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[warlock22]

sth88 wrote...

If the EC fails, Bioware will have lost me as a customer and advocate forever. Period.

This^

[Rick Lewis]

StElmo wrote...

If the extended cut or any future DLC fails to rectify what you found so distasteful about the ending, will you come crawling back, when ME4 comes out, what about JE2 or DA3?

Lots of people are saying they will leave EA/BW/ME games for good, then others keep saying "pfft, no they won't, they are just being dramatic"

So which is it? I'm curious?

I was never a big fan of Bioware and only liked the Mass Effect series. If I ever claim to be angry enough to leave the community and never buy a Bioware game again, then take my word for it. I got other games made by other companies to look forward to.

Thankfully, I never made such claims anyway and yeah most people just vent and come back. Just a pathetic way of drawing attention to themselves.

[BamBam38]

I liked the endings. I don't need to crawl.

[MysticSpace]

If they shoehorn Multiplayer into Dragon's Age 3, I'll wait until it's $20 until I buy it.

[K_Tabris]

Shepard did enough hobbling for me during the atrocious ending. Staying put, watching it on youtube, and will move on/continue playing their actual good games.

[cgvhjb]

StElmo wrote...

If the extended cut or any future DLC fails to rectify what you found so distasteful about the ending, will you come crawling back, when ME4 comes out, what about JE2 or DA3?

Lots of people are saying they will leave EA/BW/ME games for good, then others keep saying "pfft, no they won't, they are just being dramatic"

So which is it? I'm curious?

Nope, I wont.

Been purchasing Bioware games (just about everyone I think) since they were Black Isle Studios and I won't touch anything they market in the future unless they make something very VERY good to renew my faith in them. If not well... so long and thanks for the all the fish Bioware.

[NickelToe]

StElmo wrote...

If the extended cut or any future DLC fails to rectify what you found so distasteful about the ending, will you come crawling back, when ME4 comes out, what about JE2 or DA3?

Lots of people are saying they will leave EA/BW/ME games for good, then others keep saying "pfft, no they won't, they are just being dramatic"

So which is it? I'm curious?

I am done, just waiting on the first youtube video of the EC to watch the ship sink since the game did not provide 60 bucks worth of entertainment or any semblance of the Mass Effect story line.  Gotta get my kicks where I can.

Bioware wont have my money.  At best after customer review scores being high, not bought off Review sites scores, I will wait to see it for 10 bucks in a bargain bin or 2nd hand.  I will do whatever I can to keep money out of their hands.

Dragon Age Origins (10 year old ui, no gameplay to be found in this title, just a 60 dollar movie)
ME2 ( ok decent combat, no longer a rpg, story was all i was there for)
DA2 (why play a turd after the first one was crap, heard it was worse if that is possible)
ME3 (Mac and Casey's grand marketing strategy and social experiment fails, ME3 is not forgettable, it is infamous)
SWTOR ( biggest let down in the history of gaming, although ME3 might take the lead after EC pushes space kid down the fans throats)

What is the point after all these sub-par titles. It is not just Mass Effect 3, three are sequals that do not live up in gameplay, much less story to the original in anyway.  The other two may be blamed on EA for pushing it out too fast, but I doubt they will ever correct themselves since people have no standards and blindly follow companies.  People will waste money on unfinished games, so they will never bring a full product to market again imo, much less a captivating story.  Besides all that, the game industry is becoming micro transaction heaven and Mobile apps are where the money is at.  Mobile apps need little to no story with low dev costs and high returns, right up the companies alley.

Done, was fun through ME1 and somewhat thru ME2 having to overlook that the game should have been an expansion since they bypassed the main story for an entire title.  On to other things.

[s17tabris]

Even if the EC somehow manages to fix the ending, I'm not gonna "crawl back". I'm not in the "ME3 was brilliant except for the ending" camp.

I'm done with Bioware for now. I'm not interested in buying more ME games (assuming they make more) and I haven't played the DA games. If they do make other games in the future, maybe I'll buy them but only if they are heavily discounted and if they get good player reviews.

