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[UKillMeLongTime]

Not just pure chance that in the destroy ending there is the hesitation to put sheps name on that wall but the others there is none.....hum..

[Capone666]

When does the new materiel start? Casey Suggested right before I fly off to the Cerberus Base...........Haven't found anything different in that sequence.

[Capeo]

Canis_Major wrote...

New endings solve major plotholes from original endings and overall are much better.

I still think "indoctrination theory" had more potential and could have turned ME3 into the greatest plot twist ever. But im ok with these new endings.

However i think 2 of them are "dead ends" for the franchise: synthesis, because races reach their pinnacle in evolution and possibly immortality) and Control (no threat could be of importace in front of a god with reapers as tools). Destroy and Refuse, on the other side, permit future plot lines, IMO.

BW has already stated in interviews anything that takes place in the ME universe from this point on will take place prior to the events of ME1 through ME3.

[Ilzairspar]

UKillMeLongTime wrote...

Ilzairspar wrote...

ryn_wolf wrote...

if you choose to destroy the reapers and you possibly live does that mean EDI dies too?

If you look at the memorial board you can see EDI's name.  But I've seen people say that the investigation wheel when your talking about destroy leaves some wiggle room.   Until I saw her name I wanted to assume that the body "died" but she was still the ship.

That will be my alternate reality headcannon.

she said many times she resides 'primarlly in the ship' or something like that
so they can build her a new body if they want to but i see a ship flying so it can't be fried of it's electronics

Exactly.  And that is why I will consider it my headcannon.

[Capeo]

UKillMeLongTime wrote...

Not just pure chance that in the destroy ending there is the hesitation to put sheps name on that wall but the others there is none.....hum..

Uh, cause Shep is still alive in the Destroy ending and in the other two he is not.  Simple enough.

[Vox Draco]

UKillMeLongTime wrote...

Not just pure chance that in the destroy ending there is the hesitation to put sheps name on that wall but the others there is none.....hum..

Yes, and Bioware now wants you to understand that Shepard could still be alive...left behind/forgotten obviously somewhere on the citadel while your LI and friends are making a victory-cruise to some godforsaken planet and even make that memorial-plaque...instead of STRAIGHT going to the citadel/London and look where Shepard is!

Ah forget it...the more I think of it the sillier it gets again, at least my mind was prepared this time around and I wasn't caught completly off-guard like in March...

Still sad though, Shepard has deserved so much more than this...sad, so sad...

[CronoDragoon]

Vox Draco wrote...

Yes, and Bioware now wants you to understand that Shepard could still be alive...left behind/forgotten obviously somewhere on the citadel while your LI and friends are making a victory-cruise to some godforsaken planet and even make that memorial-plaque...instead of STRAIGHT going to the citadel/London and look where Shepard is!

Ah forget it...the more I think of it the sillier it gets again, at least my mind was prepared this time around and I wasn't caught completly off-guard like in March...

Still sad though, Shepard has deserved so much more than this...sad, so sad...

You are quite obviously looking hard for things to be upset about. You seem to think that no one will come to rescue all the people we know are still alive on the Citadel, including Shepard. That is a silly assumption.

[sanadawarrior]

I wonder if the fleet commanders told the ground forces they were abandoning on the planet's surface about that part of their "plan".

[Canis_Major]

Capeo wrote...

Canis_Major wrote...

New endings solve major plotholes from original endings and overall are much better.

I still think "indoctrination theory" had more potential and could have turned ME3 into the greatest plot twist ever. But im ok with these new endings.

However i think 2 of them are "dead ends" for the franchise: synthesis, because races reach their pinnacle in evolution and possibly immortality) and Control (no threat could be of importace in front of a god with reapers as tools). Destroy and Refuse, on the other side, permit future plot lines, IMO.

BW has already stated in interviews anything that takes place in the ME universe from this point on will take place prior to the events of ME1 through ME3.

Oh didnt know that...Im not sure it's a good idea though, specially for those that, as me, are ok and "satisfied" with the new endings since they give sense to replayability, but are not really happy about them. And Refusal plot line could be of use.

[KLGChaos]

Here's an article from Forbes about the ending:

http://www.forbes.co...e-far-too-late/

Paul Tassi said exactly what I was thinking-- except he's enthusiastic about future ME titles and I won't be purchasing another Bioware game, much less anything set in the ME universe.

[chaosomegas]

it is fix the ends ps good one is middle

[Ender99]

Modifié par Ender99, 26 juin 2012 - 08:05 .

[Seifer006]

So is the Cataylst Harbinger?

I'm looking for Confirmation, or is this a joke to the fans who wanted the IT?

Modifié par Seifer006, 26 juin 2012 - 08:06 .

[Vox Draco]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Vox Draco wrote...

Yes, and Bioware now wants you to understand that Shepard could still be alive...left behind/forgotten obviously somewhere on the citadel while your LI and friends are making a victory-cruise to some godforsaken planet and even make that memorial-plaque...instead of STRAIGHT going to the citadel/London and look where Shepard is!

