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#126
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2nd hand or used from now on methinks. Never again on Day One, and never again CE's.

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StElmo wrote...

xxskyshadowxx wrote...

I won't quit them for good, but they won't see any of my money. Until they change their behavior (i.e. not lying about their products to generate false hype, treating their customers properly pre and post release, getting back to their roots and making good RPGs instead of trying to make multi-genre game titles) I will be buying their games used.


Might not be possible in the next console generation, so what are you going to do then?


I'l keep playing on PC.

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After DA2 and ME3 Bioware is no longer preorder soon as possible without a thought and they were the only company I did that with. I will only get games from them if almost all players that review it say it is great. I'm not even going to touch DA3 unless players say it is great and we can make our own character again rather than have some character forced on us.

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Considering that I don't play ME at all anymore, I'd say that I quit them for good.

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Well, I certainly won't be buying anymore Mass Effect stuff. I won't say I won't buy another product from them in the future, but no more pro-orders. If the game is good, and I see that user reviews are actuall positive, I'll buy the game used a few months down the line so that they don't get my money. Until they've changed their ways from the path EA has put them on, I won't change his stance.

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 25 juin 2012 - 05:22 .


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I just love how people behave as if a video game company were an unfaithful lover or something :P ... so much hyperbole here.

Compare Mass effect 3 to to the vast majority of games available on the market right now and ask yourself how many of those, as a whole experience, are a better experience than mass effect? Not many... not many at all. Most games are trash, Mass Effect for the most part is a solid gaming and story experience with some flaws. Frankly I think the series has spoiled people because the series is just that strong that the mistakes or flaws in ME3 make people bitter and upset... yet they forget to objectively look at it and think "hmm.. well to be honest, 99% of other games on the market are pretty trashy compared to this game, even with the unpleasant ending or other flaws."

That's not to say you should blindly purchase bioware products.. you shouldn't ever do that... but because they made a game that didn't live up to our perhaps too-high expectations, yet still was of sound quality and enjoyment for the most part, to say you'll never even look at another game of theirs is just childish.

That is not what will determine for me anyway whether or not I buy another Bioware game... what will determine it is if I am tricked into buying another game of theirs that requires an always-online connection to play the single player game (the DLC for pc version forces you to be connected 100% of the time to the internet or the game kicks you out, in solo play)... that is what will determien whether I buy their games again, not a hissy fit over an undesired ending. <_<

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If the extended cut goes well and makes the ending sub-par I would forget about this incident, but if it still sucks than Dragon Age 3 is the last game I am ever going to buy from Bioware

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I'll probably get DA3 depending on how it looks. Bioware won't be a Day 1 buy for me anymore though. Definitely will be waiting for a sale and price drops.

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Hathur wrote...

I just love how people behave as if a video game company were an unfaithful lover or something :P ... so much hyperbole here.

Compare Mass effect 3 to to the vast majority of games available on the market right now and ask yourself how many of those, as a whole experience, are a better experience than mass effect? Not many... not many at all. Most games are trash, Mass Effect for the most part is a solid gaming and story experience with some flaws. Frankly I think the series has spoiled people because the series is just that strong that the mistakes or flaws in ME3 make people bitter and upset... yet they forget to objectively look at it and think "hmm.. well to be honest, 99% of other games on the market are pretty trashy compared to this game, even with the unpleasant ending or other flaws."

That's not to say you should blindly purchase bioware products.. you shouldn't ever do that... but because they made a game that didn't live up to our perhaps too-high expectations, yet still was of sound quality and enjoyment for the most part, to say you'll never even look at another game of theirs is just childish.

That is not what will determine for me anyway whether or not I buy another Bioware game... what will determine it is if I am tricked into buying another game of theirs that requires an always-online connection to play the single player game (the DLC for pc version forces you to be connected 100% of the time to the internet or the game kicks you out, in solo play)... that is what will determien whether I buy their games again, not a hissy fit over an undesired ending. <_<



erm since even Game of Thrones the game is better than DA2 and ME3 (and it's not even that good) they really dropped the ball.  I mean seriously where did the care and talent go? 

