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Esha13 wrote...

But....I still don't know WHY the normandy left? What happened to my crew who followed me to hell and back throughout all 3 games (including Liara actually finding Shepherd so she could be brought back to life, and the whole crew who went on the suicide mission in ME2)? Why would they leave Shepherd, when other ships hung around? Why is shepherd sitting breathing under a pile of rubble while her LI smiles lovingly at a name plaque on the other side of the galaxy? Why oh why?

Normandy left, because they don't know, what happen, if the shockwave from the crusable hits them.
The crew survived, you can see them in cut scene and in the memorial.

[ghost9191]

Obadiah wrote...

While I am happy with the EC ending, it seems that Bioware caved to the masses needing happy endings for all three choices (and some still want it happier).

The original ending was a galactic reset on civilization no matter the choice, with the destruction of the relay network and the marooning of the Normandy crew on some unknown planet where a new civilzation begins. Much was uncertain, but clearly it would be a struggle to survive and rebuild.

The new endings all seem like kum-ba-ya (well, except for that new 4th one). Very sappy, with an extra option of no compromise leading to a century of sadness, horror, and extermination while the Reapers finish the cycle.

well that is part of the reason i choose destroy, the races of the galaxy have to do it by themselves, whereas in control and synthesis the reapers rebuild for them, species don't have to advance , they stagnate in control and synthesis in my opinion. whereas in destroy there is a new dawn without the reapers, have to build for themselves, make choices and live with them, i mean yeah they still rebuild but it takes more time and again they do it themselves rather then rely on the reapers

[Liyros]

At least the additional voice acting was superb. I still felt 'meh' at it. I guess the damage was already done all those pitiful months ago. Laying out some details, like no, krogans aren't going eat everyone since repairs are possible, and that my LI is likely to see my busted-up Shep (srly, how are you alive?) soon was nice I guess. I still adore the Mass Effect universe, and I still hang that autographed ME2 squad poster on my wall, but I don't have that burn to replay any of ME1-2 games like I used too.

I want Bioware to enraptured me again with your products. Whatever you folks have in store next will certainly be a determining factor.

[93WinstonJEC]

MoirDing wrote...

EC wasn't perfect, but nothing really ever is. I personally feel that people only dislike it now, because BW screwed up the first time. If this were the original ending, most people would have been content first time around.

I agree, I think that most fans wouldn't have started these huge retake movements. But at the same time the fans deserve to get angry about something like this. You could tell it was rushed and not a whole of time was put into it. No epilogue for a trilogy, barely a conclusion and most importantly, no closure.

And for crying out why can't I get my happy ending!? I played all three games multiple times with full paragon and did every mission. We deserve an ending where everyone is relaxing together at the poker table in the normandy. Might as well be used for something.

[MystEU]

Happy with the new endings. Surprised about the 4th choice and the context of each ending in particular is far improved from what it was. The voice-overs added a bit for the epilogue scenes and how those were distinguished were great. After choosing destroy and watching control later on, I thought that was pretty damn awesome. Questions answerd and closure granted. It's enough for me. I'm happy with this.

[mc_garnicle]

Just want to say a big thanks to Bioware. I never expected an ending that matched all of my hopes but the original ending really left me with a sense that Mass Effect had never really finished. Too much was left up in the air. THe EC has addressed most of my issues so I am now satisfied with my Mass Effect experience and will remain a fan of the series and a consumer of future products (which I most certainly would not have been had Bioware not taken time to address its core fans in the way it has).

The only real pity for me was a lack of visible war assets in acion. However, I do realise that Bioware stuck as much as they possibly could within MS's 2 gig limit so I am happy.

Modifié par mc_garnicle, 27 juin 2012 - 08:00 .

