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[Siansonea]

Define "come crawling back"?

I will judge the EC after playing it. But I'm not optimistic. And even if it's stellar (not holding breath) I won't approach BioWare games in the same way. I will not preorder a BioWare game, in any case, and I will be very much attentive to the names on the writing team roster when deciding to buy future games from this company. I will probably wait until after the game has been out a while before purchasing it, and only after hearing glowing reviews from REAL people who are playing it.

[memorysquid]

StElmo wrote...

If the extended cut or any future DLC fails to rectify what you found so distasteful about the ending, will you come crawling back, when ME4 comes out, what about JE2 or DA3?

Lots of people are saying they will leave EA/BW/ME games for good, then others keep saying "pfft, no they won't, they are just being dramatic"

So which is it? I'm curious?

If JE2 comes out I am there regardless.  DA3, I just don't know.  DA2 went so cartoonish and over the top in gameplay and even in the look of the characters compared to DA1, that it wasn't just a different story arc, it was a different game, and not one I liked.  I'll have to research ME4 first; I never buy prerelease anyway - in game trinkets don't mean much to me; either I like the game or not.  Ultimately, I still liked ME3 enough that it was definitely worth playing, so probably yes.

[Maugrim]

First off I didn't have a huge problem with DA2 and what problems I did have have been soothed by the reactions of the DA dev team, Gaider Laidlaw etc.

If the EC isn't good enough, if it doesn't solve the issues and the ME3 leads (Hudson, Walters) continue to deflect and lie about the issues people have with game (not just closure the ending was just plain bad) then I won't buy anything with them as leads. They both have undeniable talent but go right off the deep end when not constrained by someone to do sanity checks.

[CrazyRah]

If the EC fails i won't quit Bioware forever but i will never preorder again and i will most likely not buy a game until i get some really awesome reviews from people i trust

[sheppard7]

I might buy their games used but pre-ordering is not an option anymore no matter what they do. It's the third strike rule. DA2 - ME3 ending - TOR handling. Sad thing is strikes 2 and 3 could be rectified but they don't want to fix them properly.

[Jonathan Sud]

I could never turn my back on the Mass Effect universe. Despite how the ending for ME3 is, I thought the game was amazing overall, as well as ME2 and the first. These games helped me out through some pretty tough times, and I hold this franchise very near and dear to my heart.

The only way I'd push aside future games is if Casey and Mac mess them up so bad that they don't even feel or grasp the essence of the established universe.

As for Dragon Age, then they'll definitely see my money for DA3. I don't understand all the hate for DA2, but I enjoyed it, despite it's flaws (levels recycled being the major one).

Modifié par Jonathan Sud, 25 juin 2012 - 10:07 .

[betd2]

If the EC fails (and I am not optimistic about it) that's it. I'm uninstalling ME3, 2 and 1 cause I still can't play the other two know what they lead to.

[VendettaI154]

If BioWare make another interesting game I'll probably buy it, sure, but gone are the days of me instantly pre-ordering and getting myself hyped up. I'll be holding off, buying on release or when it's on sale and keeping my expectations low.

[t_i_e_]

Bioware and EA have lost my business forever! They lie, do not finish their games and ask us to give more money for their mistakes! There is a reason why they are the worst American company!
Do not buy from them! And tell your friends why. This a company that is a cancer that the gaming industry needs to be rid of!

[sheppard7]

betd2 wrote...

If the EC fails (and I am not optimistic about it) that's it. I'm uninstalling ME3, 2 and 1 cause I still can't play the other two know what they lead to.

I tried to start one brand new from ME1. I got down to Eden Prime, met Ashley, got to the tram then thought "Oh wait, they will explode and the only thing that changes is the color of the explosion. Nah, I don't think so." then shut it down. Sad because the first 2.9 games of the series have a high replay value but the last .1 of it ruins it with all the plotholes and silliness.

[Fraq Hound]

Won't be Pre-ordering till Bioware proves that they can finish a game correctly. Won't be buying without first seeing favorable fan reviews.

It's pretty simple from my point of view. Bioware may have been my favorite developer for the past decade but there are plenty of other great ones out there and no lack of good video games to fill the void.

Honestly sorry to those employee's who have gave it their all and tried to stay the course or have done the best with what they were given. I appreciate their effort and will freely admit that 98% of Mass Effect 3 was amazing and that DA2 must have been a nightmare to develop in the amount of time they were given.

I don't understand how 2% of a single game can blemish the entire series, but somehow, in the case of Mass Effect, it does; and Dragon Age 2 had very few redeeming qualities. I really hope they can do better with DA3 and I'll be watching intently to see how it turns out; But I assure you I won't be buying it until I'm 100% certain I will enjoy the systems, the characters, and the story with no fear that the ending will putter out like it did in ME3 and DA2.

[sheppard7]

Jonathan Sud wrote...

I could never turn my back on the Mass Effect universe. Despite how the ending for ME3 is, I thought the game was amazing overall, as well as ME2 and the first. These games helped me out through some pretty tough times, and I hold this franchise very near and dear to my heart.

The only way I'd push aside future games is if Casey and Mac mess them up so bad that they don't even feel or grasp the essence of the established universe.

