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#1176
ackalaya3

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The lack of a reunion scene was a slap in the face. You had four months.

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well, no matter what people say, Bioware, I like the EC, good job. If this ending was released at the beginning there wasn't gonna be that big ****storm before, keep up the good work

#1178
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I just noticed...we got a cameo from Fortack, Lord High Researcher for Clan Urdnot.

Yes, yes, move along...

#1179
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Garlador wrote...

Okay, I HATED HATED HATED the original endings. SO MUCH.

... I liked this. I went in expecting to be utterly disappointed. I instead felt it was extremely well done.

Is it perfect? Oh, hell no. But the fact they managed to address 90% of the massive list of problems the original ending had is impressive. The endings work so much better, the feeling of accomplishment is so much stronger, and the personal investment towards your crew and love interest pays off in dividends.

It's apparent they did listen, they did try, and they did address an overwhelming number of problems people had, and the final product now is significantly more satisfying. It may not be an "A+", but it pretty much went from a flat "F" to an encouraging "B".


This. Exactly this.

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Blue Liara wrote...

 When shepard asks the Star child about his creation and the reapers this is one of the responses he gets....

“You do not know them, and there is no time to explain” 

WHY BIOWARE WHY!!!! What a cop out. You lazy ughhh



I was actually okay with this.  Kept the dialogue from dragging and remember, the entire first game we had no idea about the origin of the reapers and were pretty okay with that.  Yes curious, but accepting of the fact that they were the evil boogie men of this unniverse and needed to be dispatched with or without back story.

And the weird, creepy (creepier if you refuse all the choices), glowy kid had a point.  You don't have no information about any civilization fro 150,000 years ago and no context to frame the catalysts answer in.  And where it came from had no bearing on the current situation.


Anyhow, I will sum up how I feel about the DLC in two words:

BABY KROGANS!:o:lol::D:happy:<3<3<3

#1181
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you can finally shoot the damn thing

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chem light wrote...

Blue Liara wrote...

 When shepard asks the Star child about his creation and the reapers this is one of the responses he gets....

“You do not know them, and there is no time to explain” 

WHY BIOWARE WHY!!!! What a cop out. You lazy ughhh



I was actually okay with this.  Kept the dialogue from dragging and remember, the entire first game we had no idea about the origin of the reapers and were pretty okay with that.  Yes curious, but accepting of the fact that they were the evil boogie men of this unniverse and needed to be dispatched with or without back story.

And the weird, creepy (creepier if you refuse all the choices), glowy kid had a point.  You don't have no information about any civilization fro 150,000 years ago and no context to frame the catalysts answer in.  And where it came from had no bearing on the current situation.


Anyhow, I will sum up how I feel about the DLC in two words:

BABY KROGANS!:o:lol::D:happy:<3<3<3


I am Urdnot Mordin, and this is my SEASHELL!!!

#1183
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cannedcream wrote...

Well if your LI is alive and Shep is alive, sooner or later someone is going to pull him outta the rubble and altert the Normandy.


Ah, thanks. I did'nt realize LI is refusing to hang it up. now everything makes sense.

Modifié par darkstarxt, 26 juin 2012 - 11:44 .


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Really wanted a reunion scene, but other than that, pretty good

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I have to say that after i finished my playthrough i never thought that anything could make the endings even acceptable and i REALLY hoped that biowae would go for IT. But after i finished the EC i must say EPIC WORK Bioware!! Its maybe just about 10 Minutes more but it fixes the plotholes, showes what happens afterwards, and the reject-part was a great idea as well. The only thing i really miss is some kind of reunion. You can speculate that Shep survived because his name plate isnt added and the breathing guy is still there, but some kind of clarification would make it the best DLC i ever downloaded

Modifié par Fresch, 26 juin 2012 - 11:47 .


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Starchild = Reaper collective conciousness = Reaper version of Borg Queen! ^_^

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darkstarxt wrote...

DistantUtopia wrote...

3.) Implied LI Reunion


How come? Just speculation?


IF you're alive, your LI will NOT put your name up on the memorial wall. He or she will hesistate and look out hopeful. If you're dead, she or she just puts it on the wall and cries.

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chem light wrote...

Blue Liara wrote...

 When shepard asks the Star child about his creation and the reapers this is one of the responses he gets....

“You do not know them, and there is no time to explain” 

WHY BIOWARE WHY!!!! What a cop out. You lazy ughhh



I was actually okay with this.  Kept the dialogue from dragging and remember, the entire first game we had no idea about the origin of the reapers and were pretty okay with that.  Yes curious, but accepting of the fact that they were the evil boogie men of this unniverse and needed to be dispatched with or without back story.

And the weird, creepy (creepier if you refuse all the choices), glowy kid had a point.  You don't have no information about any civilization fro 150,000 years ago and no context to frame the catalysts answer in.  And where it came from had no bearing on the current situation.