[gandalffladnag]

Well. The ending is at least 'better' now.  I still don't like the whole spacekid thing, but this is probably the best we're going to get.  Disappointing Bioware said they were listening and made the ending less crappy and rushed when several suggestions were to change it.  Bioware lost my trust, but at least they tried to fix it first over making money with paid dlc.  Will I buy more Bioware games?  I would say yes definitively IF they apologize for the first pile of poo ending, and sacked the guy who didn't let the writing TEAM do the ending.  But since I don't expect either to actually happen, I suppose I might show interest in future Bioware games, at least any new Mass Effect series games.
  I still don't think the ending is what the series deserves, but it was several steps in the right direction.
Other things Bioware can fix, Dragon Age 2, and the smegging multiplayer store in ME3, just no more character cards after maxed out or a lot more exp for the class when they are maxed.  would make the evil store give me the frakking Asari Adept already.
So, THANK YOU BIOWARE for making the crappy ending at least a little less crappy.

[iheartbob]

I just finished with the synthesis ending, which I had never done before the EC.
* My only negative comment would be on the scene with the Catalyst.  I still think that the logic was not explained to a satisfactory end, at least to me.  All I kept hearing was "I'm a solution," over and over.  It still bothers me that I could not counter the Catalyst's argument that synthetics and organics cannot coexist when I just finished brokering peace between the geth/quarians.  However, I'll acknowledge that it's probably not something they could have changed without completely retconning the game.
I have to say I was pleasantly surprised with everything after the Catalyst scene.

* I got the proper LI flashbacks.  I even got a flashback first for Thane and then for Kaiden, which I was not expecting.  Nice touch.
* Having Hackett and then Garrus tell Joker it was time to leave was also a nice touch.  It was a very small, twenty second scene, but it was necessary and should have been there to begin with.
* Really loved seeing the various planets show their species getting "synthesized," not just Earth. 
* The litte graphic storyboard type images showing the survival of the species was beautiful, and I was actually okay with no text.
* Edi's VO and saying she finally felt "alive" was really touching, and I look forward to hearing Hackett's VO when I do the Destroy ending with my Renegon next.
* The memorial.  Honestly, that's what sold the entire EC ending for me.  Even more so than seeing the Normandy fly off and venture back into space.  It was a more definitive form of closure for Shepard and it was very, very touching. 
* The music was aweome

[riesenwiesel]

Listening to the fans?

http://social.biowar...index/10990695/ 
http://social.biowar...index/11356269/ 

That makes roughly 300 pages of people hoping for a closure with the LI.
Would a little follow-up for the breath scene really have hurt?
This is what i missed most in the EC and yes I am somehow disappointed, because in my subjective opinion that's what most people ask for... ok maybe despite filling the plotholes ^^

Apart from that the EC is pretty good as an original game ending. Considering the term "extended" and the extra effort it's maybe still a bit to less, but aside from the topic above I am very ok with it.

Modifié par riesenwiesel, 27 juin 2012 - 08:10 .

[Missy_MI]

Just popping in to comment now that I've finally played the Extended Cut.

The updated endings provide what I wanted the most after originally finishing the game, which is knowing the general outcome for the Normandy crew and Mass Effect galaxy. And knowing those things also made Shepard's choice at the end feel much more heroic.

So thank you BioWare! I'm finally able to look forward to future ME3 single player DLCs.

[Phuz]

I would gladly pay for a Romance DLC, but I don't see BioWare making DLC that is applicable for only one of four ending choices. The EC DLC cleared up the Normandy crew's situation and implies at a reunion with Shepard and LI. That's more than enough for me.

[ghost9191]

would've liked to see more cut scenes while i was playing through the whole priority earth mission.. wanted to see something with the destiny ascension ffs, a bit of closure at the end for like the genophage but would be nice to also see war assets play a part in the final battle.

[GoblinSapper]

Your endings are still terrible and I want you to know that. Also, you were incredibly insulting during the whole handling of this debacle back in March. Succinctly, I am dissapoint.

[OchreJelly]

Better than what I expected, worse than what it could have been. At this point I'm past really caring that much about Mass Effect so the reaction is a little diminished.

The pacing and timing was *very* weird in some of the scenes. Stretching time all over the place in most cutscenes, and jumping from past to future in the epilogue, was rather problematic. And the handwaves like Normandy picking up the squad, and Hackett knowing about Shepard on the Crucible were a bit forced. Same situations with different mechanics would have worked better, but I digress.

