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[Kunari801]

Uncle Jo wrote...

myrmedon419 wrote...


Well, in ME2 there was a dead reaper with a hole through it, several million years old, still suspended by a ME field. The reapers built the citadel... So as dissapointing as that would be, it would still be plausible in the ME lore.

*snip*

No.
Even if the mass effect shields protected Shep from the citadels explosion and the atmosphere re-entry. no way they did the same when the tank exploded. He took it at point blank range, without armor or shields on.

He was close but not *that* close and who's to say they don't change that in the EC.   

Fact is, Shepard took a breath at the end of Destroy if your EMS was high enough.  

Modifié par Kunari801, 25 juin 2012 - 09:59 .

[Menalaos1971]

Kunari801 wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

myrmedon419 wrote...


Well, in ME2 there was a dead reaper with a hole through it, several million years old, still suspended by a ME field. The reapers built the citadel... So as dissapointing as that would be, it would still be plausible in the ME lore.

*snip*

No.
Even if the mass effect shields protected Shep from the citadels explosion and the atmosphere re-entry. no way they did the same when the tank exploded. He took it at point blank range, without armor or shields on.

He was close but not *that* close and who's to say they don't change that in the EC.   

Fact is, Shepard took a breath at the end of Destroy if your EMS was high enough.  

They've already said they're not changing the ending.  Only clarifying it and providing closure.

[Uncle Jo]

Kunari801 wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

myrmedon419 wrote...


Well, in ME2 there was a dead reaper with a hole through it, several million years old, still suspended by a ME field. The reapers built the citadel... So as dissapointing as that would be, it would still be plausible in the ME lore.

*snip*

No.
Even if the mass effect shields protected Shep from the citadels explosion and the atmosphere re-entry. no way they did the same when the tank exploded. He took it at point blank range, without armor or shields on.

He was close but not *that* close and who's to say they don't change that in the EC.   

Fact is, Shepard took a breath at the end of Destroy if your EMS was high enough.  

Playing with words won't change anything. And I'm fully aware that Shep took a breath and survived. Problem is : Where ?

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 25 juin 2012 - 10:02 .

[Taboo]

He isn't playing with words. Nothing he says is incorrect. You can clarify that Shepard survives and not change the ending.

OR DID EVERYONE ELSE MISS THE NEW EMS REQUIREMENT!?!

EGAD. IT'S NOW BEEN CHANGED TO 3100.

[covertdrizzt]

Uncle Jo wrote...

myrmedon419 wrote...


Well, in ME2 there was a dead reaper with a hole through it, several million years old, still suspended by a ME field. The reapers built the citadel... So as dissapointing as that would be, it would still be plausible in the ME lore.

*snip*

No.
Even if the mass effect shields protected Shep from the citadels explosion and the atmosphere re-entry. no way they did the same when the tank exploded. He took it at point blank range, without armor or shields on.

biotic barrier      If you can headcannon a way for shepard to die then anyone can do the opposite.

[Kunari801]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

myrmedon419 wrote...


Well, in ME2 there was a dead reaper with a hole through it, several million years old, still suspended by a ME field. The reapers built the citadel... So as dissapointing as that would be, it would still be plausible in the ME lore.

*snip*

No.
Even if the mass effect shields protected Shep from the citadels explosion and the atmosphere re-entry. no way they did the same when the tank exploded. He took it at point blank range, without armor or shields on.

He was close but not *that* close and who's to say they don't change that in the EC.   

Fact is, Shepard took a breath at the end of Destroy if your EMS was high enough.  

Playing with words won't change anything. And I'm fully aware that Shep took a breath and survived. Problem is : Where ?

"Playing with words"?  

Ok, grammar error aside there was no "playing with words", so I'll just repeat:   Fact is, Shepard (takes) a breath at the end of Destroy if your EMS was high enough. 

Modifié par Kunari801, 25 juin 2012 - 10:11 .

[ghost9191]

that is assuming the citadel was in decay, as in falling to earth . but it could just sit there with the arms, which they all ready confirmed that people can survive because of the ME fields. as for the explosion, shepard has survived worse, so he would get knocked on his ass and a little burnt, he will walk it off , or she

[devSin]

I personally don't think the designers even cared. It's the wreckage of the Citadel or of London, but only because they were working with the models for those levels at the same time.

Shepard survived. He's in no-place, but he's alive. Not because he survived but because they decided he didn't die.

BioWare storytelling! But I have a hard time caring about the particulars too, so I guess I can't fault them that much.

Modifié par devSin, 25 juin 2012 - 10:19 .

[christrek1982]

krukow wrote...

BlahDog wrote...

I would actually prefer him(her) dead in all endings. It would just make more sense.

Honestly, how is it that Shepard survived the destroy canister explosion, the shockwave from the destroy beam, the Citadel explosion, the vaccum of space, the decent through the atmosphere, and the impact of earth. If the only thing they come up with is "mass effect shields," I will be extremely disappointed.

Well then you have 15 "different" endings to enjoy. 

Let us have our one.

well said!  let us have one ending that is worth playing the game for sheps death just kill the whole thing fior me I see no point in playing such a deep game from the very beginning if all I have to look forwerd to at the end is see my shepard who I have played for 80-100 hour die in a stupid and non sense way.