As for Dragon Age, then they'll definitely see my money for DA3. I don't understand all the hate for DA2, but I enjoyed it, despite it's flaws (levels recycled being the major one).

DA2 had very small setting and recycled maps made it all repetitive. Much so that I didn't bother getting the DLCs until I got them free from a rewards program. Then I played Legacy and thought "Okay, this is how the real game should have been." Then the quit while you're ahead happened when I played that POS Mark of the Assassin. Then I thought "This was nothing but a gimmick to get into Felicia Day by the devs obviously."

So DA3 I will wait to get it at a discount or used from Gamestop. And if it's really good, my GS has allowed me to trade in used games to upgrade to new ones paying the difference. They did that with ME2 actually. I learned about the ME series after 2's release. And it was cheaper for me to upgrade to new than buying Cerebus Network separately. I did that in the first 7 days of course.

[Richard 060]

Well, I've got the Amazing Spider-Man game coming tomorrow (with the Stan Lee pre-order content, natch!), so I'm looking forward to zipping around an impressive virtual Manhattan for most of the day... ...then doing the same again, this time as an 89-year-old man...

But if I've got time, I'll eventually get around to watching the first clips hit YouTube. And if, by some miracle, the ending has been re-written enough to be considered 'adequate' or even 'passable', I'll download the EC.

However, if it's just a case of showing the obvious fallout of the 3 asinine choices from the Catalyst, then I'm out. It doesn't matter if they finally do what they should have included from the start (different scenes showing the effect of your various choices to the principle cast, after the dust has settled) - if the plot still ends with the same fiasco of elementary storytelling 'don'ts' as it currently has, I can't in good conscience support BioWare as a company selling itself on 'story-based gaming'. No downloading the Extended Cut or any other DLC, no more multiplayer sessions, no more BioWare/EA games. I'm voting with my wallet, in favour of Good Writing.

[olipyr]

Dragon Age 3? Hell no. After the bullsh*t they pulled with Dragon Age 2, I won't be buying/pre-ordering it. If the reviews are outstanding from the community, I may.

Never got into Jade Empire.

Mass Effect 4? No.

[Kathleen321]

I don't want to crawl back... but the indoctrination... god it's so strong...

[SAmaster01]

Whatever it'll be, I'll make sure to wait and keep my ear to the ground before investing anything into it.

[legion999]

I won't. Even if the EC is amazing (which I doubt) EA is still the main factor which puts me off buying any games from Bioware. I just don't feel with EA in charge that Bioware can make games to their best ability. Also the PR bull just annoys me more and more.

A shame really as I wanted to buy DA3 but the handling of ME3 has put me off it.

[CptBomBom00]

I never got into Dragon Age universe so, I won't pay attention to DA3, as for ME4, for me at least I don't know about you guys, but for me Mass Effect and Commander Shepard story ended on the third game, so I won't be buying another ME game.

[Aaleel]

DA3 was DOA as soon as I finished playing DA2.

Bioware games are off my preorder list as a result of DA2 & ME3 together. The question for me is whether they'll ever take the time needed to make quality games again. So until I see proof that they have, I won't spend the money, used or otherwise.

[GoblinSapper]

Wait for player reviews. All you can do.

[ninjaman001]

If the ending isn't pretty much rewritten(star child/deus ex machina removed) then I won't be pre-ordering any bioware game again and only if reviews are glowing from actual gamers will I buy the game when the price drops months down the line. Or I will just flat out not buy another bioware title with hudson (and whoever else was responsible for the lies that were fed to us leading up to the release, and the insulting talk that was directed at the community after everyone had played and hated the endings) at the helm.

Modifié par ninjaman001, 25 juin 2012 - 10:52 .

[Doofe2012]

Aaleel wrote...

DA3 was DOA as soon as I finished playing DA2.

Bioware games are off my preorder list as a result of DA2 & ME3 together. The question for me is whether they'll ever take the time needed to make quality games again. So until I see proof that they have, I won't spend the money, used or otherwise.

Not until they get away from EA somehow.

[Jedifan421]

StElmo wrote...

If the extended cut or any future DLC fails to rectify what you found so distasteful about the ending, will you come crawling back, when ME4 comes out, what about JE2 or DA3?

NOPE.

[wildannie]

The EC is not going to make one bit of difference to what I do. I'll be buying their games used in future, if that stops being possible I will be waiting until they're in the bargain bin. The less money I have to pass on the Bioware/EA the better. I have no doubt I'll play the games if I hear they are good but I REAAALLLY don't want to give them any more of my money.

edit: If they make a good story DLC/expansion that also fixes the mess that is the ME2 exclusive LIs (including the possibility of Thane not dying) I'll bring my cash back to the table, anything short of that??? no way.  

Modifié par wildannie, 25 juin 2012 - 11:01 .

[niteight]

I hope you're reading this bioware.We (not EA) decide whether your studio remains solvent.Your arrogance,false representation (I call them lies),nonapolagetic attitude combined with the current economic climate has ended Mass Effect more decidely than your EC ever could.Keep your "artistic vision" and we'll keep our money & when "the future of the Mass Effect series" comes to pass we'll see who can pay their bills.