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[Menalaos1971]

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

Menalaos1971 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Shepard is on the Citadel. Pay attention to what the Devs are saying or don't say anything at all.

The Citadel arms have things that will buffer a fall if it happens. PAY ATTENTION.

I paid attention to what the devs said before they released ME3 and look what that got me.  Hugely disappointed.  The devs lie.  Casey Hudson is a liar.  Pat Weekes is a liar.  Mac Walters is a terrible writer.

You feel free to attack anyone that isn't cheering for Bioware all you want, but don' expect me to care if you don't like.

He's not cheering for Bioware he is just stating facts.

I disagree with the conclusion that he is drawing from those "facts".  Yes, the PC file for that scene is called Shepard Alive.  Yes, that is Shepard taking a breath.  So, yes, at the moment Shepard is alive.  No one is arguing that.  It is purely his assumption, however, that Shepard stays alive after that scene, though.  There are no "facts" either way.  Based on the facts that we do know though, that Shepard is wounded and bleeding, buried under rubble, in a blown up Citadel in Earth orbit, in a place inside the Citadel that no person has ever been to before, I am making what I believe is a rather realistic assumption that Shepard dies under that rubble after that scene.  It is far more likely than Shepard being randomly found and rescued.

[covertdrizzt]

I think they will show someone helping shepard out of the rubble. I don't know where people get that shepard dies in that ending. They're not changing the ending, so shepard is ALIVE.

[RoamerZA]

You can get all the endings except Shepard's breathing without playing MP.
Bioware are saying the are adjusting the required ems so you can get all the endings without playing mp.
So, if that is the case, the are changing the required ems level to get the breathing scene, so therefore they can not be ignoring it in the DLC.

If I am wrong, and they do ignore it, I am finished with Bioware. That would make the current endings the 2nd worst endings in gaming history.

[myrmedon419]

BlahDog wrote...

I would actually prefer him(her) dead in all endings. It would just make more sense.

Honestly, how is it that Shepard survived the destroy canister explosion, the shockwave from the destroy beam, the Citadel explosion, the vaccum of space, the decent through the atmosphere, and the impact of earth. If the only thing they come up with is "mass effect shields," I will be extremely disappointed.

Well, in ME2 there was a dead reaper with a hole through it, several million years old, still suspended by a ME field. The reapers built the citadel... So as dissapointing as that would be, it would still be plausible in the ME lore.

Then again, it's not they haven't abandoned it already with the DNA mixer machine... oh well. My last speculation post before EC.

Modifié par myrmedon419, 25 juin 2012 - 09:02 .

[Taboo]

Menalaos1971 wrote...
It is far more likely than Shepard being randomly found and rescued.

Not sure if serious. 

This IS a video game after all.

[Menalaos1971]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Menalaos1971 wrote...
It is far more likely than Shepard being randomly found and rescued.

Not sure if serious. 

This IS a video game after all.

Reading your responses again I'm starting to get the feeling that you're one of those IT guys.  Is that what you're insinuating?  That the EC is setting us up for the IT ending later or something?

Modifié par Menalaos1971, 25 juin 2012 - 09:06 .

[Taboo]

Menalaos1971 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Menalaos1971 wrote...
It is far more likely than Shepard being randomly found and rescued.

Not sure if serious. 

This IS a video game after all.

Reading your responses again I'm starting to get the feeling that you're one of those IT guys.  Is that what you're insinuating?  That the EC is setting us up for the IT ending later or something?

Uh, no, but from your posts I'm assuming you're one of those "all hope is lost" kind of people who come in here and are sullen all the time.

The IT has always been nonsense.

[Menalaos1971]

Taboo-XX wrote...
Uh, no, but from your posts I'm assuming you're one of those "all hope is lost" kind of people who come in here and are sullen all the time.

The IT has always been nonsense.

But isn't that what Casey and Mac wanted?  Speculation for everyone.  Why is your speculation more valid than anyone else's when we have next to no actual facts to go on, and the ones we do have are contradictory and introduce massive plot holes?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Shepard is NOT in London taking that breath. Shepard is still on the Citadel. The Citadel has kinetic barriers. Also let us not forget the upgrades that Miranda put in to hold Shepard's skeleton together. Those were not reaper tech. Some may have been derived from it, but it was not reaper tech.

Shepard has synthetic bone weaves which make breaking bones nearly impossible and improve healing; muscle weaves which give superior strength without adding bulk and improve healing; skin weaves which make penetration difficult and improve healing. I think there were one or two of each available in ME2. And if you researched these, you had them done by Dr. Chakwas and Mordin in Med Bay. These are not cybernetics.

Shepard also has standard cybernetic + additional cybernetic augmentations.

It is not difficult for Shepard to survive.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 25 juin 2012 - 09:13 .

[Necrotron]

They said they are not going to debunk indoc theory, so leaving it as is seems the most likely situation.

[Peranor]

Menalaos1971 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
Uh, no, but from your posts I'm assuming you're one of those "all hope is lost" kind of people who come in here and are sullen all the time.

The IT has always been nonsense.

