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[TSA_383]

BlahDog wrote...

I would actually prefer him(her) dead in all endings. It would just make more sense.

Honestly, how is it that Shepard survived the destroy canister explosion, the shockwave from the destroy beam, the Citadel explosion, the vaccum of space, the decent through the atmosphere, and the impact of earth. If the only thing they come up with is "mass effect shields," I will be extremely disappointed.

[Chaotic-Fusion]

Showing us that Shepard's alive only for him to bleed to death a few seconds later would be horribly misleading, but then they may be afraid that this scene is drawing people away from Walters' incredibly artistic Synthesis ending.

[Xavendithas]

sporeian wrote...

Xavendithas wrote...

sporeian wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

^ For the last ****ing time. The last ****ing time.

The game files say he is alive.

Yes, but WHY would they keep hime alive in that ending if there's no sequel, no closure, and no reason?

BECAUSE IT WAS AN EASTER EGG!

Because beating Halo 3 on legendary and seeing Master Chief still alive didn't lead to a Halo 4?

Wait, what?

true, but In Halo 3, you didn't destroy the main source of inter-planetary travel creating a doomsday scenario of starvation and pilaging

I know. The point is that Bungie claimed that Halo 3 was going to be the end of the Halo story arc. Then they throw an easter egg in that shows the main character still alive and waiting to fight.

Now Halo 4 is coming out.

Just because they say Shepards story is done isn't really reason to believe we won't see a Mass Effect 4.

[ZackG312]

Taboo-XX wrote...

^ For the last ****ing time. The last ****ing time.

The game files say he is alive.

dont waste your time with morons,

the files say Shepard Male/Female alive

the body is meant to be Shepard, not some random dude that we havent met.

and I think the body and voice change based on the gender of your Shepard

Modifié par ZackG312, 25 juin 2012 - 08:42 .

[Tiger]

scyphozoa wrote...

I've always been surprised that people thought this scene indicated Shep was alive. I viewed it as getting to see Shep take his final gasp of breath before dying.

So Shepard survived the Citadel blowing up, re-entering Earth's atmosphere, and crashing in London?

Makes sense.

[RADIUMEYEZ]

Menalaos1971 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Menalaos1971 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

^ For the last ****ing time. The last ****ing time.

The game files say he is alive.

Bioware lied to us repeatedly before the release of the game, so why would I believe the BS that they wrote in some CE booklet?

It. Is. On. The. Game. Disc.

The. File. Is. Called. Shepard. Alive.

Get with the program before you come in here and start alarming people.

I'll concede one point to you.  Yes, at that second, Shepard is taking a breath, and only a living person would be doing that.  However, only for that second is he still alive.  He'll either be bleeding out from all of his injuries (before and after the Citadel blew up in his face) or from dehydration as he lay trapped in the rubble with no hope of being found or rescued.  Shepard is therefore DEAD.

BTW, you're awfully angry about being so wrong about this.  There's nothing wrong with being proven wrong.  Accept it, and move on.

You didn't prove anyone wrong.

[TSA_383]

scyphozoa wrote...

I've always been surprised that people thought this scene indicated Shep was alive. I viewed it as getting to see Shep take his final gasp of breath before dying.

Now...hmmmm....why would people possibly think that?


Oh... Right.

[Menalaos1971]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Nice fallacy there. You have no idea what is happening because of a lack of contextual information.

Perspicacity is not your strong suit, and for that I should be grateful. He can be found just as easily as Bioware wishes him to. You assume that he will just be left there to rot.

Well, we can agree that the ending certainly was lacking in contextual information.

So, more space magic?  How are they going to find Shepard, buried under rubble, in a blown up Citadel where it's pieces are either spreading through Earth orbit or entering the atmosphere, in a part of the Citadel that no person has ever been to?  The place is filled with corpses.  Even if they gathered what was left of the fleet and started an immediate search, the odds of Shepard being found, before bleeding out or dying of dehydration, where no one would know to look are astronomical.