[SouperTrooper]

While it's nice that they are releasing DLC, trying to please the fans, I get the feeling most people will end the DLC with a "meh" kind of feeling. It's really hard to satisfy anyone with do overs, and frankly their entire approach, ie expand on the ending that no one liked as opposed to actually listen to fan demands and provide a proper ending, is not helping matters.

Up to now I've been a religious pre-order bioware's titles kinda guy. Definitely not doing that anymore. And further the way the reviewers glossed over the hack-job ending, I'm not sure I would trust the next highly rated Bioware game to be worth my time anyway. The DLC would have to be really special to get me on board again...and frankly if they mean to simply expand on that crap they called an ending the first time around, it's not happening for me.

[Drunkenhobo86]

 It's hard to say, I've already sort of been disillusioned by gaming in general. It's not only Bioware/EA doing this, but other gaming companies as well. They create a "base" game for 59.99 and then expect you to pay a subscription, buy DLC, buy a "premium" or "elite" membership that gives you a disadvantage if you don't buy it, or you don't get the whole story, and ontop of that they expect you to have an iCentipad and buy all sorts of crazy authenticators and mini-games amongst other things to once again get the "complete" story or an advantage.

Remember the days of 4 disc RPGs that contained mini-games and more dialogue than a written novel? And was a complete story without needing to buy additional software to see the complete picture? I guess people could argue that voice acting costs are substantially higher than a wall of text, but still...I miss those days.

[White Zombie]

I'd give them the gimlet eye and have to research thoroughly prior to buying into another Bioware game. I will never, ever, EVER make the mistake of pre-ordering a game. Mass Effect 3 has marked the first and last time I will ever make this mistake.

[Temprathe]

High Kicks wrote...

I'm pretty good at keeping my word on these kinds of things.

When Marvel Vs Capcom 3 came out the way it was and after the release of the ultimate version, I vowed to never by another Capcom game for as long as I live. I've lived up to that promise so far. MvC3 was the last one I bought. Traded the game off for creds I was so disappointed.

If the EC flops for me, then I'll vow to be very cautious of EA/Bioware and not to buy anything on first release. I would have made this vow after DA2 came out, but I just knew Bioware wouldn't screw ME so badly. I guess I was kinda wrong there.

Quoting this because he brought up Capcom, whom I also felt slighted by, although I did see their reasons for making Ultimate MvC3 versus ten million updates to the original one. Plus it was more cost-effective for consumers. Instead of spending $5 on every new characters, you spent $40 on a new game with new content and characters.

But I digress. I'm not upset about the ending, actually. What irks me is how certain people within the ME development team traeted and responded to their fans. I won't say I won't buy another Bioware title again, partly because I wasn't rage-facing mad about the ending, but I'll be wary of buying them based purely on the way they responded to fan criticism on a personal basis and the false advertisements that were made. My hesitation has nothing to do with the way the story was treated, or the glitches or anything like that. It has to do with customer service. I quit using Sony products for the exact same reason.


On-topic: Story-wise, I don't know where ME4 would heada anyway. When it's announced, I'm sure it'll at least be something worth renting.

Modifié par Temprathe, 26 juin 2012 - 07:29 .

[Mighty_BOB_cnc]

EA burned me with Command & Conquer, they're not going to do it again with Mass Effect.

Modifié par Mighty_BOB_cnc, 26 juin 2012 - 07:36 .

[shurryy]

I am not going to boycott them no...
I am just going to be a lot more sceptical and I am not going to pre-order anything else before I get a good look at what they're giving me.

[TLK Spires]

StElmo wrote...

If the extended cut or any future DLC fails to rectify what you found so distasteful about the ending, will you come crawling back, when ME4 comes out, what about JE2 or DA3?