But isn't that what Casey and Mac wanted?  Speculation for everyone.  Why is your speculation more valid than anyone else's when we have next to no actual facts to go on, and the ones we do have are contradictory and introduce massive plot holes?

This is true.

I think they wanted us to speculate if Shepard was going to bleed out or just starve to death before he was found in the rubble (If found at all). Maybe half eaten by starving stray dogs and other animals looking for food. His corpse was probably so mutilated that the only way to identify him was through his genetic markers.

The sight of his desecrated corpse was most likely such a horrid sight that his LI probably killed her/himself shortly thereafter.

Can't have a happy ending after all. That wouldn't be artistic.

Modifié par anorling, 25 juin 2012 - 09:19 .

[Kunari801]

anorling wrote...

Menalaos1971 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
Uh, no, but from your posts I'm assuming you're one of those "all hope is lost" kind of people who come in here and are sullen all the time.

The IT has always been nonsense.

But isn't that what Casey and Mac wanted?  Speculation for everyone.  Why is your speculation more valid than anyone else's when we have next to no actual facts to go on, and the ones we do have are contradictory and introduce massive plot holes?

This is true.

I think they wanted us to speculate if Shepard was going to bleed out or just starve to death before he was found in the rubble (If found at all). Maybe half eaten by starving stray dogs and other animals looking for food. His corpse was probably so mutilated that the only way to identify him was through his genetic markers.

The sight of his desecrated corpse was most likely such a horrid sight that his LI probably killed her/himself shortly thereafter.

Can't have a happy ending after all. That wouldn't be artistic.

No, Shepard was still on the Citadel... so he'd be Keeper food.   


He wasn't in London, he was on the Citadel and will be rescued, there are people still on the Citadel or Hackett would send a S&R team.   Sure Shepard is hurt and maybe will be in a coma for awhile but he'll pull through and reunite with Kaidan. 

[Menalaos1971]

anorling, I like the way you think.

[gpost]

DarthShadow13 wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

I've always been surprised that people thought this scene indicated Shep was alive. I viewed it as getting to see Shep take his final gasp of breath before dying.

So Shepard survived the Citadel blowing up, re-entering Earth's atmosphere, and crashing in London?

Makes sense.

the reason people beleive him to be alive is that the file name for the video is something along the lines of SHEP_END_ALIVE

[devSin]

Taboo-XX wrote...

You forget one thing. I'm not going to tell you, because you should be able to figure it out by yourself.

How wrong is it that when I read this my immediate unthinking response was "Indoctrination?"

Lord in Heaven, it's inside my brain!

[Taboo]

devSin wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

You forget one thing. I'm not going to tell you, because you should be able to figure it out by yourself.

How wrong is it that when I read this my immediate unthinking response was "Indoctrination?"

Lord in Heaven, it's inside my brain!

No. Thankfully. The IT is not it.

THANKFULLY.

[Peranor]

Dead or alive, or alive and dead the next second. I just want to know HOW he/she survived in the first place.

Modifié par anorling, 25 juin 2012 - 09:40 .

[JamieCOTC]

Shepard will live in destroy ending. 

[Taboo]

Fix the link please.

[Uncle Jo]

myrmedon419 wrote...


Well, in ME2 there was a dead reaper with a hole through it, several million years old, still suspended by a ME field. The reapers built the citadel... So as dissapointing as that would be, it would still be plausible in the ME lore.

*snip*

No.
Even if the mass effect shields protected Shep from the citadels explosion and the atmosphere re-entry. no way they did the same when the tank exploded. He took it at point blank range, without armor or shields on.

[MongoNYC]

MarchWaltz wrote...

I have a feeling they are going to remove it since they can not explain it.

Amateurs.

And it's not like a group of superfans basically handed them an explanation, after laboriously going through every part of the game that did not make any sense, that pretty much fills in just about every plot hole they created.

<cough> Indoctrination Theory <cough>

Too obvious?

[Taboo]

Uncle Jo wrote...

myrmedon419 wrote...


Well, in ME2 there was a dead reaper with a hole through it, several million years old, still suspended by a ME field. The reapers built the citadel... So as dissapointing as that would be, it would still be plausible in the ME lore.

*snip*

No.
Even if the mass effect shields protected Shep from the citadels explosion and the atmosphere re-entry. no way they did the same when the tank exploded. He took it at point blank range, without armor or shields on.

I believe you underestimate the power of suspension of disbelief.

[Peranor]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Shepard will live in destroy ending. 

Link broken.
But anyway. Jessica's tweets has proven to not be the most reliable source of information during this debacle.

[Uncle Jo]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

myrmedon419 wrote...


Well, in ME2 there was a dead reaper with a hole through it, several million years old, still suspended by a ME field. The reapers built the citadel... So as dissapointing as that would be, it would still be plausible in the ME lore.

*snip*

No.
Even if the mass effect shields protected Shep from the citadels explosion and the atmosphere re-entry. no way they did the same when the tank exploded. He took it at point blank range, without armor or shields on.

I believe you underestimate the power of suspension of disbelief.

It's not suspension of disbelief, it's suspension of thinking.

[Taboo]

Uncle Jo wrote...

It's not suspension of disbelief, it's suspension of thinking.

And it's probably going to be that way.