I still think at least one ending deserved a Shep/LI/Crew reunion shown on screen (not headcanoned.) If it's Shepard's last hurrah then the option should have been there. I'm very tired of speculating.

I appreciate the effort from the guys at BioWare though, at least they tried and released something even if it was not quite what people were looking for.

[Washave]

Your repair patch is not so terrible. (Yes i don't want call it DLC because it's only a repair patch to the cathastrofic endings you'd made).

Only one point leave me "meh". Why, in the destruction final,you let shepard breath instead of reunion with liara? or tali or etc. (depends on your romance)

This is my only question and my only displeasure.

In the otherside i can't say thanks for "dlc" this was to be your work since release date.

Sorry for my english i'd tried to wrote as best as i could

Modifié par Washave, 27 juin 2012 - 08:35 .

[BD Manchild]

Going over the endings they do paste up a couple of minor plot holes and give an actual sense of closure, which I appreciate, but the EC still ignores the larger complaints I had with the original ending. The explanation for the Reapers' actions is still laughably nonsensical and still comes out of nowhere, and it still basically amounts to picking from one of three choices, all of which are still almost identical and all of which I find thematically revolting (hey kids, what's better? Genocide, domination or forced eugenics?), with an added "none of the above" option.

Talking of that ending, it really sticks in my craw that apparently your EMS score still means absolutely nothing. Obviously going toe-to-toe with the Reapers would not have resulted in a happy ending, but the fact that you can't even slightly influence the outcome of the battle indicates an ending that is rushed at best and horribly nihilistic at worst, and the way the scene plays out still makes me feel like Bioware are punishing the player for not "appreciating their artistic integrity".

I dunno, it is better than the original ending (especially since the post-ending message is no longer an obvious advert for DLC), but not by much. The gesture is appreciated, but it still feels to me that they just tried to polish a turd.

Modifié par BD Manchild, 27 juin 2012 - 09:07 .

[freedemshouldbefree]

I don't know if this is the right place for this. I feel it maybe needs a whole thread but I also thought that’s a bit arrogant as I am only one person and one fan but here is my review of the EC and what it means for Bioware as a whole.



So I have replayed through the game and chosen all 4 endings to see what happens and I have so say it was ok. That’s it "ok". It was Bioware doing exactly what they said they would (a nice change after all the misinformation we got about mass effect 3 before release). This extended cut really was them just expanding on the original endings and giving a little closure. It never changed the endings just expanded on them. I thought the expansion of the endings was ok they added some closure and a bit of voice over, but I must say I was underwhelmed by the experience and overwhelmed by how little content there actually was, particularly for a 2 GB download. Seriously what is in that? How big are those still artworks in the slideshow?


So the endings for mass effect 3 were "bad", railroaded into some terrible unoriginal choices, and the EC has created "good, bad" endings (in my honest opinion they are still "bad, bad" endings but I think if I am objective they are "good, bad" endings). I am not really sure if a “good, bad” ending is better or worse than a "bad, good" ending but it certainly isn't as good as a "good, good" ending. 


So Bioware I appreciate the gesture thanks for trying but I am leaving now and I don't know when I will be back. I won't say I am never coming back that would be foolish but I certainly won't be "pre-ordering" ever again. And this isn’t just me storming of in a fit of rage or being a spoilt brat, it’s that this was “ok” and that isn’t good enough for me. I don’t want “ok” especially not from Bioware I expected better than that I wanted “fantastic” or at least “great” and this wasn’t it. 


I have bought and played ME3 DA2 and TOR (I know this is a little off topic as people who made ME3 weren’t involved in the other games and vice versa, wrong thread and all, and I am sorry for that but it all adds up). All three games “ok”, three different studios on three different games and all of them were just “ok” and for me that isn’t good enough (and this isn’t just a games thing it’s a life thing, of course I want the best I can have or the best I can afford) and Bioware just isn’t making that anymore. I want fantastic. I want amazing. That’s what Bioware used to make but not recently. 


