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not sure if i posted here, but have some copy paste info on some of the endings. i might touch up on them later, i'm tired as all hell now. if this thread gets BIGLARGEHUGE, then OP can feel free to add this to their 1st post in the thread.



MORE INFO IN REGARDS TO DESTROY ENDING:


*a short clip after the choice is made shows ashley (or your LI) telling joker it's time to go. he looks sad, and they fly off
*asari on thessia are celebrating, krogan on earth/tuchanka are celebrating
*THE MASS RELAY DOESN'T ACTUALLY FALL APART, THE CLOUD JUST ERUPTS, RETCON'D BABY
*the normandy flies off of jungle fever planet after they look around for some reason
*hackett voices some epilogue. still shots of some squad mates are shown. squad mates who died are pointed out in still shots as well.
*squad mates shown (in no particular order, not that it matters) - miranda, jack, jacob, liara, samara, thane, mordin, wrex, grunt, katsumi, zaeed, tali
*quarians are showing standing next to each other. wrex and eve had a baby it seems
*a scene on the normandy happens. ashley (or your LI) holds a name plate in front of the wall in the normandy that has the names of the deceased on it. the plate reads 'commander shepard' (no first name). all of your squad is standing there.
*if you got the 'perfect' ending, then that exact same shot of shepard breathing is shown. it was just moved back.
*cut to credits
*afterwards, the scene with buzz aldrin happens. nothing's changed
*the end message appears to thank you instead of implore you to buy more dlc from them



in summation, IT theory given a nice, big **** YOU, the plot holes are still there, they only retcon'd the relays being destroyed (they're just damaged now), admiral hackett goes bob the builder on us (can we fix it? yes we can!), and you get some still shots.




INFO ON THE CONTROL ENDING:
*same as above, with some exceptions as follows
*instead of hackett voicing the epilouge, IT'S SHEPARD
*shepard is shown in a white light, walking towards the screen slightly
*everything listed above happens. note - in destroy, i can't recall if EDI was there. however, she definitely is in control.
*he says he understands the reapers, and he will now act as a guardian (by controlling the reapers). he says the people who helped him and sacrificed will be watched.

in summation, shepard becomes space jesus h. reaper and he thanks and looks over his apostles. 



INFO ON SYNTHESIS ENDING
*same as destroy, but with these exceptions
*now the star child was created, and then he created the reapers. apparently, star child's creators were the original reapers. i'm totally serious here, it is, in fact, that vague and convoluted. asking more about his creators just gets him to basically say 'IT'S TOO DEEP FOR YOU, BRUH'. again, i'm not making this up. note - i forget if this was mentioned in the other endings, but i know this is an actual thing.
*turians and krogans are celebrating. everyone has green eyes now. think superman heat vision eyes, but green. oh, and everyone gets some kind of green skin pattern.
*EDI narrates. everyone evolved, the line between synthetic and organic is gone, thanks shepard
*ashley (or your LI) hugs EDI on the normandy

in summation, it's kinda like everyone unlocked some new green lantern powers.



so no reconvening with your LI, no house for tali, no drinks with garrus, no candy rave with jack, none of your actual choices are actually addressed, point, blank, period, the end. (note - tali is shown sitting in a room with shutters on a couch. the otuside looks bright. this MIGHT be that house she wanted, but i'm stretching it). squad mates shown could depend on the ending you choose. 


"the storm approaches. we speak no more"

Modifié par TLK Spires, 26 juin 2012 - 12:47 .


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LilyasAvalon wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Alrighty, I'm on the Citadel again!

That was a huge waste of time, thanks guys who kept telling me to start at Cerby base!


Did ANYTHING change at the Cerby base?


Absolutely nothing.

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LilyasAvalon wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

CitadelSurfer wrote...

CONTROL IS THE BEST ENDING SO FAR. Watching Synthesis now. Destroy is more a selfish approach


*GRABS AND SHAKES* TELL US WHAT HAPPENS!!!!!!!

AI Shepard voice-over while images of the Reapers rebuilding the relays and the Citadel, floating around Rannoch, Earth, etc. and then the slideshow from Destroy which has krogan babies and various ME2 squadmates doing... stuff. AI Shepard says he's going to be the immortal guardian of the living and never forget the sacrifices made so that everyone else could live.


