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[TheGreatDayne]

I'm terrible at keeping my word... For example, I once told myself, "I'll never buy Final Fantasy games" after trying out my cousin's Final Fantasy X (I hated it).

Well, after me saying that, I now own Final Fantasy XII, XIII, Tactics A2 (or what ever it was called), and XIII-2. Yeah, terrible with promises.

So, yeah, if they made another Mass Effect, I might buy it... And if the trailer looks cool, I'll pre-order it. And if it comes with the soundtrack, I will pre-order the Collector's Edition.

But, in all honesty, the biggest disappointment to me are all those bugs. I mean, on the PS3, when you ride the Citadel elevator, there is a chance it will trap you indefinitely in a loading screen. And Ken and Gabby won't start bantering until you've become good friends with Ashley for some reason... And Matriarch Aethyta calls me Liara's girlfriend, even though I didn't romance her, yet (she called me Liara's Commander the first time I played. Weird). And, of course, the face import... It de-motivates me from playing a Shepard with a self-made face...

[Jonathan Shepard]

Hathur wrote...

Vilegrim wrote...

erm since even Game of Thrones the game is better than DA2 and ME3 (and it's not even that good) they really dropped the ball.  I mean seriously where did the care and talent go? 

See now that's just more hyperbole.. and you're full of it, I'm sorry to say... the Game of Thrones RPG is a horrid disaster. The voice acting save for one or two characters is agonzingly bad, the dialogue is atrocious, the gameplay is clumsy and horribly rigid, the visuals alone are unforgiveable (animations, constant clipping errors, horrendous textures).

You have no concept of what you're talking about when you say somethign like that -- that game is a horrid mess and has no measure of quality control at all in it. Next thing you'll come out and spew childish nonsense like "the green lantern video game is better than Me3"

If you're trying to convince people ME3 is as a whole a horrible game, you're failing miserably at it by comparing it to that digital abortion called Game of Thrones. <_<

And the crap quality of textures and horrible clipping in ME3 don't bother you? The repeated lines of dialogue don't bother you? The flat voice-acting of Ms. Allers doesn't bother you? The rushed feeling of ME3 is apparent. GoT game isn't all that far behind ME3 in terms of quality, as long as we're discussing aesthetics. In the enjoyable-to-play department, however, GoT /is/ inferior by far.

[CmdrStJean]

I never really had an interest in Bioware outside of the Mass Effect series, so its no big deal for me to move on. I suspect many of you here have far more time and money invested in this sort of thing, so I can see how it might be more difficult to walk away. Especially if you've put years into following multiple franchises from inception to the present day. I on the other hand have no such qualms and I expect I'll be walking away from Bioware and Mass Effect permanently once this EC thing is out in the wild.

The fact is, I just have no interest in whatever Bioware might do with post ME3. If they do something like a prequel it will be for naught as I know the galaxy will be in ruins soon enough. If they set something in the future, I'll have no interest as I really don't care to play through as a Yahg terrorizing the remnants of the Asari Republics in a decayed and hopeless Galaxy. The developers have made their bed and barring a stunning reversal per the EC they're going to have to lie in it.

More importantly though is the fact that I feel Bioware is entirely untrustworthy when it comes to what they say about their products, their plans and what they intend to deliver to the customer. For me, it's really not even an "ending" issue anymore, but rather a question of credibility. Why in the world would I continue to give money to someone who I feel is actively trying to mislead me as to what I'm really paying for. Ultimately that's what has driven me away, much more so than anything else. Very sad stuff indeed.

Modifié par CmdrStJean, 25 juin 2012 - 11:10 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

It would have been easy... incredibly easy... for bioware to fix ME3 for me. One extra option in the starkid dialogue wheel, a refusal to participate in his sick "solution," and then let that play out however. I'd prefer a way to win while refusing to participate, but hey, beggars can't be choosers. If that option ends with an evolved pyjak finding Liara's message, that's fair. It doesn't look like that's going to happen, though, and it doesn't look like anything else is going to change significantly or unexpectedly enough to make me feel anything but crushing loss and despair when Iook at my CEs lined up on the shelf.

Am I still going to buy Bioware games? Sure. Am I going to pre-order them? Maybe, we'll see what bonuses look like. Am I going to get CEs? If they're just "hey, pay $10 and get the $10 day 1 DLC," I may. Otherwise, no. I think this is fairly reasonable. Bioware does things few other developers anywhere do: they give us female protagonists, they're LGBT friendly, they've got a really great emphasis on dialogue, and these are things I do not want to see perish from the earth.

