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[Sn0wst0rm]

I knew that the EC fixing the endings to my satisfaction was a long shot when Bioware announced they were not going to change them, and merely expand on them. Pretty much got what I was expecting from it. So long Bioware, it was good while it lasted.

[CronoDragoon]

They fixed the two major problems in the ending: the destruction of the relays and the stranding of your crew. I am satisfied.

[Deltateam Elcor]

 It has redeemed it somewhat for me,  my opinion of bioware is still cautious however.

The Good.

-Liara's box is no longer pointlessly up in the air anymore with the new morally neutral ending.

-Destroy is now also more black and white, rather than leading to questions of the legitimacy of the Reaper consciousness incarnate on the citadel, which is also a shame id say, but you cannot have both i guess.

-Control is actually intriguing, although still proposes problems in the shape of philosophical consequences, but that is fine in a story, it is prefered to what came before.

Synthesis is still rather dubious from a scientific standpoint, even if it is fictional, however it is less immersion smashing than what it previously was, so a win id say.

The Continued Bad.

-Crucible is still a deus ex machina and still reprehensible in the story arc.

-Sovereign's dialogue has become completely pointless, it said that they were individuals in a sense, control (though the child itself was also a big give away) seems to air the feeling that its more like the Borg from Star Trek...


In terms of shepards "survival", Destroy is "up in the air", control is...well its more alive than dead and Synthesis is quite completely killed.

In sci-fi terms, Control would allow shepard to return as a being if her/he/it was transfered to a mindless clone or something along those lines if her/he/it wanted to.

Though in destroy i find it strange they kept the breathing vid, it is obvious it symbolises his/her survivial, but the new CGI kinda makes it seem like years or months have passed...strange.

Modifié par Deltateam Elcor, 26 juin 2012 - 07:07 .

[Steve The Seal]

 I still think it is a lousy ending, mainly because they completely missed their target. The main components of this trilogy is characters and decisionmaking.

The third installment advocates: "You (shepard) have to make the tough decisions", while none of you're former tough decisions actually matters.

A good ending would not have a kindergarden discussion with some complete mental AI, who which logic, shep apparently accepts blindly (qoue facepalm). And before you say it, no the fourth option to refuse hardly solves this issue, as shepard simply refuse to act. And therefore becomes just as mental as the AI whoopti fu***ng doo.

A good ending would have shown what would have happend to the people you have came to know and care about through the 3 installments and no, slideshows and a normandy stranding is hardly good enough.

A good ending would differ between your decisions and alter it (for example, what happens to the rachni if you save them and what happens to the galaxy if they were missing). I'm not asking for thousands of different endings. It should simply differ according to the decisions and actions that made major differences in the game (charactor survival, renegade/paragon etc.)

Synthesis is idoitic, because it's spacemagic. Nothing else really matters about it. It simply is idiotic.

That is why it still is a bad ending. Even though they fixed some of the plotholes the main problem still remains.

[FataliTensei]

No.

[l0wn3r]

YES YES YES

[sparkyo42]

The EC would have been enough to raise a meh at the end rather than the "Are you Fing kidding me?" response.

But now after everything that's happened from the release till now I doubt that I'll every be willing to buy a Bioware product again. There's also the MP being made such a invasive part of the SP product.

Bioware happily burned through the fan's goodwill and brought it's own brand into disrepute.

[Akto]

I watched the endings of the EC on youtube as I did not want to the excruciating pain of play again the ending... and yes... it was what I expected. Just an extension of the same crap.... and the "I defy you" choice that they added was in the end, a slap in the face!! What an insult. Goodbye Bioware!!

this is how you give thanks to the fans, ​​the ending is a crap , the epilogue was something that had to be there from the start, no credit for that, you guys are so stupid and arrogant that you do not admit that you ****ed in the end you put a big pile of ****, then change just a few details to amend the end......pathetic bioware

[res27772]

Well done BioWare, as far as I’m concerned you’ve saved the ending, and given the game an ending it deserves.

I’ve looked at all four endings with one of my playthroughs (yes, I said four, if you don’t know how to get the fourth, experiment, lol) – I feel after the new material I understand much better about the Catalyst and what it’s for, and also the Reapers.  I’m also happy to say I now think ALL the endings are good, and all have their merits – before my favourite was Destroy, but now it’s definitely Synthesis.

I liked the epilogues as well to show how you’re choices through the series were reflected after the ‘choice’ is made on the Citadel… but the part I love, is the final sequence just before the credits (I won’t say what it is in case people are reading this just to see what people think of it) – however it quite literally had me in tears, not the eyes watering kind of tears, I was literally bawling my eyes out the first time I saw that sequence (Synthesis), it was so perfect, I felt like I’d lost a dear friend… I cried so hard my mum came in to see what was up, lol.