#135
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It wouldn't be "crawling back" since I never technically left. But I'll never pre-order again, and I'll probably wait until I can get it for at least 50% the day-one ticket price (which may take a while I know, but I really felt ripped off after ME3, what I got was worth waaaay less than $80, not just because of the ending either).
I also won't be reading any reviews from professional review site (IGN in particular), time and time again these sites have proven that they do not produce unbiased reviews, but are just another form of advertising, From now on I'll play the demo to get a sense of the gameplay, and then read month-later fan reviews.

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If I hate the EC, then it will be clear to me that BioWare doesn't tell the stories I like anymore. I will not be buying a BioWare or EA game the rest of my days.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 25 juin 2012 - 05:29 .


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 I'll play ME4 no matter what, but if BWare can't fix the ending of 3 I don't want a 4.

I want them to stop making games entirely, but I know that's to much to ask until EA runs them out of business.

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I have played every game from bioware and a bunch from EA. I have followed there decisions in game making in every game. I see exactly what they were doing in this ending, but if for any reason I didn't like it that wouldn't stop me from playing other games such as DA3. There totally different and you can't say that ME3 DA2 were bad games cause they weren't. They were just different. So I can completely agree I wouldn't buy dlc for that particular game cause I didn't like it but a true gamer will always stick to the developers decision cause your enjoying the ride not creating it.

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Hathur wrote...

I just love how people behave as if a video game company were an unfaithful lover or something :P ... so much hyperbole here.

Compare Mass effect 3 to to the vast majority of games available on the market right now and ask yourself how many of those, as a whole experience, are a better experience than mass effect? Not many... not many at all. Most games are trash, Mass Effect for the most part is a solid gaming and story experience with some flaws. Frankly I think the series has spoiled people because the series is just that strong that the mistakes or flaws in ME3 make people bitter and upset... yet they forget to objectively look at it and think "hmm.. well to be honest, 99% of other games on the market are pretty trashy compared to this game, even with the unpleasant ending or other flaws."

That's not to say you should blindly purchase bioware products.. you shouldn't ever do that... but because they made a game that didn't live up to our perhaps too-high expectations, yet still was of sound quality and enjoyment for the most part, to say you'll never even look at another game of theirs is just childish.

That is not what will determine for me anyway whether or not I buy another Bioware game... what will determine it is if I am tricked into buying another game of theirs that requires an always-online connection to play the single player game (the DLC for pc version forces you to be connected 100% of the time to the internet or the game kicks you out, in solo play)... that is what will determien whether I buy their games again, not a hissy fit over an undesired ending. <_<



Not really. I have played many games that have given me great amounts of entertainment. The Racthet and Clank series, the Halo series, Civilizations IV and V, the original Jak and Daxter series, and much much more. BioWare isn't the pinnacle of storytelling. There are games that have told better stories or have better game mechanics. Only BioWare fanboys think otherwise. BioWare isn't the only one that can tell a good story or make a good game. That's just fanboyism.

You may not care about the ending, but I did. I don't need you to tell me what should and shouldn't upset me. And if you are, then you can ****** off. I choose what I like and don't like, I choose what makes or brakes the game for me, and I choose what I will or won't spend my money on. If you think that's ridiculous, I don't care. Besides, it's no just the ending ythat was a problem with Mass Effect 3, it's just the biggest flaw that managed to cover up the other flaws of this game.

I'll take my money elsewhere. I'll choose how I feel and what I should spend it on. Think it's "ridiculous"? Tough. I'm not a fanboy. I think others have and can do better than BioWare did. Thanks to DA2 and ME3, I'll be treating them like any other game company. I didn't buy DA2 and didn't buy TOR. ME3 was the "llast chance" and they blew that. So nope, they're just another developer trying to make a buck and care for nothing else but the buck.

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 25 juin 2012 - 05:41 .


