Normandy has crashed, with the crew mourning Shepard.

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Modifié par Candidate 88766, 25 juin 2012 - 12:03 .

[wright1978]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Your squad has been stranded on a random planet somewhere. Shepard is only hinted to be alive in one of the endings, and is either on Earth or the Citadel (there are both Citadel-like materials, and things that look like shelves from the buildings in London, so either option is possible, although neither makes much sense).

So unless you LI was Jack, Jacob, or Miranda, I really don't see how you can possibly assume a Shepard-LI reunion is "all but guaranteed". They aren't changing the endings, and given that one of the screenshots shows Hackett mentioning the fleet falling back to a rendezvous point it seems that the Normandy fleeing and subsequently crashing will remain in the game.

Just seems like you're really setting yourself up for disappointment if you believe this.


I personally don't mind a bleak ending. This was meant to be a war story after all, and given how powerful the Reapers are meant to be any happy victory would, to me, feel really out of place. i do understand why other people want a happy ending though, and while I don't begrudge them that Bioware has said that they won't change the endings. Getting your hopes up over some reunion is just setting yourself up for disappointment. 

Your definition of a super happy ending is very odd. Geth dead, EDI dead, billions of others dead, relays probably all destroyed. A bit of personal closure if you've got really high EMS and got the reward of an ending variant where Shep survives is a tiny bit of sweet to counterblance the swathes of bitter. My Main Shep's LI is Miranda and i think it would be inexcusable for them to ignore the variant of their current endings where Shep lives and show him/her re-uniting with Loved ones. Don't see how you could provide closure/epilogues while ignoring the elephant in the room.

[Twikz]

Are the two squad members you take on the final mission actually supposed to "teleport" back to the Normandy? I was under the impression that this was a bug of some sort. So if you choose to bring your LI with you to the final mission, wouldn't they be stranded around Earth with Shepard... provided said squad members are even meant to survive with a high EMS.

Modifié par Twikz, 25 juin 2012 - 12:30 .