[myrmedon419]

We can always take the body to a cerberus lab and resurrect him a second time? Surely Shepard's efforts in saving all space faring life earns him unlimited resources to bring him back from the dead... again. (now that would be a disappointing explanation)

[Barict78]

I want SHepard alive as much as the next guy but really guys? he somehow survives the "destroy" thingy blowing up in ur face the citadel exploding and the vacuum of space and atmospheric reentry and planetary impact... Its not as if hes the frakkin Incredible Hulk here. But with as much sense as the end makes he may as well shoot the tube, Put on Tights and a cape and fly out of the Citadel whilst simultainously shooting Lasers from his eyes and growing to the Size of a reaper Cap ship. Once he grows to that size then he can punch all the Reapers in their nutz and win without the Crucible.

[Iakus]

Barict78 wrote...

I want SHepard alive as much as the next guy but really guys? he somehow survives the "destroy" thingy blowing up in ur face the citadel exploding and the vacuum of space and atmospheric reentry and planetary impact... Its not as if hes the frakkin Incredible Hulk here. But with as much sense as the end makes he may as well shoot the tube, Put on Tights and a cape and fly out of the Citadel whilst simultainously shooting Lasers from his eyes and growing to the Size of a reaper Cap ship. Once he grows to that size then he can punch all the Reapers in their nutz and win without the Crucible.

This is the same game that lets Shepard jump into a giant green laser of space magics to turn everyone half-synthetic.

There's enough space magic to let Shepard survive the explosion in Destroy.

Now, is there enough space magic to keep Bioware from playing up Synthesis as the "best ending"?

[Aaleel]

I want to see the reaction if this turns out to be true.



If Shepard wakes up on the Citadel in the EC, oh my.

The scene never made sense to me under any interpretation of the ending. Doesn't make sense for Shepard to be on the Citadel, doesn't make sense for Shepard to be on Earth. The scene is just horrible.

[Iakus]

Aaleel wrote...

I want to see the reaction if this turns out to be true.



If Shepard wakes up on the Citadel in the EC, oh my.

The scene never made sense to me under any interpretation of the ending. Doesn't make sense for Shepard to be on the Citadel, doesn't make sense for Shepard to be on Earth. The scene is just horrible.

To be fair, almost nothing after the beam made sense anyway 

[Barict78]

iakus wrote...

Barict78 wrote...

I want SHepard alive as much as the next guy but really guys? he somehow survives the "destroy" thingy blowing up in ur face the citadel exploding and the vacuum of space and atmospheric reentry and planetary impact... Its not as if hes the frakkin Incredible Hulk here. But with as much sense as the end makes he may as well shoot the tube, Put on Tights and a cape and fly out of the Citadel whilst simultainously shooting Lasers from his eyes and growing to the Size of a reaper Cap ship. Once he grows to that size then he can punch all the Reapers in their nutz and win without the Crucible.

This is the same game that lets Shepard jump into a giant green laser of space magics to turn everyone half-synthetic.

There's enough space magic to let Shepard survive the explosion in Destroy.

Now, is there enough space magic to keep Bioware from playing up Synthesis as the "best ending"?

True enuf my friend True enuf lol. And ya i dont see how people dont get that to BW Synthesis is the "best" ending ... if it wasnt it would be there at all times not only under certain circumstances. And its how they best push the whole Adam and Eve thing. But to me Synthesis is abhorrent . Homogonizing the Galaxy is no solution. What kinda message does that Send? We must make everything like us, and if its different Kill it!

[Barict78]

Aaleel wrote...

I want to see the reaction if this turns out to be true.



If Shepard wakes up on the Citadel in the EC, oh my.

The scene never made sense to me under any interpretation of the ending. Doesn't make sense for Shepard to be on the Citadel, doesn't make sense for Shepard to be on Earth. The scene is just horrible.

Ya none of it makes any sense and i truly think the whole Breath thing is just an easter egg for completionists and doesnt mean anything really. cuz its quite clear they want SHepard to die at the end. But as u say neither thing makes sense he cannot possibly survive all that and planetary reentry and impact . But neither does it make sense for him to be on a citadel that just blew up so meh who knows. well see tomorro thats what i do know! lol

[Kick In The Door]

 I think they'll add additional clarity to the scene. Remember as much as we weren't happy with the ending of ME3, Bioware is the same company that brought us the masterfully told ME1 and ME2, not to mention their other titles. They CAN do this....they just have a really hard time with endings..
If you go into the EC with an already negative attitude, you're gonna have a bad time.

[Peranor]

Aaleel wrote...

I want to see the reaction if this turns out to be true.



If Shepard wakes up on the Citadel in the EC, oh my.

The scene never made sense to me under any interpretation of the ending. Doesn't make sense for Shepard to be on the Citadel, doesn't make sense for Shepard to be on Earth. The scene is just horrible.

Correct me if I'm wrong. But isn't  one of the Indoctrination theorys building blocks that Shepeard never left earth and the "shepard lives" scene is Shepard waking up in the rubble of London a while after getting blasted by Harby?

If the EC confirms that the place Shepard wakes up on is in fact the Citadel that could be seen as a major blow against that theory.

[CashGrab]

What is the point of the scenly? They have said they won't or are unlikely to do anything post me3 in the timeline and yet leave a plotpoint like this that they have admitted indirectly will never be explored. I can only assume is a form of marketing designed to get fans to stay tuned to mass effect games in future in the hope they might continue from that point; which they cannot as it will be non-canonising the other endings and that is simply going to lead to great strife.