However...

If the EC fails in the way that podcast implied it was going to fail, and if no future DLC or game allows us to further influence the ending in any way, then I'm never going to recommend the Mass Effect series to anyone ever again, and I'll never purchase any game related to the Mass Effect universe again. For the last year, I've literally been grabbing every gamer I meet by the lapels and shaking them, saying "YOU HAVE TO PLAY MASS EFFECT." I've purchased the game for more than a dozen people, and convinced at least several dozen more to give it a try on their own dime.

No more.

[Meltemph]

IF the EC is just more of the same, I'll just give up on the ME series... However, if BW makes something else that I think I would like, I would still buy it.

[Thornne]

I am not going to say I will never, ever buy a game from Bioware again. That would be silly. If they make something really good, and I want to play it, then I'll buy it.

But I will never, ever pre-order a game from them again. And I will likely wait quite a while before I do buy, if at all. A good game will be just as good, and half the price, a few months later.

[Fionn Marr]

One: I don't crawl. I casually strut.
Two: No. I won't return for DA3 the arcade button masher. Or ME 4 when Shepard gets into a prothean-esque life pod and then thawed out in 50,000 years time to stop yet another Reaper invasion. (Don't laugh, you know it could happen.)

[ninjaman001]

Fionn Marr wrote...

One: I don't crawl. I casually strut.
Two: No. I won't return for DA3 the arcade button masher. Or ME 4 when Shepard gets into a prothean-esque life pod and then thawed out in 50,000 years time to stop yet another Reaper invasion. (Don't laugh, you know it could happen.)

I wouldn't put it past EA to force something like this.

[ticklefist]

I just renewed my SWTOR sub for the first time since launch, so yeah I guess.

[BDelacroix]

I was jaded before and that hasn't changed. It was years before I bought ME1 just because of the "xbox exclusive" move.

Now having said that, those who just don't believe anyone who says they won't buy anymore ea/bioware still won't believe it when its stated here.

[Averdi]

I've never promised to swear off Bioware games for good.

That said, however, I'll always spoil myself thoroughly on any future Bioware games and partake of a much broader sample of reviews. Once burned, twice shy. I view Bioware with a not inconsiderable amount of suspicion at this point, and no longer expect their games to be good.

I've never played DA2. It was on my list, but based on the ME3 outcome and general opinions, I've no intention of getting it now.

[The Spamming Troll]

its easy for me to say "No." to this becasue i think bioware sucks.

they just got lucky with ME1.

every blind squirrel finds a nut one day.

[Phydeaux314]

"Crawl back" implies I left in the first place.

[grey_wind]

Depends. It'll take a long time, but if BioWare can go back to making great games like they used to over time, then I might buy new games from them. But they'd have to blow me away with something stellar, and even then I'll be really, really cautious.

[20x6]

I'm already done with buying Bioware titles new.
EC is just curiosity now since it's free.

I've never bought DLC for any game and I imagine if games go download-only, I'll just give up on gaming entirely.

Maximizing profits is understandable.
Maximizing profits via DRM and the removal of the option of trading / buying used games is ridiculous.

If they reduced the cost of the game by 50% at release (ie: new title is 30 bucks) I'd go for it.
Right now at 60-80 a shot, I can only justify their worth if I can collect them or if I can trade them in when I'm done.

[T_l_M_B_0]

Hell no. Once EC inevitably doesn't impress me, its goodbye Bioware.

[MHBILLS_Endurell]

Absolutely not. They failed to deliver what they promised- “the
Beginning, Middle, and END” of a story based "on player choice." THEN
ignored us, and willfully lied to themselves (see the interview with Hudson and
Walters… so deluded.)



Be warned Bioware: Artists to love their artistic integrity more than their
customers generally become STARVING artists.




If they don't come through I am continuing my Boycott of Bioware, EA, Casey
Hudson and Mac Walters until old age makes it impossible to remember them
or play games. I will be giving recommendations to every friend, family member,
or acquaintance that brings up to the topic to stay away from their products.  And I know around 50,000-70,000 people who
will do the same. (HTL, Retake)

 

P.S.

I’ve already stopped my friend from buying ME3, DA:O, and DA2 (there was a
sale), except ME3 which was around full price. I pointed him towards the
Witcher and let him borrow my copies of the other games. There’s around $100 bucks that Bioware/EA
will never see.

Modifié par MHBILLS_Endurell, 26 juin 2012 - 12:13 .

