Is EC satisfying enough to forgive?
#376
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:13
#377
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:13
And while you're at it stop making false promises to sell games, don't bulls*it us because it only hurts you in the end.
#378
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:13
#379
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:18
As far as forgiving BioWare? Not really. Their games will be bargain bin buys from here on out.
#380
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:21
#381
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:22
Blue Liara wrote...
Comguard2 wrote...
No way.
They did the same cheap stunt - again.
The main part of the ending is the 4-minute sequence of artwork that barely different - the glowing green eyes are stupid beyond belief.
They are unquestionable better than the original ones, but the main problem remains: the Catalyst.
Agreed.
The endings did not satsify me and I defintely am not about to forgive. This has gone exactly as Bioware wanted it too.
PR damage control from the very beggining. Delay as long as possible before responding to fan outrage. Then claim that it is only a vocal minority who dislike the endings.
Spew out the nonsense that they are "LISTENING", all that listening clearly did them no good because the VAST majority of feedback wanted a DIFFERENT ending NOT a clarification.
Then say they are going to release an extended version to satisfy and answer some of the issues that us poor dumb fans can't understand, but say they are going to maintain their "ARTISTIC INTEGRITY" which was a huge giant pile of rubbish.
This artistic integrity rubish became their go to excuse to tell fans that they could not as a matter of principle change ending. As if it would violate some supreme law of the cosmos.
They also new that saying there was going to be an exteneded DLC coming out would quell the fan outrage enough that the backlash would essentially diminish enough to take the pressure off them so they would not have to listen to the fans.
They then give us this pathetic excuse for an ending as a "fix". In which they put in just enough to satisfy enough people so that the backlash dies down and they can say that they saved face.
So now in the future they can say "look how nice and good a company we are" we listened to our fans and changed the endings.
NO WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG.
They have treated all of us like entitled idiots from day one, and it seems to me begrudingly offered us this DLC because they absolutely had to. The impression i have recieved now and through out is that this has always been about MONEY EGO ARROGANCE and an outright refusal to acknowledge in any way that they were wrong.
They had an opportunity with this DLC to truly save face and make the Mass Effect series one of the greatest stories not just in gaming history but Science fiction and in my opinon they completely and utterly missed the boat, dropped the ball, fumbled the pass....however you want to put it, a complete an utter failure.
Well said.
As for me I'm probably through with Bioware games in the future as well. They just aren't the same company anymore.
Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 26 juin 2012 - 09:23 .
#382
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:25
#383
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:25
#384
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:26
I can't forgive Bioware entierly, because the original ending stung too much and how they treated Thane as a LI and forgot about him. And I still think ME3 is the worst in the series, but thats just my opinion.
But at least I feel I can still trust them with games again. Maybe I won't pre order but I see myself buying their games still.
#385
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:31
#386
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:31
The Wumpus wrote...
I would certainly say yes. Much more satisfying than before. I finished it just now, and I'm happy with it.
I have to agree with this. ME3 has replay value now
#387
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:34
I was really skeptical when they announced the EC. But BioWare pulled it off, congratulations.
Despite starchild, some remaining plotholes and
#388
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:36
People who do not forgive:
a) didn't get their particular vision delivered
c) are stubborn
d) all of above!
I'd say yes, it is good that they sorted out the worst of plotholes. I don't think I have ever seen as much cutscene as there was at the end of ME3 EC. I do not like the fact that it took that much effort to explain their vision, but there it is, finally complete.
#389
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:37
#390
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:37
#391
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:39
Jarcander wrote...
Looks like about half the people will forgive them. I would say they mark this DLC as worthy investment.
People who do not forgive:
a) didn't get their particular vision deliveredlike to complain
c) are stubborn
d) all of above!
I'd say yes, it is good that they sorted out the worst of plotholes. I don't think I have ever seen as much cutscene as there was at the end of ME3 EC. I do not like the fact that it took that much effort to explain their vision, but there it is, finally complete.
Does the 360 version have the Koolaid? Because I didn't download that yet, just the PC version.
#392
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:40
Jarcander wrote...
Looks like about half the people will forgive them. I would say they mark this DLC as worthy investment.
People who do not forgive:
a) didn't get their particular vision deliveredlike to complain
c) are stubborn
d) all of above!
I'd say yes, it is good that they sorted out the worst of plotholes. I don't think I have ever seen as much cutscene as there was at the end of ME3 EC. I do not like the fact that it took that much effort to explain their vision, but there it is, finally complete.
*points at the door* Thats where the real world is, go out, speak to people, you will see that them agreeing or Not agreeing with you on things are not soley based on the 4 choices you wrote.
Modifié par SteelRayne_swe, 26 juin 2012 - 09:42 .
#393
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:41
malakim2099 wrote...
Does the 360 version have the Koolaid? Because I didn't download that yet, just the PC version.
I don't own a console. What's Koolaid? You aren't refering to that annoying yo-dawg star kid?
#394
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:42
Uwe211 wrote...
YES!!!!...but I have only ONE BIG LAST QUESTION: What happened with Shepard??? This "One-Breathe-Scene" is confusing me...have they found him on the citadel??? The other things were very good, but at last we do not know what happened with Shepard O.o
well he's alive but now he's stuck on the citadel that was badly damaged and appears to have lost power so odds are he's going to run out of air/bleed to death soon. Gotta figure the normandy was on "eden planet" for at least a few days for repairs. Still a big question there but destroy was better then the original (not saying much) still a cop out though especially on those slides. Isn't there a youtube video where some fan took still slides and made a MUCH better ending then we got?
#395
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:42
#396
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:43
SteelRayne_swe wrote...
*points at the door* Thats where the real world is, go out, speak to people, you will see that them agreeing or Not agreeing with you on things are based on the 4 choices you wrote.
Excuse me for not being a GOD or a supercomputer. I thought about that post for only a minute. In my eyes, it was reasonably punny summary of the general mood in this thread.
#397
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:43
#398
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:44
Synthesis is so over-the-top positive it's a parody of the ;'happy ending" concept
Destroy, especially Destroy+ is the red-headed stepchild. After all they did for Synthesis they couldn't even put Shep and crew in teh same picture? I genocided a race for this?
Refuse ending: Nice idea, execution is pretty much an FU to people who didn't like RGB "You take our choices or else!"
Control is the only halfway decently done outcome, kind of how I'd imagine it beiing my mind
So, no not enough to forgive. Not near enough
#399
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:48
#400
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:53
The process though does in no way redeem the company for me:
- release of basically an unfinished product
- bad PR
- multiple fingers to the fans
I'll keep my suspicions raised as well with future releases and just read fan reviews as I stated earlier.





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