... What about Shepard's poor LI?

... Wait, did I hear Krogan babies!? ARE THEY ADORABLE!? :o


Krogan baies are too cute.

Modifié par Vikali, 26 juin 2012 - 12:13 .


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I liked the synthesis ending >.>

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Vikali wrote...
They implied they find living Shepard. Peole apparently have to be spoon fed the scenes rather than imagining it.


Thank you very much! They implied a whole lot of things..THIS is a videogame, you should show people some stuff! Hell, I can imagine the whole ME-series in my head if I will and don't need to play the game!

But whatever...*shakeshead*

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KironDrayga wrote...
...Since when did *Garrus* of all characters give a damn about the odds, or whether a situation's unwinnable? He'd follow you straight into hell if given the chance. 
Your squadmates *promised* you they had your back in the final mission, win or lose, live or die.


Well, Garrus willing to die instantly for Shep ? I don't doubt it. However, I'm not sure it's totally like Garrus to take a chance that big and willingly sacrifice the whole crew of the normandy (no matter what they think) even though he's 99% sure Shepard is lost. He's a natural born leader, and he's already lost a team, it doesn't seem likely to me that he would sacrifice another one for one person, no matter who that person is. Same goes for the other LIs... (imo anyway).

Modifié par Aloren, 26 juin 2012 - 12:15 .


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ME4 (with the control ending in ME3)...Galaxy vs. Shepard!!!

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I found the extended cut really satisfying.
I can truly say I love the ending of ME3 now. Sounds weird.
Also, that SPOILER secret ending SPOILER was really unexpected. I didn't even mean to get it.
The new-ish stargazer scene makes it sound like there is Mass Effect 4, for sure now.

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Arppis wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Okay, let's go on the thesis, that, while I'm still pissed off, I have enough information to headcanon a more or less decent ending now...

WHY THE HELL WASN'T THIS CLARIFICATION INCLUDED IN THE FIRST PLACE!?

Why not show Hackett ordering all fleets to flee!? Why just assume the player will know why Joker is abandoning them?!


I think because they thought people could connect the dots by themselves... and propably because they were time and money constrats.


That actually makes a lot of sense, knowing EA.

Especially when you consider just how much 'garbage' audio files are actually in the game files still. Stuff that was SUPPOSED to be included in the ending, but for whatever reason, was left out. Plus, there's still the script, which mentioned that the ending was supposed to be like the final mission in ME2.

*Sigh* Not happy, but not angry. Guess we'll just sit around and wait for that Omega DLC now...

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You know you want to shoot him in the head.
Ahahah, dialogue wheel > " I want details." - NO I DON'T, I want to shoot you in the head!

Modifié par Mimitochan, 26 juin 2012 - 12:15 .


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LilyasAvalon wrote...

... Wait, did I hear Krogan babies!? ARE THEY ADORABLE!? :o

SPOILER!

Yes.

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can someone upload the extended cut..

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SomeKindaEnigma

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There's definitely going to be a ME4. The galaxy seems to return to normal for the most part after each of the endings

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

CitadelSurfer wrote...

CONTROL IS THE BEST ENDING SO FAR. Watching Synthesis now. Destroy is more a selfish approach


*GRABS AND SHAKES* TELL US WHAT HAPPENS!!!!!!!

AI Shepard voice-over while images of the Reapers rebuilding the relays and the Citadel, floating around Rannoch, Earth, etc. and then the slideshow from Destroy which has krogan babies and various ME2 squadmates doing... stuff. AI Shepard says he's going to be the immortal guardian of the living and never forget the sacrifices made so that everyone else could live.


and then we see the stargazer scene, but no reapers or anything there. you'd think they'd still be around.


Oh yeah, they should add Reapers playing volleyball there.

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

... Wait, did I hear Krogan babies!? ARE THEY ADORABLE!? :o

SPOILER!

Yes.


Ughh is that WREAV? Yuck.

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TullyAckland wrote...

You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together.


I'm sorry, Tully; I'm sure some of you at Bioware meant well by this, but it's still truly ridiculous.