[Taboo]

Shepard is on the Citadel. Pay attention to what the Devs are saying or don't say anything at all.

The Citadel arms have things that will buffer a fall if it happens. PAY ATTENTION.

[sporeian]

Xavendithas wrote...

I know. The point is that Bungie claimed that Halo 3 was going to be the end of the Halo story arc. Then they throw an easter egg in that shows the main character still alive and waiting to fight.

Now Halo 4 is coming out.

Just because they say Shepards story is done isn't really reason to believe we won't see a Mass Effect 4.

Yeah, but Mass Effect 4 will either take place before the Mass Effect Triliogy or way in the future, like the elder scrolls games.

[Taboo]

Menalaos1971 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Nice fallacy there. You have no idea what is happening because of a lack of contextual information.

Perspicacity is not your strong suit, and for that I should be grateful. He can be found just as easily as Bioware wishes him to. You assume that he will just be left there to rot.

Well, we can agree that the ending certainly was lacking in contextual information.

So, more space magic?  How are they going to find Shepard, buried under rubble, in a blown up Citadel where it's pieces are either spreading through Earth orbit or entering the atmosphere, in a part of the Citadel that no person has ever been to?  The place is filled with corpses.  Even if they gathered what was left of the fleet and started an immediate search, the odds of Shepard being found, before bleeding out or dying of dehydration, where no one would know to look are astronomical.

You forget one thing. I'm not going to tell you, because you should be able to figure it out by yourself.

[RADIUMEYEZ]

TSA_383 wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

I've always been surprised that people thought this scene indicated Shep was alive. I viewed it as getting to see Shep take his final gasp of breath before dying.

Now...hmmmm....why would people possibly think that?


Oh... Right.

There you go everyone.

[FellishBeast]

scyphozoa wrote...

I've always been surprised that people thought this scene indicated Shep was alive. I viewed it as getting to see Shep take his final gasp of breath before dying.

Good catch! BioWare going out of their way to make a final scene for people who have the highest EMS that shows Shepard die of breathing. Brilliant take!  (the sunglasses are to shield my eyes from your brilliance)

[ucdcsteve]

Taboo-XX wrote...

If they intended him to die in all the endings they wouldn't have included a file on the ****ing disc entitled Shepard Alive.

Think people.

It's also in the bloody players guide.  Shepard's alive in that breathing scene. I just hope they don't do something awful and say s(he) died of blood loss before the rescue team could find her/him.  That would really burn my biscuits. 

[Xavendithas]

sporeian wrote...

Xavendithas wrote...

I know. The point is that Bungie claimed that Halo 3 was going to be the end of the Halo story arc. Then they throw an easter egg in that shows the main character still alive and waiting to fight.

Now Halo 4 is coming out.

Just because they say Shepards story is done isn't really reason to believe we won't see a Mass Effect 4.

Yeah, but Mass Effect 4 will either take place before the Mass Effect Triliogy or way in the future, like the elder scrolls games.

We will have to wait and see. I only wanted to point out that writing off something important like the breath scene because it's an easter egg is silly. That scene could very well lead to another game involving Shepard.

[Tiger]

Of course Shepard is alive, its funny how people think its his "last breath" when he would've died when the Citadel blew up.

[Menalaos1971]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Shepard is on the Citadel. Pay attention to what the Devs are saying or don't say anything at all.

The Citadel arms have things that will buffer a fall if it happens. PAY ATTENTION.

I paid attention to what the devs said before they released ME3 and look what that got me.  Hugely disappointed.  The devs lie.  Casey Hudson is a liar.  Pat Weekes is a liar.  Mac Walters is a terrible writer.

You feel free to attack anyone that isn't cheering for Bioware all you want, but don' expect me to care if you don't like.

[RADIUMEYEZ]

Menalaos1971 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Shepard is on the Citadel. Pay attention to what the Devs are saying or don't say anything at all.