Nice work BioWare…. I love you again!

Modifié par res27772, 26 juin 2012 - 07:11 .

[CingCoCo]

I register the effort. But the ending itself still doesnt represent the theme ME had to me. The EC didnt fail. It was decent and probably included what a lot of people wanted to see.
Too bad for me that the general idea of the ending(s) was flawed. They didnt change that. I have to accept that they wanted to stick with their artistic integrity. And they have to accept that I wont pay people for stuff I dont like.

[Karmicmoogle]

I like the EC and appreciate that BW did it. I can not forgive as I was never angry. I was disappointed with the hype in interviews and how it differs from what was shipped. Will I pre-order again? Maybe

[Tankcommander]

I isn't the original endings (from the leak), but they did pretty well with what they had. I wouldn't have complained much if I these had been what we had at launch. It solved most of the major plot holes, so I can't complain. However, some things were majorly retconned (like being stranded on the planet, tho I'm very happy that was changed).

However, making us die no matter what if we reject Starchild is dumb, as is the fact EDI and the Geth perish if we choose Destroy. Why does Shepard die if he controls the Reapers?

One of the original endings you could destroy the Reapers, save Shepard, and also prevent Earth from being completely destroyed. It was very hard to get, but why scrap it?

EC is satisfying enough to forgive, but I'll always be wary of Bioware now. EA, with BF3 and ME3, has lost my trust. I'll never preorder from them again, sadly.

[DESTRAUDO]

Liked the original ending (picked synth) LOVED the ED synth ending. Loved it. Best possible ending to me then and now more than ever.

[Jerjud45]

Was a nice effort and I can accept what we got. Still isn't very good though. It is highly unlikely that I will buy any additional DLC that gets released for this game, or any future Bioware products.

[Elite Midget]

No, the EC didn't address a lot of issues and still left things too open to speculation. They also showed their dissatisfaction with the fanbase by their troll do nothing ending where if you don't join the enemy and play by his rules you're always going to cause the destruction of the Universe no matter EMS score or your past actions. So there will never be forgiveness, though I did expect Bioware to fail with the EC so no hopes were crushed here since I didn't expect much from them in the first place.

[LordJeyl]

No. They took the one thing I wanted to happen and they ended up using it as a FU** YOU moment. Why can't a perfect galactic readiness and effective military strength bring down the Reapers? I know they're supposed to be tough, but they're not invincible.

[Sheepie Crusher]

Black_Vanguard wrote...

As some have already said, I can live with it. Its not perfect, but I can live with it. These should have been the endings we got from the beginning and no the rush job we got from the start.

[AlexPorto111]

The EC give me the closure i needed,and it does explain a lot of unaswered questions.I loved.But no reunion with crew,but still,i really got he closure i was hoping for.Also,its pretty obvious,if Shepard survived,and the Citadel will be rebuild,Shepard will be found eventually and finally,in my canon Shepard,he is finally reunited with Liara.

[ArchDuck]

LordJeyl wrote...

No. They took the one thing I wanted to happen and they ended up using it as a FU** YOU moment. Why can't a perfect galactic readiness and effective military strength bring down the Reapers? I know they're supposed to be tough, but they're not invincible.

Because the people behind the ending can not differentiate between conventional weaponry and conventional tactics.

In fact the game supports the idea that the Reapers can be defeated by conventional weaponry with unconventional tactics.

[toots1221]

Just watched a friend play it and honestly no, I'm still disappointed. I'm just gonna cut my losses with ME3 and move on. It's a lesson for me though, never ever EVER again get too emotionally involved in Bioware games.

[AGogley]

The EC helped the ending, but it didn't change the worst part which was the whole dues ex machina aspect. You simply can't polish that.

[Hennex]

No, the EC is slightly more tolerable but the ending is still not satisfying.

[kiyomizu]

Sn0wst0rm wrote...

I knew that the EC fixing the endings to my satisfaction was a long shot when Bioware announced they were not going to change them, and merely expand on them. Pretty much got what I was expecting from it. So long Bioware, it was good while it lasted.

Pretty much the same here.  I expected very little and that is what I got.  The endings were exactly what Bioware said they would be - clarification.  The fact that they needed to clarify that the relays didn't explode and that everyone didn't starve to death just shows how pathetic artistic the first ending was.  

It is truly a shame that they insisted on using the Starchild - it is obvious given the overwhelming hatred for it and their refusal to remove it that they are hubristic to the point of delusion or the Starchild is scheduled for a reappearance in future content.

[Mikenator700]

Played it once, and that's all I need. Gonna delete it and make room for Dawnguard.

[Twinzam.V]

Where's Gamestop? I need a Gamestop where they accept the 3 ME games.