#140
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Gone, permanently. This is why I'm going to ask a mod to perma-ban my account if the EC sticks with the current ****. I know of no better way to let Bioware know that I have no intention of coming crawling back to them. (I do have to thank IGN for their actions during the previous few months, though. I now know to never trust their reviews. Forbes, however, I may have to start keeping an eye on them.)

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I didn't bite on DA2 and TOR. I bit on ME3 to conclude the series and it backfired hilariously.

Right now, I don't think I'll care enough to bite next time. There's better companies pushing out better products.

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I honestly don't know. Now that my initial ire at that ending has subsided, I can honestly say I don't care as much. If the EC fixes this, then I'll probably forgive and move on. If it doesn't, I'll buy their next game if it looks interesting after I've seen reviews.

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Hathur wrote...

That's not to say you should blindly purchase bioware products.. you shouldn't ever do that... but because they made a game that didn't live up to our perhaps too-high expectations, yet still was of sound quality and enjoyment for the most part, to say you'll never even look at another game of theirs is just childish.


My expectations weren't too high. I expected quality and an ending similar to the last two damn games. Kick ass and reunite with the crew, including your LI. BioWare seems to be falling head over heels for their grimdark crap and I don't care for it. They didn't use to be like that.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 25 juin 2012 - 05:37 .


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Vilegrim wrote...

erm since even Game of Thrones the game is better than DA2 and ME3 (and it's not even that good) they really dropped the ball.  I mean seriously where did the care and talent go? 


See now that's just more hyperbole.. and you're full of it, I'm sorry to say... the Game of Thrones RPG is a horrid disaster. The voice acting save for one or two characters is agonzingly bad, the dialogue is atrocious, the gameplay is clumsy and horribly rigid, the visuals alone are unforgiveable (animations, constant clipping errors, horrendous textures).

You have no concept of what you're talking about when you say somethign like that -- that game is a horrid mess and has no measure of quality control at all in it. Next thing you'll come out and spew childish nonsense like "the green lantern video game is better than Me3"

If you're trying to convince people ME3 is as a whole a horrible game, you're failing miserably at it by comparing it to that digital abortion called Game of Thrones. <_<

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The ending in it's current form(pre-extended cut) may be a disappointment, but it did not ruin the games for me. It's a letdown for sure, but in regards to the universe and its races, we've only scratched the surface. There's so many exciting events in the past, the Rachni Wars for example, and plenty of room for future events aswell.

Even if the Mass Relays are gone and the fleets are stuck on earth, it's not the end of the races. The military was a minority of the population. In a few generations the surviving races will thriv untill Mass Relay technology is unlocked again. Perhaps then the Dark Energy -storyline will reach its epic conclusion.

OR we get a cheap Shepard movie with Twilight cast.

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Perhaps the most upsetting thing is that I finished, ended, or concluded the game, but it felt like I lost. There's no point in playing games that make me feel that way. I have real life for that. I didn't think that I had to worry about that with Bioware games, but apparently I do. No harm, no foul, but no more pre-orders, midnight releases, collector's editions or assumptions that their games are good by default.

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If EC fails at what it was meant to do..

Then yeah, I'm going to be quite cautious of anything BioWare in the future. I already know I will definitely not be getting DA3 on release and as much as I love the original ME trilogy (even though the last 10 minutes or so are garbage if the EC doesn't rectify it) anything ME from now on will be looked at very closely, and to be honest I don't think BioWare will continue to make RPG's like we knew them, which disinterests me already.

Also, my Disc 1 of ME3 got scratched, so it's rendered it pretty useless. If the EC fixes things, I will consider buying a new ME3 copy. If it doesn't fix a damn thing, then it's The Witcher 2 all the way!

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No crawling from me.

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I stopped playing ME3 after 1 playthrough and have no interest in going back or even downloading the EC, there are other developers in RPG's and other genre's that are worth my wallet, Bioware is sadly no longer on that list.

It wasn't even just the ending but the MP stuck in and the weak RPG elements that sealed it for me.

I still in enjoy DAO but that's about it.

So I'm done and gone

Modifié par sparkyo42, 25 juin 2012 - 05:47 .


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I can't even play the ME games I have anymore, let alone a new one.