Lots of people are saying they will leave EA/BW/ME games for good, then others keep saying "pfft, no they won't, they are just being dramatic"

So which is it? I'm curious?

i'm not coming back point, blank, period, the end. i know the extended farce won't fix a goddamn thing. they've taken an absolutely insincere approach in addressing an outright pretentious set of 'endings', and they won't see one more red cent of my money for it. if i ever want another bioware/ea game, i'll buy it used.

'b-b-but you'll need an ONLINE PASS anyway!'

dont give a ****, i'll get one for free, or i'll buy one for cheap on ebay or something, the point is, they won't see so much as a spec of lint from my pockets deposited into their bank account.

[FatalX7.0]

I don't want to support EA at all anymore. Battlefield 3 Premium is ridiculous, I'm highly cautious about the EC, Dead Space 3 and Crysis 3. I shouldn't have to feel that way about a video game. I'm tired of what EA does to their games, and what they do with DLC.

Hopefully E3 was a long-deserved kick in the teeth, with that interview about how gamers don't want linearity, games becoming stale, like AC and CoD. I was surprised when I heard that Black Ops 2 was actually expanding, it was going to be more open and less linear. HOPEFULLY, if EA insists on "killing CoD" and keeping it's head shoved right in it's ass, it'll follow suit and make their games back into what they were.

[ninjaman001]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

I don't want to support EA at all anymore. Battlefield 3 Premium is ridiculous, I'm highly cautious about the EC, Dead Space 3 and Crysis 3. I shouldn't have to feel that way about a video game. I'm tired of what EA does to their games, and what they do with DLC.

Hopefully E3 was a long-deserved kick in the teeth, with that interview about how gamers don't want linearity, games becoming stale, like AC and CoD. I was surprised when I heard that Black Ops 2 was actually expanding, it was going to be more open and less linear. HOPEFULLY, if EA insists on "killing CoD" and keeping it's head shoved right in it's ass, it'll follow suit and make their games back into what they were.

The problem is EA is run by businesspeople, that is why Valve is still great they actually care about their community beyond the money in their pockets. 

[KIERONOO]

 Give mass effect to valve but that will never happen so may :wizard: Forever continue:pinched:

[DaosX]

ninjaman001 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

I don't want to support EA at all anymore. Battlefield 3 Premium is ridiculous, I'm highly cautious about the EC, Dead Space 3 and Crysis 3. I shouldn't have to feel that way about a video game. I'm tired of what EA does to their games, and what they do with DLC.

Hopefully E3 was a long-deserved kick in the teeth, with that interview about how gamers don't want linearity, games becoming stale, like AC and CoD. I was surprised when I heard that Black Ops 2 was actually expanding, it was going to be more open and less linear. HOPEFULLY, if EA insists on "killing CoD" and keeping it's head shoved right in it's ass, it'll follow suit and make their games back into what they were.

The problem is EA is run by businesspeople, that is why Valve is still great they actually care about their community beyond the money in their pockets. 

While I sort of agree with you saying that EA is run by suits however, they (EA) don't actually make games. They don't have the say that this goes here or that goes there. They give out the parameters for what the studio is expected to do. In the case of Bioware, EA may propose the budget but it's ultimately Bioware that chooses how they go about using it. The ending is TOTALLY due to Bioware, not EA.

EA has other titles that ARE good. I don't see too many people complaining about how Dead Space has sold out (with the exception of the multiplayer announcement however, like I said, EA told Visceral, "We want you to put MP in it". How Visceral goes about doing it will be their own success/failure...not EA's). Going a little further along, I don't see anyone complain about, well anything, regarding SSX or any of the Criterion NFS games (haha, I know I'm clearly avoiding Black Box's NFS games). EA isn't making yearly cash-ins with story-based games like Activision on Call of Duty. People need to stop complaining about EA. There are worse publishers out there.

This whole fiasco is not a result of EA but rather a lead writer (and perhaps producer) for the ME team on Bioware. Yes poor writer, you are so utterly screwed once EA does their finances and uses you as a scapegoat for their deteriorating market value.