Unless there's some plan by Bioware for post-ending DLC that will allow "Shepard Lives" enders to reunite with their love interests, that "hope" you mention will never be fulfilled, and THAT is what people wanted.  Considering all the hardships, sacrifices and losses that Shepard had to suffer throughout the Mass Effect games as a whole, the one thing that would've made up for all of that would be that in the end, after all the bloodshed and destruction, Shepard could reunite with the man or woman he or she chose to love.  Hell, if you even just gave us a scene where the love interest finds out that Shepard is still alive, that would've been better than nothing at all.

I won't believe for one moment that it couldn't have been done, Bioware.  I can forgive a great many things about the endings thanks to the DLC, but not this.  With this, you've seriously, shamefully missed the mark.  I'm not about to get on the "F*ck you, Bioware" bandwagon as I've invested too much time and emotion in what is in every other way an amazing story and universe, but saying I am extremely and intensely disappointed would be a massive understatement right now.

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 TullyAckland wrote... 

You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together.


Yay for that but as you apparently don't want to show this (in the epilogue for example) it's STILL up to the headcanon of the players to put this in. So what did the EC actually add? A single retcon that the relays are magically repairable despite blowing up?

As far as I'm concerned, this was a huge waste of time. If you want to imply that there's a Shepard/LI reunion why don't you show it? Why is it continously left to us to imagine that it happened? By this logic you could've just stopped the game after Anderson died because apparently we can think of our own ending...

Did you really run out of time? Did you think it would not be important despite continously saying you understand what the fans want and 'co developed the game with the fans'? I don't understand you guys at BioWare at all.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 26 juin 2012 - 12:19 .


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TLK Spires wrote...

in summation, IT theory given a nice, big **** YOU, the plot holes are still there, they only retcon'd the relays being destroyed (they're just damaged now), admiral hackett goes bob the builder on us (can we fix it? yes we can!), and you get some still shots.


The Normandy isn't stranded. The Citadel isn't completely destroyed. Injured crew is picked up and away from Harby. More than one thing is retconned.

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LilyasAvalon wrote...

Arppis wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Okay, let's go on the thesis, that, while I'm still pissed off, I have enough information to headcanon a more or less decent ending now...

WHY THE HELL WASN'T THIS CLARIFICATION INCLUDED IN THE FIRST PLACE!?

Why not show Hackett ordering all fleets to flee!? Why just assume the player will know why Joker is abandoning them?!


I think because they thought people could connect the dots by themselves... and propably because they were time and money constrats.


That actually makes a lot of sense, knowing EA.

Especially when you consider just how much 'garbage' audio files are actually in the game files still. Stuff that was SUPPOSED to be included in the ending, but for whatever reason, was left out. Plus, there's still the script, which mentioned that the ending was supposed to be like the final mission in ME2.

*Sigh* Not happy, but not angry. Guess we'll just sit around and wait for that Omega DLC now...


Shame that you weren't satisfied by it.

I quite liked it... but then again I was one of those who was ok with the ordinary endings. I could connect the dots myself and I always find that more fun than just telling me how things are. :)

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Vikali wrote...

They implied they find living Shepard. Peole apparently have to be spoon fed the scenes rather than imagining it.

That is correct. With a big giant spoon. I can imagine things in books. I play games like ME so that I can get fed with varied content like a fat pelican.

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SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

I liked the synthesis ending >.>


Still has to be my favorite out of the three.

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So is the Citadel destroyed in the destroy/synthesis ending? Or was that retcon'd

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

... Wait, did I hear Krogan babies!? ARE THEY ADORABLE!? :o

SPOILER!

Yes.


IEUdgbf3ejwkqikqvffuifhj!!!! HOW CUTE!!!!! :wub:

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Aweus wrote...

Vikali wrote...

They implied they find living Shepard. Peole apparently have to be spoon fed the scenes rather than imagining it.

That is correct. With a big giant spoon. I can imagine things in books. I play games like ME so that I can get fed with varied content like a fat pelican.


All I heard was: I PLAY THIS GAME FOR DA ROMANCE. I WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPEE WITH 10 MINUTE CLIP OF LIARA SEX.

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any news if theres any new stuff with jack and Miranda ???? apart from the slideshow????