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[Tokenusername]

Tyeme Downs wrote...

I feel your pain. However, all the gun toters think casters should only be there to support their shooting mooks faster.

But...casters are support.

Without BEs and TB they would have no reliable high damage abiltys and be mostly for weakening unit defences.

[Trakarg]

Hey, look, everyone! This person doesn't know how to deal with phantoms.

[Adhok42]

Tokenusername wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...
A Phantom weights what? 90 pounds?

What do you think she's like 12 years old?

My GF is early twenties and she weighs that much. She's about the same build as a Phantom too.

[Tokenusername]

Adhok42 wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...
A Phantom weights what? 90 pounds?

What do you think she's like 12 years old?

My GF is early twenties and she weighs that much. She's about the same build as a Phantom too.

Eat a sammich then, ****!
That ain't healthy.

Modifié par Tokenusername, 25 juin 2012 - 10:36 .

[Trakarg]

Air Quotes wrote...

Trakarg wrote...

Hey, look, everyone! This person doesn't know how to deal with phantoms.

I know how to deal with Phantoms. But they force you into cliche loadouts. 

With Reave?  Lol. Just spam reave.  They can't block it, and you can just take cover when it's on cooldown.

[Adhok42]

Tokenusername wrote...

Adhok42 wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...
A Phantom weights what? 90 pounds?

What do you think she's like 12 years old?

My GF is early twenties and she weighs that much. She's about the same build as a Phantom too.

Eat a sammwich then, ****!
That ain't healthy.

That's what I keep telling her. Still I'm barely 145 myself despite eating more then a football player.

Fast metabolism is a curse I tell you! CUUURRRRRRRRRSSSSSSEEEEEE!!!!

[Chealec]

Air Quotes wrote...

They do stagger when ED hits them. And Reaves damage is nothing special at all. 6 seconds to do 700 damage? Really? 1 Paladin bullet does more in a second. ANd there is NO way to relaibly detonate Phantoms if you don't have Stasis. 

It's not a Phantom nerf. It's a slight Reave buff. I mean there are weapons that stagger with EVERY shot. What's the problem with Reave stagger? It's not gonna be easier. It would just give you time to get back in cover or run. 

Reave stacks though and hits multiple targets - apart from Stasis / Headshot it's the quickest biotic power to take down Phantoms bearing in mind how often they dodge/block warp and throw...

(as an aside, Sabotage doesn't stagger Phantoms either - and doesn't even do them a huge amount of damage since the nerf)

[Trakarg]

Air Quotes wrote...

Trakarg wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Trakarg wrote...

Hey, look, everyone! This person doesn't know how to deal with phantoms.

I know how to deal with Phantoms. But they force you into cliche loadouts. 

With Reave?  Lol. Just spam reave.  They can't block it, and you can just take cover when it's on cooldown.

Right. Your'e a genius. I never thought of that. Probleme is that they still run at you full speed, you can't detonate them and as soon as you move out of cover to retreat they shoot you. 

Look, I play Gold and people who know me, know that I'm not a scrub and I can handle myself. 

It's just boring to always take GPS, Scorpion or Falcon. 

If you can't reave-kite phantoms, you sound a bit like a scrub to me, sorry.

[Riot Inducer]

Asebstos wrote...

You should take solace in the fact that they can't hand-block Reave like any/all projectile powers (or inferno grenades apparently? noticed that during Savage)

It's not just inferno, it seems that if you hit the grenade anywhere on her sparkle aura it negates it entirely. That right there is something that needs tweaking more than reave affecting her imo. <_<

[bluebomberz]

Unless they snuck up on you or you're completely out in the open, I don't see why they'd be a problem for the DA. If you need to get some breathing room throw a Pull at them to force a dodge or palm barrier and shoot them in the face with your gun. If you get around a corner throw a grenade their way and force the palm barrier, then shoot them in the face with your gun. The second their barrier goes down with your Reave spam you've basically killed them as they go on defense, then you spam Reave some more and shoot them in the face with your gun, If it's gold and your team doesn't suck than chances are someone nearby can and will help with the imminent threat.

[sydsyrious]

A Drell Adept can run faster than a Phantom and dodge her magic gun. Keep circling back around throwing reaves and eventually they will all be dead without even having to use a weapon.....although I still recommend nades as I have much success with blowing them up.

[dddawda]

Geth plasma shotgun is like the best item for DA but i hate that gun

I always go with the "gamble" of reave, grenades and heavy melee

Well if the grenades miss..im ****ed

Modifié par dddawda, 25 juin 2012 - 10:52 .

[mpompeo27]

Talon headshot staggers Phantoms, Graal staggers Phantoms, just enough raw DPS staggers Phantoms. Staggerability is not the issue with Phantoms. It's the hand-cannon-sniper-rile-death-ray.

[essarr71]

So sorry theres an enemy out there youre not creative enough to deal with without getting a completely unneccessary buff. Theres a dozen solutions to your issue, ignoring the fact that for a boss Phantoms suffer from an extreme weakness.

At least ask for like 1k credits every time you use it so everyone gets something out of it.

[Miniditka77]

Air Quotes wrote...

tutzdes wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

Phantoms are boss tier enemies.

The end.

Yeah. So why Stasis works on them? Exactly. They already have too much going for them. Damage, invinsibility, OHK. 

Stasis is specialised crowd-control ability, Reave is AOE high damage DoT. Phantoms don't get stunned by Overload, Sabotage, ED, they just inore most of the projectiles. They are cool. Why Reave should be an exception?

Poor cerberus are already the weakest faction. Nerf the Phantom? No.

They do stagger when ED hits them. And Reaves damage is nothing special at all. 6 seconds to do 700 damage? Really? 1 Paladin bullet does more in a second. ANd there is NO way to relaibly detonate Phantoms if you don't have Stasis. 

It's not a Phantom nerf. It's a slight Reave buff. I mean there are weapons that stagger with EVERY shot. What's the problem with Reave stagger? It's not gonna be easier. It would just give you time to get back in cover or run. 

Stack the Reaves and you will get much more than 700 damage in 6 seconds.  With a Justicar, you can do almost 400 damage per second with 3 reaves stacked (and that's without any bonuses).  Really, I don't know many powers outside of Stasis that deal with Phantoms better than Reave.  I do think the Drell Reave should be buffed to do the same damage as the AJ Reave though.

I'm pretty sure Tech Armor can stagger Phantoms too.

EDIT:  Not saying Reave makes Phantoms easy - they're still a b***h.  Literally and figuratively.

Modifié par Miniditka77, 25 juin 2012 - 10:57 .

[tutzdes]

If you constantly fire at them they assume defensive pose and stop shooting. Reave and a couple of shots often makes them stop running at full speed and forces them to take cover.

Ballistic blades are close-range and are useless for biotic explosions.

The biotic class I used most frequently last week was HSe. And it has no ability to even scratch the Phantom, still i think it's OK. Spam, shoot, force to cover, kill. Multiple phantoms are bad news for almost any class. It should be this way.

[Mgamerz]

Stasis works on them because they have health.

[Orca_]

Instant cast, unavoidable, AOE, increases you damage reduction, sets up and detonates biotic explosions, stacks

and it needs a buff? Are you joking?