As I said before it’s not that I will never buy a Bioware game again, it’s just that I won’t be pre-ordering one or day one release buying one again. I will wait to see what people say after it being out for a month or wait for it to be on sale 6months or a year down the line and then maybe buy it but I am not going through this disappointment a 4th time. Because I simply can’t trust Bioware to make great games, great experiences anymore. It’s that simple nothing more nothing less. 3 strikes and you’re out. Sorry but for me the trust is gone.

Modifié par freedemshouldbefree, 27 juin 2012 - 08:47 .

[lady winde]

Great job, Bioware! I really enjoyed the Extended Cut DLC. I know you guys started this DLC knowing you wouldn't be able to please everyone, but just wanted to say you have a pleased fan here.

I just finished Destroy (well... after shooting starchild hahaha) and plan on getting Synthesis and Control tomorrow.

Can't wait to see what else you have in the works!

[Lockler]

The original ending's Pyrrhic Victory (I suppose now the story that was left untold), is what confounded me.  One way or another you control, merge, or destroy the Reapers in three lovely shades of color without resolution to what happened other than the Reapers falling over or flying away.  And Earth is still a crater, everyone is stranded, and there is no proper sendoff for the people you do care about specifically.  Except Anderson.  He's dead.  But I've already cried over that.  

I've only run through the Destroy Ending, but it left me with much more of a catharsis than the original.  The first scene with the Normandy pickup, really tugged at me with the LI.  I felt that was a great wrap up as a last meeting and explains the team being not as AWOL as originally thought, even if it's slightly obtuse.  But that's where it started to greatly differ in impact.  The greatest sense of difference from EC to O, is this doesn't feel rushed.  It might be more of a fanservice to simply placate us, but the options are fleshed out and there are REAL differences in each choice (from what I read).  

And speaking of, there are a number of retcons that should be explored, because I wonder how much the overall change is, like with the Sol Relay.  It fractures in the same places as what we see in the extended cut (sans grand explosion), while conversely we don't see the Normandy get torn to pieces.  

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Why couldn't Bioware just show it?  Or show Shepard in a hospital with the roles reversed for VS and Shepard?
 Why doesn't it show the LI looking for Shepard?


This is the end of Shepard's story right? So why hold back? Why just the tease? I thought the EC was about closure.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 27 juin 2012 - 08:58 .

[Darkholl0w]

I just saw the Control ending and it blew me away really.Sacrifice for the greater good of all really struck a cord there.

I played all the endings now with my FemShep full PAragon highest EMS possible that I could get and 100% Galactic Readiness and I am simply torn.

After seeing them all I can't choose between becoming the guardian of the galaxy(control) or  go the martyr route(green) for ultimate evolution or destroy the biggest threat that the galaxy has ever known once and for all at the expense of the geth genocide.

Modifié par Darkholl0w, 27 juin 2012 - 08:59 .

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Darkholl0w wrote...

I just saw the Control ending and it blew me away really.Sacrifice for the greater good of all really struck a cord there.

I played all the endings now with my FemShep full PAragon highest EMS possible that I could get and 100% Galactic Readiness and I am simply torn.

After seeing them all I can't choose between becoming the guardian of the galaxy/martyr for ultimate evolution or destroy the biggest threat that the galaxy has ever known once and for all at the expense of the geth genocide.

Destroy is the best ending.  The Geth can be repaired (like the Citadel and all other technologies).  That "genocide" is only temporary.

[K-Mart]

Thanks BW! Synthesis ending now gives me closure. Most importantly the EC has made this awesome trilogy re playable

[heraymo]

BIOWARE!!!! please take more care of your franchises next time so this doesnt happen again i'm more content than i was before and appreciate the time and money put into fixing this but you will still have to regain my trust and this is a great 1st step Thanks again.

[Cornughon]

I just chose the Synthesis ending, and although it's still a bit of space magic, I was actually moved by it (emotionally), and I can guarantee that doesn't happen much! I don't really enjoy having to sacrifice Shepard, but at least with this ending, I think it payed out quite well after all. I also like the added pieces and cutscenes during the epilogue sequence!

I personally think Bioware did it right this time, so a big thank you to them!

It's unfortunate it wasn't there in the first place, but for me BW (finally) restored my interest in the single player.