Anyhow, I will sum up how I feel about the DLC in two words:

BABY KROGANS!:o:lol::D:happy:<3<3<3


Spot on, I agree 100% .
What difference would it make for us to know which species created the Reapers? We have gotten no information on them previously whatsoever, it would make no difference for us to get some info about them from a 15 sec convo.. We got what we needed to know, they created the AI that then made them the first Reaper against their will, so even they did not want to become a Reaper. Thats definately enough information for me, and I think it is for everyone if they think about it.
The extended cut went way beyond my expectations, now we can actually talk to the catalyst instead of just being thrown into decision's we know next to nothing about, we get more cutscenes showing what happened afterwards, people don't actually starve to death (wooohoo) :P .
No but seriously, they did a great job here, as I have seen people say in other threads.. My faith has been restored! 
Well done Bioware!

#1189
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Definitely better. It fills those glaring plotholes and gives us brief closure to what happened to some of the species. The only problem I had with it is the lack of Shepard reuniting with his crew and or LI. It's heavily implied, I get that, but still kinda stuck the wrong way when it ended with the breath cliffhanger. Other then that, I thought it fixed up everything nicely.

I also love that final picture of Zaeed.

#1190
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chem light wrote...
BABY KROGANS!:o:lol::D:happy:<3<3<3


They were.... WAAAY too goddamn cute...

#1191
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MassEffecter132 wrote...

Really wanted a reunion scene, but other than that, pretty good


Oh yes, it would have been a very nice scene to have, but it doesn't ruin anything for me.

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Reunion scene would have been nice for destroy enders, but overall, MAJOR improvement over pre-EC endings. It pulled the focus back to the characters (in the slides) which is the reason I play ME. Also, it filled a number of the plotholes in the ending, giving it much more coherence as a whole. Crossing my fingers for some sort of character-based DLC. As much as I love the combat in ME3, I would love to spend more time with ME2 squaddies who were still neglected in the EC... : ( Ah well. "EC=success" for me at least.

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I was definitely a lot happier that Bioware answered so many of the questions that were left in the original ending like what happened to the Normandy, crew at the conduit run, mass relays, and every fleet on Earth, and then the little stuff with the LI., plus the pictures with Hackett's narration - even though that part seemed kind of half-assed.
My only problem was no expansion on the "Shepard lives if you choose destroy" part. Considering not everyone chooses destroy I expected some expansion (a reunion?) for those who did choose destroy.

Modifié par skittlesrehab, 26 juin 2012 - 11:56 .


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I liked the synthesis ending a lot. That and the destroy I go between now. I kinda wished the destroy ending didn't do the breath cliffhanger again but the end picture with Zaeed was pretty funny. He can finally take a vacation.

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I'm pretty happy with the EC all round! True, shooting the starchild gave me a nasty shock and cost me 20 minutes of my life, but still pretty happy!

I'm especially pleased they took out the totally non-sensical destruction of the relays. That and the one final installment of the Vakarian and Shepard show...

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The only pothole they fixed was why Joker left. The entire Normandy pickup scene fixing the old pothole but creates a new one in why the hell didn't Harbinger destroy the Normandy, you know the ship that seems to completely ruin the Reapers plans all the time?

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I actually thought the refusal was dead end dialogue and did it on accident at first. I thought it was one of those branches where they let you rail against the narrative for a bit and then put you back in your box and force you to make a decision.

As soon as the kid walked away, I thought to myself, "Oops. Wait. No. Come back! I choose synthesis!"

When Liara popped up and started telling the next cycle how we all died I felt pretty sheepish.

I think BioWare might have been ribbing the critics there. "Don't like out endings, huh? Don't want to pick any of them do you?"

Anyhow, people in the room at least were amused at my wailing.

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Yeah, i'm quite happy too with the EC, ( destroy ending ) which is surprising lol.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 26 juin 2012 - 11:58 .


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skittlesrehab wrote...

I was definitely a lot happier that Bioware answered so many of the questions that were left in the original ending like what happened to the Normandy, crew at the conduit run, mass relays, and every fleet on Earth, and then the little stuff with the LI., plus the pictures with Hackett's narration - even though that part seemed kind of half-assed.
My only problem was no expansion on the "Shepard lives if you choose destroy" part. Considering not everyone chooses destroy I expected some expansion (a reunion?) for those who did choose destroy.


If you picked Destroy and lived, your Love Interest will NOT put your name up on the memorial wall. It's actually pretty good foreshadowing, especially since you're shown alive moments later with the breath scene.

Just put two and two together.

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Garlador wrote...

skittlesrehab wrote...

I was definitely a lot happier that Bioware answered so many of the questions that were left in the original ending like what happened to the Normandy, crew at the conduit run, mass relays, and every fleet on Earth, and then the little stuff with the LI., plus the pictures with Hackett's narration - even though that part seemed kind of half-assed.
My only problem was no expansion on the "Shepard lives if you choose destroy" part. Considering not everyone chooses destroy I expected some expansion (a reunion?) for those who did choose destroy.


If you picked Destroy and lived, your Love Interest will NOT put your name up on the memorial wall. It's actually pretty good foreshadowing, especially since you're shown alive moments later with the breath scene.

Just put two and two together.


I loved that, honestly. My LI still holding a glimmer of hope that Shepard was still alive somehow, and then cutting to the scene in the rubble... it gives me a little hope that very soon someone is going to get a very welcome surprise. ^_^