Ah forget it...the more I think of it the sillier it gets again, at least my mind was prepared this time around and I wasn't caught completly off-guard like in March...

Still sad though, Shepard has deserved so much more than this...sad, so sad...

You are quite obviously looking hard for things to be upset about. You seem to think that no one will come to rescue all the people we know are still alive on the Citadel, including Shepard. That is a silly assumption.

*shrugs* Bioware wants us to take what we see at face value, I am doing it.

I mean, when they imply that Shepard is still alive because your LI or whoever doesn't put that memorial plaque on the wall...now why are they even having that plaque? Why don't they show what immediately happens after destroy? Why not showing the rescue-teams dragging Shepard out of the debris?

THAT would be clarification and closure, anything else is just the same humbug we had before...I see no real point in the EC, at least not for the likes of me that actually wanted their freaking imature disney ending full of loving hugs and burials of the billions of dead...

But of course that's just me. I am sure I am the absolute vocal minority of fans worldwide in this...

[brain_damage]

So, guys, what if I started playing after the run-to-the-beam scene, will I get EC scenes or the old scenes?

[Fattness132]

Alright so i just finished the Extended Cut dlc about 5 minutes ago with a full paragon shep, romancing Tali, and having over 6k ems. Firstly i will say that while it was a decent effort by bioware, it was not nearly enough in order to make me be able to have any implicit trust with that company again.

So... the run down to the beam was at least better in the sense that you actually get to say an actual goodbye to Tali, which i did enjoy, however it seemed like it was too little to really have any long term impact. Post beam talking with the Catalyst was ok i suppose, at least he wasnt as retardedly vague as before, but still all three choices seem really dumb, particularly synthesis and control.

The end cutscenes, while interesting, showed WAAAAY too little. 3 months for a still images montage? c'mon bioware that is bull****. Picking destroy with high ems made it so not everyone is dead, but still the end scenes had no real impact for me personally. The scene with the memorial wall on the normandy was ok, but should have had some dialogue.

Finally the end breath scene WTF bioware, that is ridiculously vague and it should have kept going...it is a huge middle finger to the fans to not show a reuniting of the characters - its dumb and the only thing i can think of is that they are leaving it on a cliffhanger in order to either sell dlc or another game.


Overall the EC gets a D from me - it was too little and left me just as empty as the original ending did. Now instead of a turd, its a polished turd with febreeze sprayed on it, doesn't stop it from being a turd, just slightly less smelly.

[EatonTJ]

Canis_Major wrote...

New endings solve major plotholes from original endings and overall are much better.

I still think "indoctrination theory" had more potential and could have turned ME3 into the greatest plot twist ever. But im ok with these new endings.

However i think 2 of them are "dead ends" for the franchise: synthesis, because races reach their pinnacle in evolution and possibly immortality) and Control (no threat could be of importace in front of a god with reapers as tools). Destroy and Refuse, on the other side, permit future plot lines, IMO.

Yep.  Agree on all counts.

It would have been a truly epic plot twist if Bioware had been fooling the community for months and held back the "true" conclusion to the trilogy for this DLC (with maybe another playable "final battle" mission) that revealed the Citadel scene was the Reaper's last ditch effort at indoctrinating Shepard... but alas, it's not to be.

However, with the expanded endings, everything makes a lot more sense... at least enough for me to be satisfied.  And clearly, to me, Bioware is telling us that the idea that Shepard can "break out of the hallucination" by refusing to make any deals with the Catalyst is not a winning solution.  No matter how long Shepard can hold out fighting the Reapers without using the Crucible, eventually they will outlast him. 

And I don't look at it as an "**** you" to the IT theory people at all.  I think it's meant as a great compliment to the "indoctination theory" that they created an entirely new action/consequence to experience for the indoctination crowd to test their theory.  Rather than Bioware just saying "no" in some tweet, they thought it important enough to actually present their response via gameplay.

The only real question I have left is how can (or will) Bioware revisit the Mass Effect universe in a future game.  I absolutely adore the evolution of the gameplay in the series over the past few years, especially the combat, and I would love to see Bioware make it even better the next go around.  Given the finality of the synthesis and control endings, I hope this doesn't prevent Bioware from starting a new plotline to bring us back for another round of Mass Effect.

Modifié par EatonTJ, 26 juin 2012 - 08:10 .

[aya001]

Well, better than the other endings, explains a few things and plotholes, but still the Synthesis ending, is... sorry this space magic should disappear is just so NO!
The control ending is better than the previous one, but well, I don't see Shepard doing something like that, the "playing God" thing, another NO!

The refuse ending, was a surprise and I liked it (so shepard style, not follow just what a f*ck*ng star-child that surely is a reaper tells her/him), but well I hoped for the option of them fighting and wining, even if Shepard died, and the casualties were big, also they losing was good, but this option (for me, in my opinion) should have been available. And also, why is there an Asari with the kid at the end after the credits if they were defeated? And another question, the voice change in the kid when you refuse... that leave me with the question that, the Kid was a reaper? And what?