The Citadel arms have things that will buffer a fall if it happens. PAY ATTENTION.

I paid attention to what the devs said before they released ME3 and look what that got me.  Hugely disappointed.  The devs lie.  Casey Hudson is a liar.  Pat Weekes is a liar.  Mac Walters is a terrible writer.

You feel free to attack anyone that isn't cheering for Bioware all you want, but don' expect me to care if you don't like.

He's not cheering for Bioware he is just stating facts.

[Taboo]

Menalaos1971 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Shepard is on the Citadel. Pay attention to what the Devs are saying or don't say anything at all.

The Citadel arms have things that will buffer a fall if it happens. PAY ATTENTION.

I paid attention to what the devs said before they released ME3 and look what that got me.  Hugely disappointed.  The devs lie.  Casey Hudson is a liar.  Pat Weekes is a liar.  Mac Walters is a terrible writer.

You feel free to attack anyone that isn't cheering for Bioware all you want, but don' expect me to care if you don't like.

You are suggesting what EVERYONE already knows. But you are bitter and angry and have let it muddle with your thought process.

Wait and see what happens.

[sporeian]

Xavendithas wrote...

sporeian wrote...

Xavendithas wrote...

I know. The point is that Bungie claimed that Halo 3 was going to be the end of the Halo story arc. Then they throw an easter egg in that shows the main character still alive and waiting to fight.

Now Halo 4 is coming out.

Just because they say Shepards story is done isn't really reason to believe we won't see a Mass Effect 4.

Yeah, but Mass Effect 4 will either take place before the Mass Effect Triliogy or way in the future, like the elder scrolls games.

We will have to wait and see. I only wanted to point out that writing off something important like the breath scene because it's an easter egg is silly. That scene could very well lead to another game involving Shepard.

I honestly don't know what they intended with this ending, and its been about 4 months since the game came out!

[Zaidra]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Marketing strategies would make me assume that if it is removed, it is because they will have another scenario play out in it's stead. That is to say there will be no need for the scene if Shepard is alive in a cutscene. It would be innocuous.

This is the most sensible response on this thread. 

[Xavendithas]

sporeian wrote...

Xavendithas wrote...

sporeian wrote...

Xavendithas wrote...

I know. The point is that Bungie claimed that Halo 3 was going to be the end of the Halo story arc. Then they throw an easter egg in that shows the main character still alive and waiting to fight.

Now Halo 4 is coming out.

Just because they say Shepards story is done isn't really reason to believe we won't see a Mass Effect 4.

Yeah, but Mass Effect 4 will either take place before the Mass Effect Triliogy or way in the future, like the elder scrolls games.

We will have to wait and see. I only wanted to point out that writing off something important like the breath scene because it's an easter egg is silly. That scene could very well lead to another game involving Shepard.

I honestly don't know what they intended with this ending, and its been about 4 months since the game came out!

Patience. See what the EC brings.

I have a suspicion they have some DLC they are waiting to release around the same time as the Earth multiplayer DLC. We will have our answers in the next 2 months.

[eran5005]

well, if they remove it without giving something else along that line i will be furious, and if they keep the breath scene without giving it ANY attention the epilogue i'll be so angry i'll probably have blood shooting out of my ears
No way in hell they will give closure without addressing the most important consequence of having the highest EMS and making a very specific choice! And if there is a way they would do it, then everything i ever thought i knew about BioWare as my favorite game developer is a lie.

[Peranor]

Ok ok. I think we can all agree (well, most of us at least) that the breath scene indicates that Shepard is in fact alive.

What I want to know is HOW THE HELL DID HE/SHE SURVIVE TO BEGIN WITH??
If the EC just answers that single question without involving space magic I'm happy. Ok maybe not happy. But at least I can put this to rest and move on.

Modifié par anorling, 25 juin 2012 - 08:56 .