[KDD-0063]

If the quality's never changed, of course I would crawl back beg for more, but obviously this is not the case.

[Mann42]

Regardless of the final condition of the Extended Cut, Bioware went from being an untouchable, beloved company to being just another game company. I will not pre-order any more, and any future Bioware purchase will involve a full vetting process, like every other game company. 

In fact, this has been a real sad year for me. It's the year that both Bioware and Blizzard went from being shining examples of what game development should be, all the way to mediocre studios focused primarily on cash grabs and arrogantly dictating to players exactly how their games should be appreciated. Too much talking at players, not enough talking to.

All I have left is Valve. Luckily Valve is funded by Steam, so they can take as much time as they need to make the best game possible. No unnecessary cutting, no removing content because its too hard to get in by deadline. When they realized any publisher they could sell themselves to would just destroy their brand, they innovated and created what is now the number 1 digital storefront, just so they could make whatever games they wanted. That's true artistic integrity, and they're the only ones left.

Modifié par nexworks, 26 juin 2012 - 12:15 .

[HBC Dresden]

nexworks wrote...

Regardless of the final condition of the Extended Cut, Bioware went from being an untouchable, beloved company to being just another game company. I will not pre-order any more, and any future Bioware purchase will involve a full vetting process, like every other game company. 

In fact, this has been a real sad year for me. It's the year that both Bioware and Blizzard went from being shining examples of what game development should be, all the way to mediocre studios focused primarily on cash grabs and arrogantly dictating to players exactly how their games should be appreciated. Too much talking at players, not enough talking to.

All I have left is Valve. Luckily Valve is funded by Steam, so they can take as much time as they need to make the best game possible. No unnecessary cutting, no removing content because its too hard to get in by deadline. When they realized any publisher they could sell themselves to would just destroy their brand, they innovated and created what is now the number 1 digital storefront, just so they could make whatever games they wanted. That's true artistic integrity, and they're the only ones left.

True true. But sometimes Valve's "integrity" can get on my nerves... Half-Life 3.

[MHBILLS_Endurell]

nexworks wrote...

All I have left is Valve

Indeed. They once gave away portal for free, all you had to do was press a button. The blog post said, "No seriously, free game! Just press the big red button!" I love Valve, I used to love Bioware.

If they don't come through on this, well, you can read my earlier post if you care.

[sheppard7]

Jonathan Shepard wrote...

Hathur wrote...

Vilegrim wrote...

erm since even Game of Thrones the game is better than DA2 and ME3 (and it's not even that good) they really dropped the ball.  I mean seriously where did the care and talent go? 

See now that's just more hyperbole.. and you're full of it, I'm sorry to say... the Game of Thrones RPG is a horrid disaster. The voice acting save for one or two characters is agonzingly bad, the dialogue is atrocious, the gameplay is clumsy and horribly rigid, the visuals alone are unforgiveable (animations, constant clipping errors, horrendous textures).

You have no concept of what you're talking about when you say somethign like that -- that game is a horrid mess and has no measure of quality control at all in it. Next thing you'll come out and spew childish nonsense like "the green lantern video game is better than Me3"

If you're trying to convince people ME3 is as a whole a horrible game, you're failing miserably at it by comparing it to that digital abortion called Game of Thrones. <_<

And the crap quality of textures and horrible clipping in ME3 don't bother you? The repeated lines of dialogue don't bother you? The flat voice-acting of Ms. Allers doesn't bother you? The rushed feeling of ME3 is apparent. GoT game isn't all that far behind ME3 in terms of quality, as long as we're discussing aesthetics. In the enjoyable-to-play department, however, GoT /is/ inferior by far.

Allers didn't bother me much because I talked to her as little as possible.

[Sovereign z]

Nope, I meant what I said. If EC does not bring about a coherent conclusion to the ME series then I will never buy another Bioware product again.

[DnVill]

I'll wait until everyone here in BSN will say its good. My benchmark will be ME1.

Otherwise no more Bioware Games for me.

[Mann42]

HBC Dresden wrote...

True true. But sometimes Valve's "integrity" can get on my nerves... Half-Life 3.

You mean Half LIfe 2: Episode 3? /headdesks

But honestly, they have never released a bad game, and until they release something as awful as the Mass Effect 3 ending, I will give them the benefit of the doubt. If they need 10 years to make Half Life 3 their best game yet, then they can have it, because I know that the final product will be amazing.

Until it isn't. Then they're off the instant pre-order list too, heh.