The Destroy ending, is my favorite, I'm sorry for the lose of the Geth and EDI, but is my favorite ending (with refuse, if there was an option of victory). But still a few things that are left in the air, I will do my own conclusions but it was too much to ask for well an explanation in a few screens of Shepard breath? I'm not asking for a fluffy-happy-reunion ending, the way Kaidan hesitated when he was going to put Shepards name in the wall (and later the breath) was enough for me to make the conclusions I want. But, come on, just a breath and that's it!!!!! Is Comander F*ck*ng Shepard!!!! I don't know, something more would have been great, but anyway I'm not complaining, is good enough, but not epic.
I didn't mention it, but I liked the explanation of Why my party members where on the normandy when they were runing with me, but... REALLY??? Harbinger not doing a thing will I talk and have tea with Kaidan and the Normandy there like nothing???? THAT was like ¬¬, My poor Shepard having a "lovely" moment and goodbye with Kaidan, and the only think I could do was laugh, because I was like "WOMAN, get moving, f*ck*ng Harbinger is her with his red laser following you and YOU ARE CHATTING!!!!!"... and no light, no harbinger NOTHING, I just... laughed too funny in my opinion, because it was silly ¬¬

And as some people has said, THIS should have been in the game just released, not just a DLC to make fans shut up, because then I would have said "Well, bioware I expected something... different, more epic, for an epic trilogy, for and epic character like Shepard etc" but now, is just like, "Well, Bioware you fixed it (somethings at least) but I will never forget the anger, frustration, confusion and WTF reactions that the endings when I first played the game.

Good, but this is not the best you can do, I know bioware (or at least I knew you) and Seriously YOU can do better than this. This is acceptable, but not your best (what the h*ll did EA to you, Indoctrinate you? ¬¬)

Anyway, this only saved your face, but the next time I get a game from Bioware (this includes DA3... I still remember DA2... cr*p as it was) I will wait for reviews, comments, or even for a platinum, low price etc. NEVER again will I pre-order a game from Bioware, this is a direct result of the... dissapointment that ME3 endings engraved in my heart *with a dramatic tone*

Anyway, at least a little thanks for this, expected better, but well at least you left a better and sweet taste in my mouth than (still remembering the other endings ¬¬) when I first played this.

[Mira]

I for one, am happy with the EC. Once again I chose "destroy" ending.

Adding EDI to the flashback was a nice gesture - after all she died so others can live. It's good to know that mass relays were only damaged not destroyed and can be rebuild.

It was nice to see Asari and Krogans witnessing Reapers destruction. Yay for Wrex having baby!

I can sleep well knowing Normandy's crew left tropical planet.

And finally - thank you for fixing EMS issue - my FemShep is alive!  Now, I'm sure she will reuinite with Kaidan.

Good job Bioware!

[Hakuthehedgehog]

Seifer006 wrote...

So is the Cataylst Harbinger?

I'm looking for Confirmation, or is this a joke to the fans who wanted the IT?

The Catalyst is the collective inteleect of all the reapers.

[CronoDragoon]

Vox Draco wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Vox Draco wrote...

Yes, and Bioware now wants you to understand that Shepard could still be alive...left behind/forgotten obviously somewhere on the citadel while your LI and friends are making a victory-cruise to some godforsaken planet and even make that memorial-plaque...instead of STRAIGHT going to the citadel/London and look where Shepard is!

Ah forget it...the more I think of it the sillier it gets again, at least my mind was prepared this time around and I wasn't caught completly off-guard like in March...

Still sad though, Shepard has deserved so much more than this...sad, so sad...

You are quite obviously looking hard for things to be upset about. You seem to think that no one will come to rescue all the people we know are still alive on the Citadel, including Shepard. That is a silly assumption.

*shrugs* Bioware wants us to take what we see at face value, I am doing it.

I mean, when they imply that Shepard is still alive because your LI or whoever doesn't put that memorial plaque on the wall...now why are they even having that plaque? Why don't they show what immediately happens after destroy? Why not showing the rescue-teams dragging Shepard out of the debris?

THAT would be clarification and closure, anything else is just the same humbug we had before...I see no real point in the EC, at least not for the likes of me that actually wanted their freaking imature disney ending full of loving hugs and burials of the billions of dead...

But of course that's just me. I am sure I am the absolute vocal minority of fans worldwide in this...

Well, it's completely fair to be disappointed there's no 100% happy ending (I would have liked one too) but the way things are left after Destroy there would have to be an extremely convoluted series of events ocurring to prevent a LI reunion. 

[ArchAngel6190]

I honestly had no problem with the EC, yes it didnt clarify everything but it does suffice.

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

Anyone else freaked out by reaper control shepard. I don't get hope I am honestly afraid of her.

[DubVee12]

Did everyone else get Thane in the flashback instead of Joker?

[nitefyre410]

Seifer006 wrote...

So is the Cataylst Harbinger?

I'm looking for Confirmation, or is this a joke to the fans who wanted the IT?

 


LOL that sir was a big  **** you to IT  and a bigger **** you to those the called Bioware on the Catalyst logic in the first place.. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 26 juin 2012 - 08:57 .